What now? Ownership, etc

[julius]

So if a new expansion team (or other team not OKC) pops up in Seattle - does anyone know what the NBA policy is on team history?
Would the 'new' Seattle team be able to acquire the rightful SuperSonics history/records/branding from OKC ownership??

Really sucks that all that great PNW history is stuck in CowTown OKC at the moment. . .

I believe that part of the deal was that the history/etc stayed in Seattle, much like the Browns situation. Maybe not as concrete as that, but similar.

 

[Rozay]

Refresh my memory. Were the Kings under brand new ownership? I do remember the Maloofs. Was the threat of the Kings moving directly connected to new ownership? I don't recall.

Maloofs literally had an agreement signed and handshook agreement to a Seattle group led by developer Chris Daniels and Steve Ballmer for at the time was a record price.

The Seattle group had no secrets they wouldn’t keep the team in Sacramento. They kept that 100% from the start.

Only thing left was for the NBA to ok it. Now according to you guys that would and should be a done deal right? The kings located in cow town little ol Sacramento, the Sonics get to return to a bigger more lucrative market in Seattle right? Simple enough right?

Not so fast, the NBA vetoed that shit on the basis of learning their lesson from the Sonics leaving debacle. This will be the same thing for Portland. Trust me

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

So if a new expansion team (or other team not OKC) pops up in Seattle - does anyone know what the NBA policy is on team history?
Would the 'new' Seattle team be able to acquire the rightful SuperSonics history/records/branding from OKC ownership??

Yes. That stayed in Seattle, although OKC took the Larry OBrien but probably will return

 

[BonesJones]

There would be tremendous blowback.

However, the Vulcans can poison the well.

How much fan support would be lost if the Blazers traded Lillard to the Lakers? Make the Blazers a 20 win team, what happens to attendance? All in the name to "make the franchise attractive to sell". Olshey's the kind of used car salesman GM that would orchestrate such a campaign. Don't tell me you can't see him going along with something like this and then rationalizing it afterwards as he is so good at doing?

The Owners would absolutely gain by having a high profile franchise in Las Vegas. What do they get from having a great locally supported team in the Northwest? Feel good points?

So clueless.

 

[BonesJones]

If a team ends up in Vegas, it'll be through expansions. It's likely that the league expands 7 to 10 years from now, and I don't understand why the NBA wouldn't wait for that and simply allow a team to move out of a great market (where they'd likely return an expansion team to)... makes no sense.

You'll get Vegas and Seattle, Memphis will move to the East, and you'll have 16 team conferences.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

So clueless.

I thought I was on ignore (as you stated yesterday, then announced that you put me back on it). I guess a mod deleted that whole exchange though because it was not a good look.

Ignore doesnt really work if you constantly have to turn it off and on for a poster. I should really charge you rent for the space I take up in your head.

 

[The Professional Fan]

There would be tremendous blowback.

However, the Vulcans can poison the well.

How much fan support would be lost if the Blazers traded Lillard to the Lakers? Make the Blazers a 20 win team, what happens to attendance? All in the name to "make the franchise attractive to sell". Olshey's the kind of used car salesman GM that would orchestrate such a campaign. Don't tell me you can't see him going along with something like this and then rationalizing it afterwards as he is so good at doing?

The Owners would absolutely gain by having a high profile franchise in Las Vegas. What do they get from having a great locally supported team in the Northwest? Feel good points?

Now, my friend, you're going tinfoil hat.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Now, my friend, you're going tinfoil hat.

I run simulations and determine all the possible outcomes so there are no surprises.

 

[The Professional Fan]

I run simulations and determine all the possible outcomes so there are no surprises.

haha...

 

[BonesJones]

I thought I was on ignore (as you stated yesterday, then announced that you put me back on it). I guess a mod deleted that whole exchange though because it was not a good look.

Ignore doesnt really work if you constantly have to turn it off and on for a poster. I should really charge you rent for the space I take up in your head.

Gotta see what this people are replying to since you've woven your crap so deeply into this thread.

 

[RonBrewer]

I think that the team will stay in Portland but if it is sold and relocated, I hope the name stays. Much like the Browns Legacy.

 

[BonesJones]

I thought I was on ignore (as you stated yesterday, then announced that you put me back on it). I guess a mod deleted that whole exchange though because it was not a good look.

Ignore doesnt really work if you constantly have to turn it off and on for a poster. I should really charge you rent for the space I take up in your head.

You don't take up space in my head. You take up space in this thread though.

 

[ripcityboy]

I think that the team will stay in Portland but if it is sold and relocated, I hope the name stays. Much like the Browns Legacy.

If we lose this franchise, we won't ever get a new one. So that would be kind of pointless.

 

[LayneStaley]

Then the PNW could have 2 cities with Uniforms, Championship Trophies, and no TEAM. Sweet.

 

[LayneStaley]

We aren’t losing the Blazers, mostly cause it would take the entire Region out of any interest in the NBA. They also wouldn’t give Seattle a team right after they took us away. It would be another slap in the face to the Northwest.

 

[santeesioux]

Oprah will save us.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Jacksonville Jaguars might split their home games between Jacksonville and London in a few years.

The Portland & Beijing Blazers sure has a nice ring to it.

 

[e_blazer]

Jacksonville Jaguars might split their home games between Jacksonville and London in a few years.

The Portland & Beijing Blazers sure has a nice ring to it.

Not only does it sound sweet, but we’d be guaranteed five All-Star Game starters every year.

 

[tester551]

Maloofs literally had an agreement signed and handshook agreement to a Seattle group led by developer Chris Daniels and Steve Ballmer for at the time was a record price.

The Seattle group had no secrets they wouldn’t keep the team in Sacramento. They kept that 100% from the start.

Only thing left was for the NBA to ok it. Now according to you guys that would and should be a done deal right? The kings located in cow town little ol Sacramento, the Sonics get to return to a bigger more lucrative market in Seattle right? Simple enough right?

Not so fast, the NBA vetoed that shit on the basis of learning their lesson from the Sonics leaving debacle. This will be the same thing for Portland. Trust me

Its because the local politicians in Sacramento did everything they could to keep the kings.

Im not sure Portland would havr that type of political leadership & support

 

[oldmangrouch]

The number/enthusiasm of fans in the arena will always be less important than TV ratings and corporate sponserships. This decision will be made by bean-counters in the NBA corporate offices and any argument not rooted in $$$ is (frankly) naive.

 

[BBert]

If we lose this franchise, we won't ever get a new one. So that would be kind of pointless.

If the Blazers leave, I'll finally learn to actually play my guitar. Because I'll be done with the NBA.

 

[santeesioux]

Its because the local politicians in Sacramento did everything they could to keep the kings.

Im not sure Portland would havr that type of political leadership & support

Yep, they had Kevin Johnson, we don't have anyone like that in this state.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Its because the local politicians in Sacramento did everything they could to keep the kings.

Im not sure Portland would havr that type of political leadership & support

They wouldn't.

Besides, why would the league move the franchise from the mid-west to Cali, only to turn around and move it out of Cali? They already decided that the league's pocket book was best served by abandoning one part of the country in favor of 4 teams in California.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yep, they had Kevin Johnson, we don't have anyone like that in this state.

Chris "Natty Lights Out" Dudley

 

[Rozay]

Its because the local politicians in Sacramento did everything they could to keep the kings.

Im not sure Portland would havr that type of political leadership & support

Why wouldn’t we? The senator of Oregon Ron Wyden is a huge Blazer fan. It’ll be ight trust me if Salt Lake City can have a team we’ll be fine lol

 

[hoopsjock]

There would be tremendous blowback.

However, the Vulcans can poison the well.

How much fan support would be lost if the Blazers traded Lillard to the Lakers? Make the Blazers a 20 win team, what happens to attendance? All in the name to "make the franchise attractive to sell". Olshey's the kind of used car salesman GM that would orchestrate such a campaign. Don't tell me you can't see him going along with something like this and then rationalizing it afterwards as he is so good at doing?

The Owners would absolutely gain by having a high profile franchise in Las Vegas. What do they get from having a great locally supported team in the Northwest? Feel good points?

My goodness man, get it together. You are worrying and trying to get people worked up over nothing.

 

[hoopsjock]

The number/enthusiasm of fans in the arena will always be less important than TV ratings and corporate sponserships. This decision will be made by bean-counters in the NBA corporate offices and any argument not rooted in $$$ is (frankly) naive.

Why would TV ratings change moving a team to Vegas? They have no history so you are thinking what that someone in like Nebraska would watch a game just because the team moved from Portland to Vegas that they wouldn't otherwise watch? Portlanders watch other games too as national broadcasts get pretty good ratings here.

The TV deals wouldn't really change much moving the team. In fact the NBA might lose viewership by pissing off yet another fan base. Vegas would go from no teams to three and we just assume they'd be some unstoppable force? During the latest recession Vegas was dying. Heck, they practically paid me to visit there a couple times. A few good years doesn't make them a booming city guaranteed to rocket the value of any incoming team. The Blazers have almost 50 years of proof that they support the team. You don't just throw that away.

 

[andalusian]

Jacksonville Jaguars might split their home games between Jacksonville and London in a few years.

The Portland & Beijing Blazers sure has a nice ring to it.

London has enough hotel rooms for the All Star weekend, it will never work.

How about the Portland and Paris (Texas) Blazers?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Jacksonville Jaguars might split their home games between Jacksonville and London in a few years.

The Portland & Beijing Blazers sure has a nice ring to it.

With CJ and Turner's shoe endorsement deals, they've been Li-ning that direction for a couple years now...

 

[BigGameDamian]