What exactly do we need in a new arena that couldn't be added to the Moda Center

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riverman said:
I'd think Moda might be a contributor seeing as they're getting all the attention anyway
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That's not really how it works. They pay the team / arena owner to have their name on the building. A jersey patch sponsor doesnt pay Nike to make the uniforms their name is on.
 
even if you remodel the RG, the area around it needs a TON of thought and work. that is going to be expensive.

I don't think a winning outcome for the city or the new ownership group is just updating the RG and that's it. I think the city has enough skin in the game to where it makes sense to make the area around an updated or rebuilt RG attractive to year-round traffic vs. just gameday.
 
I’ve always thought that maybe fold out tables for each seat would be nice. Maybe they could somehow supply each person with a small packets of wipes (for hand/tables.) Then put a small garbage can between each seat that you are responsible for. So you would need to empty it.
 
Samuel said:
even if you remodel the RG, the area around it needs a TON of thought and work. that is going to be expensive.

I don't think a winning outcome for the city or the new ownership group is just updating the RG and that's it. I think the city has enough skin in the game to where it makes sense to make the area around an updated or rebuilt RG attractive to year-round traffic vs. just gameday.
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Developing the area around the Moda is going to be far cheaper than building a new arena and developing the area around it.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Developing the area around the Moda is going to be far cheaper than building a new arena and developing the area around it.
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i'm not arguing for a new arena. I'm saying updating the rose garden and redeveloping the area around the rose garden is not going to be cheap and will require taxpayer participation.

(and it might be cheaper, but it will still be very expensive and take years of planning; 'far cheaper'--disagree with you there.)
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Seems like we have enough skyboxes. Not sure if they're sold out but it always looks like there are empty ones during the games.
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It's because they are absolutely way over priced. We have paid for one. Just the bare minimum is 25K. It was the Lakers but wow. There were empty suites on both sides of us. It just doesn't make sense? Drop the price and fill the boxes.
 
kjironman1 said:
It's because they are absolutely way over priced. We have paid for one. Just the bare minimum is 25K. It was the Lakers but wow. There were empty suites on both sides of us. It just doesn't make sense? Drop the price and fill the boxes.
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And you didn't invite me? Really?!?

I am so hurt right now.
 
This is what I would do with the Rose Quarter.

Sell the MC to Spirit Mountain and allow them to remodel it into a casino. I've said this before, a casino in that area would help our convention center get conventions, and it would bring life to the area 365 24/7.

Tear down the Blazers office and the Rehab place. Having a casino and the Moda as anchors, you could build a nice hotel there and add more restaurants.

Cover and connect the Moda and MC Casino/hotel with a Las Vegas Fremont Street-style LCD roof. Rain sucks, and you could show Blazer highlights on game nights, band videos during concerts, and ads.

Bring the Max closer and up to the same level as the Rose Quarter, no more walking under a pee-stained overpass to catch Max.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Stren is still here.
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Nah, he has faded away into the same shadow realm that previously housed Maris and Jlprk.

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Maybe they could do a restaurant/Eatery area on the top floor with a glass floor looking down on the court?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Bring the Max closer and up to the same level as the Rose Quarter, no more walking under a pee-stained overpass to catch Max.
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There are two Max stations already very close to the Rose Quarter. There is one on Interstate and another on Multnomah. A very very short 2-3 minute walk.

I love your other ideas!
 
julius said:
The Moda doesn't need to be gutted ffs. key arena wasn't significantly better than Memorial Coliseum, let's not act like the Moda is a dump.
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Silver seems to think so.

Moda is a concrete bunker. Remodeling the surface is just putting lipstick on a pig.

Silver calling for a new arena is a bit extreme and probably just a tactic to get Moda a major overhaul
 
BBert said:
Sly's gambling addiction aside, is there a reason they can't just tear down the old MC and redevelop the whole area around the MODA?
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And what would that look like? What would you want to see and do in that area? I gave it a shot. Let's see what you can come up with.

This is what I'm getting at, I see lots of we need a new arena, we need to redevelop the Rose Quarter, but what the hell does that mean?
 
Overhaul the suites, sears, concession stands, restaurants, lighting, bar, concourse, scoreboard, roof
 
We went to a Kings game last year and there were a lot of people outside the arena at restaurants and bars that were surrounding the arena. Having several food carts or even changeable stalls with different vendors would draw people and follow a Portland style. Having it under some kind of cover would be nice. Maybe have some pop a shot machines outside along with other activities would be cool.
 
BBert said:
Sly's gambling addiction aside, is there a reason they can't just tear down the old MC and redevelop the whole area around the MODA?
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The last time tearing down the MC was seriously discussed, the Portland Bluehairs who still hold a lot of political sway in the city nixed it because it's "A COOL OLD BUILDING" and Portland NEVER throws anything away that white people cherish. Yes, it's architecturally neat, but that land is so much more valuable in the overall development of the area than the aesthetics of it.

A large casino in downtown Portland on the waterfront is a bit much, but cities like Pittsburgh have done it and they helped revitalize areas that had been depressed for decades. I don't think the Oregon Lottery would let it happen, though. Remember when The Spirit Mountain tribe offered to buy the old Greyhound Raceway track and for the trouble, would have GIVEN the city of Portland enough to build a multi-purpose Baseball/Football Stadium? They city and state both said no.
 
chris_in_pdx said:
The last time tearing down the MC was seriously discussed, the Portland Bluehairs who still hold a lot of political sway in the city nixed it because it's "A COOL OLD BUILDING" and Portland NEVER throws anything away that white people cherish. Yes, it's architecturally neat, but that land is so much more valuable in the overall development of the area than the aesthetics of it.

A large casino in downtown Portland on the waterfront is a bit much, but cities like Pittsburgh have done it and they helped revitalize areas that had been depressed for decades. I don't think the Oregon Lottery would let it happen, though. Remember when The Spirit Mountain tribe offered to buy the old Greyhound Raceway track and for the trouble, would have GIVEN the city of Portland enough to build a multi-purpose Baseball/Football Stadium? They city and state both said no.
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Go to the new convention center hotel at night during a big convention, and there are tour buses lined up to take those tourists to Ilani. The City of Portland needs that tourism and money to remain in the city. We build a really nice convention center, have an amazing airport to get them, but we're not getting any trickle down because there really isn't much to do around the convention center/Rose quarter.

Portland has the biggest voice in Salem. Our last Governor elected outside of Portland was Kitzhaber. If Portland demands it, the Oregon Lottery will come around.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Silver seems to think so.

Moda is a concrete bunker. Remodeling the surface is just putting lipstick on a pig.

Silver calling for a new arena is a bit extreme and probably just a tactic to get Moda a major overhaul
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He didn't call for a new arena or that it needed to be gutted
 
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