What it will take to get Stotts fired?

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
TBpup said:
Sadly, we will likely be having this conversation again next year after losing 4 in a row to end the season....or maybe get red hot and only lose 4 of the last 5......like the last 7 years in a row?

Portland..... where a .344 Playoff winning percentage gets you a lifetime contract?
Click to expand...

Are you upset it's got Dame a lifetime contract?
 
Tince said:
Are you upset it's got Dame a lifetime contract?
Click to expand...

  • It's not Dame's job to figure out how to attack a trap.....8 years running.
  • It's not Dame's call to actually devise a strategy to leave Steph Curry open in the opening game of a Playoff series.
  • It's not Dame's job to design an offense where you are continually last or next to last in assists year after year after year.

This list could go on and on....but please, shadow point the blame on Dame and see how that works out.
 
calvin natt said:
The PnR is a HUGE part of every NBA offense. So is 1 on 1 iso. Why does everyone love D’antoni? They just come down and jack threes? Is that offensive wizardry?
Click to expand...
Any coach can coach that stuff. It's super basic not saying the shouldn't run it or anything, just that they need to be able to adapt when it's not working.
 
TBpup said:
....and Stotts had some kid named Dame. Perhaps that helped a little.
Click to expand...
Maybe I’m wrong but I thiiiiink Nate coached LaMarcus and Brandon Roy? He won 50% of his games here. Stotts has won 55%. So Stotts made things “better”. But hey let’s bring in offensive genius Dantoni who will so insightfully tell the team to shoot threes every time down. I mean Dantoni has really been great on offense with such bad offensively players. And his teams win championships so let’s do it!
 
calvin natt said:
Maybe I’m wrong but I thiiiiink Nate coached LaMarcus and Brandon Roy? He won 50% of his games here. Stotts has won 55%. So Stotts made things “better”. But hey let’s bring in offensive genius Dantoni who will so insightfully tell the team to shoot threes every time down. I mean Dantoni has really been great on offense with such bad offensively players. And his teams win championships so let’s do it!
Click to expand...
Who the fuck said bring in D’Antoni? Where is this nonsense coming from? If you love Stotts and his coaching style then just say so - no need to put words in people’s mouths. There is a fairly large faction of fans both on this board and outside this board that want to see change, and one of the more obvious things a team can do to shake things up is to change the coach. Stotts has had eight years to develop this team into a contender yet I see zero growth in the sophistication of his offensive or defensive sets. He’s running the same stuff now that he did in season 1. If you love mediocrity and first round exits by all means keep Stotts around. The rest of us want to see a change in the style of basketball this team plays - akin to what Broussard mentioned about additional ball and player movement (not just a weave with a few handoffs). I don’t see why so many folks are so opposed to making a coaching change. It’s not as if we’re talking about a top tier coach that has led this team to the promised land, right?
 
Last edited:
brooklynballer said:
Who the fuck said bring in D’Antoni? Where is this nonsense coming from? If you love Stotts and his coaching style then just say so - no need to put words in people’s mouths. There is a fairly large faction of fans both on this board and outside this board that want to see change, and one of the more obvious things a team can do to shake things up is to change the coach. Stotts has had eight years to develop this team into a contender yet I see zero growth in the sophistication of his offensive or defensive sets. He’s running the same stuff now that he did in season 1. If you love mediocrity and first round exits by all means keep Stotts around. The rest of us want to see a change in the style of basketball this team plays - akin to what Broussard mentioned about additional ball and player movement (not just a weave with a few handoffs). I don’t see why so many folks are so opposed to making a coaching change. It’s not as if we’re talking about a top tier coach that has led this team to the promised land, right?
Click to expand...

This!
 
It's weird. I have met people who are fans of individual players rather than teams, but I don't recall ever before meeting people who were fans of a coach first and foremost. Sorry, but I find that really strange.
 
Buffalo Custard said:
It's weird. I have met people who are fans of individual players rather than teams, but I don't recall ever before meeting people who were fans of a coach first and foremost. Sorry, but I find that really strange.
Click to expand...
I dont think its about people being a fan of the coach before a team. I think some people just believe coaches get blamed for too much, and get too much credit too.
 
brooklynballer said:
Who the fuck said bring in D’Antoni? Where is this nonsense coming from? If you love Stotts and his coaching style then just say so - no need to put words in people’s mouths. There is a fairly large faction of fans both on this board and outside this board that want to see change, and one of the more obvious things a team can do to shake things up is to change the coach. Stotts has had eight years to develop this team into a contender yet I see zero growth in the sophistication of his offensive or defensive sets. He’s running the same stuff now that he did in season 1. If you love mediocrity and first round exits by all means keep Stotts around. The rest of us want to see a change in the style of basketball this team plays - akin to what Broussard mentioned about additional ball and player movement (not just a weave with a few handoffs). I don’t see why so many folks are so opposed to making a coaching change. It’s not as if we’re talking about a top tier coach that has led this team to the promised land, right?
Click to expand...
I’ve said repeatedly I don’t care if they fire Stotts so...
 
calvin natt said:
Maybe I’m wrong but I thiiiiink Nate coached LaMarcus and Brandon Roy? He won 50% of his games here. Stotts has won 55%. So Stotts made things “better”. But hey let’s bring in offensive genius Dantoni who will so insightfully tell the team to shoot threes every time down. I mean Dantoni has really been great on offense with such bad offensively players. And his teams win championships so let’s do it!
Click to expand...

Regardless of whether I like Dantoni's overall game plan, he's consistently a contender. His Rockets team was a very good regular season defensive team and THE BEST defensive team in the playoffs thus far.

Stotts wishes he could compare himself to Dantoni. That's just facts and records.
 
TBpup said:
  • It's not Dame's job to figure out how to attack a trap.....8 years running.
  • It's not Dame's call to actually devise a strategy to leave Steph Curry open in the opening game of a Playoff series.
  • It's not Dame's job to design an offense where you are continually last or next to last in assists year after year after year.
This list could go on and on....but please, shadow point the blame on Dame and see how that works out.
Click to expand...

The post I replied to cited playoff winning percentage as the critieria for not extended someone in the organization so I was simply asking if that criteria applied to anyone else.

Dame, whom I'm thrilled will be here much longer, also could have bullet points of areas where he's failed or has been subpar. To me, that is not criteria enough for him to not be extended. I'm glad that you don't think Dame's career playoff winning percentage is a criteria you feel is valuable to determine his worthiness of staying in Portland.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I dont think its about people being a fan of the coach before a team. I think some people just believe coaches get blamed for too much, and get too much credit too.
Click to expand...

Yes, this 100%! The coach should not get much credit for wins or losses. What's a head scratcher to me is there are so many people that think a coach has such a big impact on losses, but virtually no impact on wins. If that were the case, NBA teams would have no coaches because their value would only be negative.
 
Tince said:
Yes, this 100%! The coach should not get much credit for wins or losses. What's a head scratcher to me is there are so many people that think a coach has such a big impact on losses, but virtually no impact on wins. If that were the case, NBA teams would have no coaches because their value would only be negative.
Click to expand...
Pay attention. The post was referring to Terry fucking Stotts, not some random coach. The top tier coaches in this league do help their teams win more but Terry Stotts is not one of them. So, yes, he can have zero impact on the offense (because they play so much iso ball and PnR which any high school coach can teach), and be a net negative on defense because he doesn’t hold players accountable for effort on that end nor does he have a defensive system to game plan for something as simple as a trap after six consecutive postseasons of seeing it. The man is a moron plain and simple.
 
Interesting.

I haven't been here long and I have already seen multiple posts giving very specific arguments why the poster thinks Stotts is doing a poor job of managing the team. The counter argument seems to be that it just doesn't matter, that coaching is unimportant, etc.

It seems like you have 2 groups who aren't watching the same sport! It's like flat earth v sphere earth - there is literally no common ground for discussion.
 
Buffalo Custard said:
Interesting.

I haven't been here long and I have already seen multiple posts giving very specific arguments why the poster thinks Stotts is doing a poor job of managing the team. The counter argument seems to be that it just doesn't matter, that coaching is unimportant, etc.

It seems like you have 2 groups who aren't watching the same sport! It's like flat earth v sphere earth - there is literally no common ground for discussion.
Click to expand...

It doesn't matter whether the Earth is flat or round. The shape of a planet is overrated. It's the creatures who give the planet gravity, not the planet's shape. Stop blaming flat planets and just replace the creatures.

As a new poster, you now get to listen to fucking retards repeat this bullshit for 8 years.
 
jlprk said:
It doesn't matter whether the Earth is flat or round. The shape of a planet is overrated. It's the creatures who give the planet gravity, not the planet's shape. Stop blaming flat planets and just replace the creatures.

As a new poster, you now get to listen to fucking retards repeat this bullshit for 8 years.
Click to expand...

LOL! Well done sir!
 
brooklynballer said:
Pay attention. The post was referring to Terry fucking Stotts, not some random coach. The top tier coaches in this league do help their teams win more but Terry Stotts is not one of them. So, yes, he can have zero impact on the offense (because they play so much iso ball and PnR which any high school coach can teach), and be a net negative on defense because he doesn’t hold players accountable for effort on that end nor does he have a defensive system to game plan for something as simple as a trap after six consecutive postseasons of seeing it. The man is a moron plain and simple.
Click to expand...

Got it. The criteria is only used on the Blazers coach, not other coaches.
 
Appreciate your advice. If you're looking for someone to getting in a name calling battle, I'm not you're guy. I'm here to talk hoops with people who may or may not have differing points of view. No basketball disagreement will cause me to have a temper tantrum.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
brooklynballer said:
Get your head out of your ass and try to comprehend a post for once in your life.
Click to expand...
What's funny is he's agreeing with the post saying coaches get too much blame for losses and not enough credit for wins, but when me and @hoopsjock sung Stotts praises for what he did in game 1, he was downplaying it! Then he'll act like we never give Stotts enough credit.

Its very confusing.
 
Tince said:
Appreciate your advice. If you're looking for someone to getting in a name calling battle, I'm not you're guy. I'm here to talk hoops with people who may or may not have differing points of view. No basketball disagreement will cause me to have a temper tantrum.
Click to expand...
He didnt call you a name.
 
I dont think Sotts is one of the best coaches, but I dont think he's one of the worst either. He had that LMA team as a dark horse contender before Wes injury and that was a great accomplishment. The most important quality of a coach is that players buy in and I feel Stotts has always had that. If he loses buy in as Nate McMillian did he needs to go.

I think 95% of the Blazers failures the last 5 years are from the roster. That said 29 of 30 teams fail every year. The Blazers have had some successes even if I'd hope for more.

So I guess I sort of disagree with the question of this thread. My answer would be; it doesn't matter.

If we needed a more exact answer I'd probably say when Dame stops insisting on having Stotts as his coach.
 
To answer the question in the title.

"Hello this it Greg Popovich. I would like to speak to Neil Olshey.....

Hi Neil? Hey i was thinking i'd like to coach up there by my winery. Any chance you might be able to find me a job?"
 
kjironman1 said:
To answer the question in the title.

"Hello this it Greg Popovich. I would like to speak to Neil Olshey.....

Hi Neil? Hey i was thinking i'd like to coach up there by my winery. Any chance you might be able to find me a job?"
Click to expand...
Ummm okay, so in your world there’s only one coach in the world capable of replacing Terry Stotts? Also, interestingly it also highlights where you place Stotts in your hierarchy of elite coaches. Good to know where you stand. SMH.
 
When one of Jody Allen, Neil Olshey or Damian Lillard decide to send him into the sunset. Not holding my breath.
 
BonesJones said:
What's funny is he's agreeing with the post saying coaches get too much blame for losses and not enough credit for wins, but when me and @hoopsjock sung Stotts praises for what he did in game 1, he was downplaying it! Then he'll act like we never give Stotts enough credit.

Its very confusing.
Click to expand...

If I said I feel many on here vastly overrate coaching, then why would it be confusing if I thought prasing Stotts in Game 1 was not warrented? My logic holds true in both directions. I feel like you give Stotts too much credit for losses and I guess in Game 1, you gave him too much credit for the win. That seems pretty consistent with my narrative the coaching doesn't have that great of an impact.

Explain how that is confusing to you.
 
BonesJones said:
He didnt call you a name.
Click to expand...

I never said he did. Though in my opinion he was in violation of 3 of the forum rules, if you want to get technical. I do appreciate you coming to his aid, that is very kind of you.

What post are you referencing to anyway?
 
Last edited:
brooklynballer said:
Ummm okay, so in your world there’s only one coach in the world capable of replacing Terry Stotts? Also, interestingly it also highlights where you place Stotts in your hierarchy of elite coaches. Good to know where you stand. SMH.
Click to expand...
I see you don't like humor at all. I'll keep that in mind.
 
Tince said:
If the Milwaukee Bucks message board is any indication, Budenholzer will be fired before Game 3 and would be available for Portland to sign!

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1991373&start=1280

Not to mention people on the Heat board are up in arms about Spoelstra despite a 2-0 against the #1 seed.

Is there a good coach in the NBA?
Click to expand...
Greg Popovich apparently is the only one?
Brad Stevens has a few admirers and i guess Nick Nurse is the flavor of the month.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top