What is the big move gonna be and when is it gonna happen?

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Kemba had a player option for next year so his buyout might be close to his salary this year. Love is guaranteed a lot more and will get less in his new contract. Doubt Cleveland goes this route.
 
Cugel said:
I hate to say it but, IMHO, Dame is gone after the olympics. He clearly said he wants to play with a really athletic big. He flat out said it in a press conference. Ain't seeing that in portland. I don't blame Lillard for this at all. I will always be a big Dame fan. Neil made the moves he wanted to and it really was a big fuck you to everyone.
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given what I have seen "so far" I am fine with a rebuild, we will get a lot for Dame and I am tired of the treadmill first rd exit and watching Neil doing the same old dumpster dive shit every summer - come on surprise me Neil!
 
Nothing we've done has changed my mind about Neil gearing up to move CJ, Simons and DJJ. Especially with the acquisition of multiple shooting guards.
 
Cugel said:
I hate to say it but, IMHO, Dame is gone after the olympics. He clearly said he wants to play with a really athletic big. He flat out said it in a press conference. Ain't seeing that in portland. I don't blame Lillard for this at all. I will always be a big Dame fan. Neil made the moves he wanted to and it really was a big fuck you to everyone.
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He ain't playing second fiddle to anyone. He's an Alpha. So stop looking for him to go somewhere else, where he will be the second option.
 
Blazinaway said:
given what I have seen "so far" I am fine with a rebuild, we will get a lot for Dame and I am tired of the treadmill first rd exit and watching Neil doing the same old dumpster dive shit every summer - come on surprise me Neil!
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As long as Neil is NOT the architect of that rebuild!
 
Dame's a prideful man. He wasn't happy sitting out the end of that game vs. Spain.
 
I say, if I have to put money on this, I would put it on "Nothing else is going to happen". It would be the safe bet. Every year Olshey brings noname players, that never change nothing. Hezonia was our next Drazen, Bazemore was best 3nD in the league... After that we always wait for big splash and we got Tolliver and Blevins.
I think that Stotts was Blazers main problem, to be exact, he let CJ and Dame do whatever they wanted, so I can wait and see, what Billups can do with them.
I don't see any CJ trade, that can put us level up strait away. I believe, that Olshey thinks, CJ can replace Dames shooting in Portland and therefore Dame's trade makes much more sense.
 
we might not like it, but cj mccollum value is not close to ben simmons value and i wouldnt be surprised at all if daryl morey doesnt want cj mccollum

its difficult that cj mccollum can land us siakam too, but tobias harris is a real possibility i would think in terms of value, theyre close in value compared to simmons & siakam
 
tykendo said:
He ain't playing second fiddle to anyone. He's an Alpha. So stop looking for him to go somewhere else, where he will be the second option.
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If Dame is playing with Embiid... Joel is not the alpha and he is not the first option... he might get option 1B status but more likely solidly option 2.

That being said fuck that whole situation because I want Dame here.
 
Looks like the answer to the original question is "nothing" and "never".

And no, don't tell me to be patient. Going into the season with this unbalanced roster is looney. Waiting till the trade deadline - even if a move was forthcoming - means another wasted season.
 
I think it will be Tobias Harris, and the signing of Oubre & Milsap. All and all, I think that's pretty good as far as additions go. And Harris is better than many in here think.
 
tykendo said:
I think it will be Tobias Harris, and the signing of Oubre & Milsap. All and all, I think that's pretty good as far as additions go. And Harris is better than many in here think.
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What are you thinking - Milsap for the minimum and Oubre for the TMLE? From what I have read, Oubre wants a lot more than that, but it is possible he could get squeezed into a cheap deal. (either 1 year or more with a PO)

I would be fine with Harris as long as they would take CJ straight up. If they ask for young players/draft picks as sweetener, IMHO that is too much.
 
Strenuus said:
My only concern is now Dame is getting doubled more. If we don't have 2 capable 3 point shooters then Dame is gonna have to play hero ball.

For all the defense in the world, I dont want that. Not worth it. Hard pass and no one can convince me otherwise.
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People also can cut to the hoop you know, and Simmons is elite at that.
 
AmirIcon said:
The hysteria is the stuff you would find on the Fox News Facebook page about cancel culture. No way is Olshey finished. Not at all.
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I was with you until you added Politics. One of the things I love about this board is how rare that is. I liked a ton of what you've said, but I beg of you please don't turn this into a dumpster fire. Thanks.
 
Mr. Robot said:
we might not like it, but cj mccollum value is not close to ben simmons value and i wouldnt be surprised at all if daryl morey doesnt want cj mccollum

its difficult that cj mccollum can land us siakam too, but tobias harris is a real possibility i would think in terms of value, theyre close in value compared to simmons & siakam
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Perhaps a three-way.
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illmatic99 said:
There was at least some hope last week that we'd do SOMETHING.

it seems clear now that we won't do anything.

What a depressing offseason.
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I think Dame has to come back and put the Kybosh on Morey's Inhalant fueled dreams. When Dame comes back and is told the plan (Siakam or Simmons) he makes a statement and puts to bed the rumor and then the Toronto/Philadelphia options become available. Morey apparently doesn't want to deal directly with Toronto for some reason. I'm not giving Olshey unlimited time, I just think maybe the whole League is waiting for Dame to come back and speak.
 
1. Olshey cannot ignore Lillard's statements and what has been "leaked" on Lillard's behalf -- Lillard wants the chance to "compete" and doesn't believe the roster can do that. Lillard took crap for saying he only wanted to play in the bubble if the Blazers could at least compete for a playoff spot. He didn't back off that. He won't back off his current stance. He's not talking about guys improving like post-New Orleans debacle. It doesn't matter if Olshey thinks the roster isn't the problem. It's Lillard's team.
2. A big trade has to happen ... CJ. Maybe Nurkic, too. But it's a CJ problem. A tier below all star ... a number 3? on a team. A 2 depending on the 1. Ignore Lillard, and it will be too late ... maximum value goes away. Dame would be gone. Trading CJ is a forgone conclusion IMHO; Olshey has to get it done but is playing the game to get the best deal.
3. Tobias Harris? Not a problem child for Philly, so I expect him to stay. Simmons gets traded. Siakam chatter is pretty serious and goes back a little bit. Siakam has more of a chance to stay in Toronto. Their GM re-upped means he has the power and Siakam doesn't have leverage, but Getting Simmons would be a great get for Toronto.

I understand the pessimism and the criticism of Olshey. But the current situation is THE tipping point. I hope the trade is done within a couple weeks.
 
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