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tykendo

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Let's say Pop / Ownership wanted to see what's out there. Would you trade Sharpe / Ant and the # 3 ? The Odd Couple ( Chris Broussard, Rob Parker) on Fox Sports Radio, were tossing it around yesterday.
 
I'd rate our assets as Sharpe - #3 - Dame - Ant

No I wouldn't trade Sharpe and #3, but yes that is tempting. Yes I would trade #3 and Ant (or #3 and Dame). Then you can pair Sharpe and Wemby. Just getting Wemby and one of Dame/Ant isn't enough. Would I do #3 Dame and Ant for Wemby? I probably reluctantly would, but I understand why many fans wouldn't.

I don't think the Spurs do Wemby for Sharpe and #3 from their end. One of those trades that just has too much risk to both teams so we won't see it.
 
tykendo said:
Let's say Pop / Ownership wanted to see what's out there. Would you trade Sharpe / Ant and the # 3 ? The Odd Couple ( Chris Broussard, Rob Parker) on Fox Sports Radio, were tossing it around yesterday.
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Ant/3/Nurk/grant/every pick ever created for the blazers ever in the history of the land. It's a stupid fucking trade that'd never happen (nor does it probably work) but imagine Dame/Sharpe/Wemby. Man that'd be fun. It'll never happen but that was fun for 20 seconds.
 
if the Spurs actually do that, which they absolutely won't, they'd get much better offers than what Portland can make
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I'd rate our assets as Sharpe - #3 - Dame - Ant

No I wouldn't trade Sharpe and #3, but yes that is tempting. Yes I would trade #3 and Ant (or #3 and Dame). Then you can pair Sharpe and Wemby. Just getting Wemby isn't enough.

I don't think the Spurs do Wemby for Sharpe and #3 from their end. One of those trades that just has too much risk to both teams so we won't see it.
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That's why i included Ant. They traded away their PG. Dame and Wemby would be awesome together for at least 5 years. After that, you have plenty of time to add others.
 
wizenheimer said:
if the Spurs actually do that, which they absolutely won't, they'd get much better offers than what Portland can make
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Like what. Remember, the Spurs are in a youth movement ( Johnson, Vassell, Sochan).
 
Plus, you didn't give them #3. They sure as hell ain't doing that, c'mon man.
 
wizenheimer said:
if the Spurs actually do that, which they absolutely won't, they'd get much better offers than what Portland can make
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I don't know that they will, thats why we don't see the #1 pick traded.

I guess we saw #1 traded for Kevin Love, but it was a #1 pick about as valuable as this years #5. It wasn't a historic #1 prospect as this season. Also the team with the #1 pick had LeBron James agree to sign.

I just don't see many teams able to give the Spurs enough for it to still make sense for their team. If the Spurs had veterans to win now it might open up possibilities. But even Giannis for Wemby doesn't make sense from the Spurs end.

Then if you don't look at contending teams; how is a team flipping enough young assets to the Spurs going to make sense over them just keeping they super amazing young asset of Wemby?

If the Spurs were really high on one of Scoot/Miller then thats about the only trade that would make sense, dropping a few spots. I don't see this at all as plausible, but we've seen similar trades with those pick slots through the years such as Webber(Penny) or Fultz(Tatum).
 
If they did, they'd have a youthful team with Johnson , Sochan, Vassell, Sharpe, Ant, Collins , and the #3 pick ( Miller, Scoot, Amen). That's pretty cool
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I don't know that they will, thats why we don't see the #1 pick traded.

I guess we saw #1 traded for Kevin Love, but it was a #1 pick about as valuable as this years #5. It wasn't a historic #1 prospect as this season. Also the team with the #1 pick had LeBron James agree to sign.

I just don't see many teams able to give the Spurs enough for it to still make sense for their team. If the Spurs had veterans to win now it might open up possibilities. But even Giannis for Wemby doesn't make sense from the Spurs end.

Then if you don't look at contending teams; how is a team flipping enough young assets to the Spurs going to make sense over them just keeping they super amazing young asset of Wemby?

If the Spurs were really high on one of Scoot/Miller then thats about the only trade that would make sense, dropping a few spots. I don't see this at all as plausible, but we've seen similar trades with those pick slots through the years such as Webber(Penny) or Fultz(Tatum).
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Exactly. It made me think about it being plausible. Because of their youth, you add Sharpe, Ant, and the #3 which may end up being Scoot. That's a nice return. And a potential juggarnaut in the making.
 
tykendo said:
If they did, they'd have a youthful team with Johnson , Sochan, Vassell, Sharpe, Ant, Collins , and the #3 pick ( Miller, Scoot, Amen). That's pretty cool
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Blazers trading Sharpe, Ant, #3 for Wemby and him losing his career to injuries would be about the most Blazers thing ever.
 
Meanwhile the Blazers get another potential generational talent, and the potential to add Zach Levine with those future picks unlocked.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Blazers trading Sharpe, Ant, #3 for Wemby and him losing his career to injuries would be about the most Blazers thing ever.
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Sure, but any of these picks could have that happen. Hey i hope Sharpe IS Kobe too.
 
tykendo said:
Like what. Remember, the Spurs are in a youth movement ( Johnson, Vassell, Sochan).
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have you taken a look at the future draft pick collections of OKC and Utah?

look at OKC:

2023 second round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 2023 2nd round pick (#50) to Oklahoma City (via Miami to Dallas; via Memphis' swap of Miami for Houston; via Memphis to Boston; via Boston to Oklahoma City) [Dallas-Miami, 7/7/2017; Dallas-Memphis, 7/8/2019; Houston-Memphis, 2/6/2020; Boston-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2023]

2023 second round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 2023 2nd round pick (#37) to Oklahoma City (via New Orleans) [New Orleans-Washington, 2/7/2019; Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020]

2024 first round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2024 2nd round pick and 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2024 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2024 first round draft pick from Utah
Utah's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-10 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026 (if Utah has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2026, then Utah's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished) [Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 1/4/2022]

2024 second round draft pick from Charlotte or Minnesota (less favorable)
Portland will receive the more favorable of Charlotte's 2024 2nd round pick and Minnesota's 2024 2nd round pick and Oklahoma City will receive the less favorable of the two (via Charlotte to New Orleans to Oklahoma City; via Minnesota to Oklahoma City to Denver to Portland) [Charlotte-New Orleans, 11/19/2020; Minnesota-New York-Oklahoma City, 11/20/2020; Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; Denver-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022; Denver-Portland, 7/6/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Houston or L.A. Clippers (swap, Oklahoma City outgoing to Houston, L.A. Clippers or Brooklyn)
Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2025 1st round pick for Houston's 2025 1st round pick protected for selections 1-10 or the L.A. Clippers' 2025 1st round pick; Houston then has the right to swap its pick or the Oklahoma City pick for Brooklyn's 2025 1st round pick; if the Houston pick falls within its protected range, then Houston's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished and Houston will instead receive the more favorable of its pick and the Brooklyn pick and Brooklyn will receive the less favorable of the two [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021]

2025 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-14 in 2025 and unprotected in 2026 (via L.A. Clippers) [L.A. Clippers-Miami, 7/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Miami-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Philadelphia
Philadelphia's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-6 in 2025, 1-4 in 2026 and 1-4 in 2027; if Philadelphia has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2027, then Philadelphia will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Philadelphia-Oklahoma City, 12/8/2020]

2025 second round draft pick from Atlanta
Atlanta's 2025 2nd round pick to Portland protected for selections 41-60 or to Oklahoma City protected for selections 31-40 (Atlanta's obligation to Portland or Oklahoma City will thereafter be extinguished) [Atlanta-Oklahoma City, 11/24/2020; Atlanta-Oklahoma City, 9/27/2022 (partial removal of protection); Atlanta-Detroit-Golden State-Portland, 2/9/2023]

2025 second round draft pick from Boston or Memphis (more favorable)
Oklahoma City will receive the more favorable of Boston's 2025 2nd round pick and Memphis' 2025 2nd round pick and Orlando will receive the less favorable of the two (via Memphis to Boston to Orlando) [Boston-Memphis-Portland, 11/20/2020; Boston-Orlando, 3/25/2021; Boston-Oklahoma City, 6/18/2021]

2025 second round draft pick from Philadelphia
Philadelphia's 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021]

2026 first round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2026 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2026 second round draft pick from Dallas or Philadelphia (most favorable of these and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City outgoing to Miami or Houston)
Oklahoma City will receive the most favorable of its 2026 2nd round pick, Dallas' 2026 2nd round pick and Philadelphia's 2026 2nd round pick and Houston will receive the second most favorable and Miami will receive the least favorable of the three (via Oklahoma City) [Dallas-Detroit-Oklahoma City, 11/27/2020; New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021; Miami-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2022; Houston-Oklahoma City, 9/30/2022]

2027 first round draft pick from Denver
At least two years after Denver conveys a 1st round pick to Orlando, Denver's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-5 in 2027, 1-5 in 2028 and 1-5 in 2029; if Denver has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2029, then Denver will instead convey its 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Denver-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

2027 second round draft picks from Houston, Indiana and/or Miami (three most favorable of these and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City outgoing to San Antonio)
Oklahoma City will receive the three most favorable of its 2027 2nd round pick, Houston's 2027 2nd round pick, Indiana's 2027 2nd round pick and Miami's 2027 2nd round pick and San Antonio will receive the least favorable of the four (via Houston to Detroit to Oklahoma City; via Utah to San Antonio) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Detroit-Oklahoma City, 3/13/2021; Indiana-Oklahoma City, 11/25/2020; Miami-Oklahoma City, 3/17/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Portland-San Antonio-Utah, 2/9/2022]

2028 second round draft pick from Utah
Utah's 2028 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 1/4/2022]

2029 second round draft pick from Atlanta
Atlanta's 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Atlanta-Oklahoma City, 9/27/2022]

2029 second round draft pick from Boston
Boston's 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Boston-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2023]

2029 second round draft pick from Phoenix
Phoenix's 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Oklahoma City-Phoenix, 2/9/2023]

and this doesn't include this year's 12th pick

and OKC certainly has the roster to leverage a trade with a team in a "youth movement"
 
wizenheimer said:
if the Spurs actually do that, which they absolutely won't, they'd get much better offers than what Portland can make
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If they did that then there is serious red flags on Wemby. Spurs rarely make big mistakes
 
tykendo said:
Meanwhile the Blazers get another potential generational talent, and the potential to add Zach Levine with those future picks unlocked.
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God damn what a bummer everything would be if we got lavine. Just yuck.
 
Cugel said:
I think it's time to let it go.
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Like picking another one & doner . Time to add quality game changers who are ready now. Not still needing pacifiers and their diapers to be changed.
 
Strenuus said:
Because he's not a game changer so he'd just be a mediocrity cog.

Playing and making a difference are not the same thing, unfortunately.
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He can be so good, but i get that. I was thinking about DeRozan as well. He can play the 2 G like he did in Toronto. Nurk, Wemby, Grant, DeRozan, and Dame. Probably better. Lotz of buzz coming out of Chicago.
 
I would trade any combination of assets including Dame for Wemby and I bet Spurs would say no
 
To quote my late dad....
"If my aunt would have had a mustache, she'd have been my uncle."

They are not trading Wemby.
 
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