What is the alternative to Stand Your Ground?

[MarAzul]

The stand your ground laws have been identified in the paper as a sign of hate groups by a person writing to the editor of my local paper.

But what is a person to do instead? Run? Run forever?

Some where long ago, I read, they will always be someone bigger and stronger than you! That is why God invented the .38.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I dunno - common sense maybe? Think with the big head instead of the little one? Don't bring a gun to a popcorn fight?

 

[BrianFromWA]

or you could live in London, where a guy can walk around machete-ing people to death and the cops can't do a thing about it (because even they don't carry guns).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby

 

[DaLincolnJones]

or you could live in London, where a guy can walk around machete-ing people to death and the cops can't do a thing about it (because even they don't carry guns).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby

yeah I read that a while back...very sad

 

[donkiez]

or you could live in London, where a guy can walk around machete-ing people to death and the cops can't do a thing about it (because even they don't carry guns).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby

Or you could live in Russia and get beat up, taken hostage, fed viagra, and raped for 3 days by the woman you were trying to rob.

I would totally rob that chick by the way.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...elt-owner-kept-sex-slave-days-fed-Viagra.html

 

[PapaG]

Lose Your Life

 

[riverman]

Lose Your Life

Or stand on their ground

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Deportation.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think you should be able to defend yourself, 100%, but I also think you have a responsibility to remove yourself from the equation if it's an option.

I think the shooter in the movie theater recently is a perfect example. The guy he shot wasn't armed (unless you count popcorn) and there were no punches thrown. This was not a case where you should be able to claim stand your ground. He got into an argument with the guy, and if he had an opportunity to just leave, that should have been his play. If you carry, and you are out in public, you should first try to walk away. If the person will not allow that option, that's when you can defend yourself, or your family.

 

[julius]

or you could live in London, where a guy can walk around machete-ing people to death and the cops can't do a thing about it (because even they don't carry guns).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby

Or you could live in London where the murder rate is at a 42 year low, where a total (yes, TOTAL) of 99 people were killed in London. Gun murders were 14. Not per day, for the whole year.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/murder-rate-hits-42yearlow-in-london-8462974.html

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jul/14/crime-statistics-england-wales

http://police.city.london.on.ca/d.aspx?s=/About_Us/CrimeStatistics.htm

just sayin'...

 

[julius]

I think you should be able to defend yourself, 100%, but I also think you have a responsibility to remove yourself from the equation if it's an option.

I think the shooter in the movie theater recently is a perfect example. The guy he shot wasn't armed (unless you count popcorn) and there were no punches thrown. This was not a case where you should be able to claim stand your ground. He got into an argument with the guy, and if he had an opportunity to just leave, that should have been his play. If you carry, and you are out in public, you should first try to walk away. If the person will not allow that option, that's when you can defend yourself, or your family.

pretty much this.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Or you could live in London where the murder rate is at a 42 year low, where a total (yes, TOTAL) of 99 people were killed in London. Gun murders were 14. Not per day, for the whole year.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/murder-rate-hits-42yearlow-in-london-8462974.html

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jul/14/crime-statistics-england-wales

http://police.city.london.on.ca/d.aspx?s=/About_Us/CrimeStatistics.htm

just sayin'...

If everyone carried guns those 99 murders could have been prevented.

 

[julius]

If everyone carried guns those 99 murders could have been prevented.

what if they carried 99 luftballons?

 

[Denny Crane]

Stand your ground, but only if the other guy is armed. You can shoot a guy wielding a knife. Fists? Run away.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I guess I don't quite see the furor in this. I mean, look at the scrutiny Zimmerman had in a pretty clear self-defense (not "SYG") case, and I have a hard time thinking that this guy will get off by claiming it. So what if the defense tries it?

Now, if 6 months from now he goes free b/c of it, I'll happily join the debate. But he might as well be claiming his right to free speech right now. B/c I think it applies just as much.

 

[MarAzul]

Stand your ground, but only if the other guy is armed. You can shoot a guy wielding a knife. Fists? Run away.

Can't run, bad Knee from previous action. Besides leaving the grand kids to their fate just doesn't set right. Stand seems to be the only acceptable option no matter what the MF brings.

 

[Denny Crane]

Can't run, bad Knee from previous action. Besides leaving the grand kid to their fate just doesn't set right. Stand seems to be the only acceptable option no matter what the MF brings.

Take your beating like a man and press charges.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I swear, if a 7 yr old approaches me . . . I'm capping her.

Stand Your Ground!

 

[MarAzul]

Take your beating like a man and press charges.

I don;t mind at all if that is your choice, might even pay to watch. However, it would be very stupid to expect the majority to take the same alternative.

 

[Denny Crane]

I don;t mind at all if that is your choice, might even pay to watch. However, it would be very stupid to expect the majority to take the same alternative.

I wouldn't let things escalate to violence. I wouldn't stalk someone even if I thought they were a burglar. It just isn't worth it. Let the cops do their job.

You're the one who can't run away.

 

[MarAzul]

I wouldn't let things escalate to violence. I wouldn't stalk someone even if I thought they were a burglar. It just isn't worth it. Let the cops do their job.

You're the one who can't run away.

The cops are not tasked to protect you, me, or anyone we might feel we need to protect. Check it out, it just isn't in their mission statement not to mention they maybe a day away. In the end a man has only himself to rely on for sure.

 

[Denny Crane]

The cops are not tasked to protect you, me, or anyone we might feel we need to protect. Check it out, it just isn't in their mission statement not to mention they maybe a day away. In the end a man has only himself to rely on for sure.

Who said it was?

It is their job to arrest people who commit battery.

 

[MarAzul]

Who said it was?

It is their job to arrest people who commit battery.

Ha! Now that would be worth watching you explain why you didn't stop that MF molesting your wife. Don't worry honey, I will call the cops and testify! He will be sorry!

 

[Denny Crane]

Ha! Now that would be worth watching you explain why you didn't stop that MF molesting your wife. Don't worry honey, I will call the cops and testify! He will be sorry!

Yeah, I'd fight to protect my wife, so what? That's not stand your ground.

 

[riverman]

I swear, if a 7 yr old approaches me . . . I'm capping her.

Stand Your Ground!

I don't know if this was meant to be humorous, but it's pretty fuckin' far from funny. I'm a war vet and unless you've really experienced any of this shit in reality, don't play games with it my friend.

 

[MarAzul]

Yeah, I'd fight to protect my wife, so what? That's not stand your ground.

And the MF does your ass in a heart beat and then proceeds to the main menu. Don't worry honey, I will call the cops and testify! Good luck with that plan.

 

[Denny Crane]

And the MF does your ass in a heart beat and then proceeds to the main menu. Don't worry honey, I will call the cops and testify! Good luck with that plan.

It's still not stand your ground.

 

[MarAzul]

Yeah, I'd fight to protect my wife, so what? That's not stand your ground.

Actually I prefer a different approach, Have the wife pack and I will stand the ground and see what the fella's got. She doesn't have to waste anybody before you know what's what.

 

[Denny Crane]

Actually I prefer a different approach, Have the wife pack and I will stand the ground and see what the fella's got. She doesn't have to waste anybody before you know what's what.

No stand your ground law is needed in the scenarios you are fabricating.

 

[MarAzul]

No stand your ground law is needed in the scenarios you are fabricating.

It is not running from immediate threat of attack so what do you think it is?