OT what to do about kids in the new normal?

[CupWizier]

What to do about kids right now? Not have any.

Well shit, now you tell me. Mine are 33,35 and 44.

 

[lawai'a]

there goes dad's vacation leave

what about second and third and fourth etc. kids ? is this what the texas lt. governor meant about grand parents being ready to sacrifice themselves for the good of the economy?

 

[riverman]

what about second and third and fourth etc. kids?

need to let the infected one cough on all the others so they can coordinate quarantine days

 

[e_blazer]

Sure. Enjoy. Fortunately I just had the shorkie (1st pic) groomed.




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Wonderful. Doggie pinups. Sly will be licking himself all day.

 

[Chris Craig]

video based instruction note. not everyone has access to the internet in rural communities or the devices to play it.

I think you replied to the wrong post, but schools can provide laptops to families in need...they are already doing so now with students at home. For those without internet access, pps parks wifi enabled buses in low income neighborhoods and works with comcast to provide $10 internet for low income families, so their kids can do school work/school related activities at home.

 

[Chris Craig]

what do parents do that are @ work about students sent home? will they need to quarantine for 14 days? how does parent work if must stay home with kids?

That is something we will have to figure out.

 

[lawai'a]

That is something we will have to figure out.

Big part of opening schools I would think. Even more impactful to the economy.

 

[Minstrel]

They become human veal.

We are facing a meat shortage.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We are facing a meat shortage.

 

[H.C.]

1. Start school back up in August. The virus will be less contagious during the summer months.
2. Break class sizes down into smaller groups.
3. Schedule the smaller groups so they physically come into school two 1/2 days a week.
4. Set up lesson plans so there is some in school teaching followed up by video based instruction that they do from home.

If the virus flares up in different areas the kids would only be losing 1 day a week of actual in class time.

Sounds good but then you also have to take into account lower income households.
These households generally are working past the time school closes.
They don't have internet, nor the ability to stay home 3/4 days a week to babysit their child. As they rely on the school, as well as after school programs until they can pick their children up.
Then you also have to factor in the additional cost of feeding their child breakfast/lunch which in lower income areas is provided by schools free of charge.

At the end of the day when schools do start back up. Considering what kind of petri dishes children are. There is going to be infections, there is going to be serious cases and very likely deaths.
Nothing will stop it, not even a vaccine.
But it won't just be in children, it'll be in adults who are responsible for children.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Sounds good but then you also have to take into account lower income households.
These households generally are working past the time school closes.
They don't have internet, nor the ability to stay home 3/4 days a week to babysit their child. As they rely on the school, as well as after school programs until they can pick their children up.
Then you also have to factor in the additional cost of feeding their child breakfast/lunch which in lower income areas is provided by schools free of charge.

At the end of the day when schools do start back up. Considering what kind of petri dishes children are. There is going to be infections, there is going to be serious cases and very likely deaths.
Nothing will stop it, not even a vaccine.
But it won't just be in children, it'll be in adults who are responsible for children.

What's the alternative, not having any school for the next school year?

We have to try and set up some sort of structure and learning.

I've read where some school districts have turned school buses into mobile wifi hotspots and parked them in lower income neighborhoods during the day.

 

[riverman]

Teaching during the day at drive ins....movies at night

 

[Orion Bailey]

I think it might be time for parents to take more control of their children's education.

 

[lawai'a]

What's the alternative, not having any school for the next school year?

We have to try and set up some sort of structure and learning.

I've read where some school districts have turned school buses into mobile wifi hotspots and parked them in lower income neighborhoods during the day.

heard in an interview with chicago school district superintendent that this was one of their solutions to the wifi issue. not sure how this will work for rural areas concerning physical distance between those needing internet.

 

[Chris Craig]

Big part of opening schools I would think. Even more impactful to the economy.

It is a big part. Just had a work conference via google meets with fellow teachers and that came up. The answers are still unclear.

 

[lawai'a]

What's the alternative, not having any school for the next school year?

We have to try and set up some sort of structure and learning.

I've read where some school districts have turned school buses into mobile wifi hotspots and parked them in lower income neighborhoods during the day.

again though, how do you deal with the students that inevitably test positive and require isolation and the parents work?

 

[Chris Craig]

We are facing a meat shortage.

 

[Chris Craig]

again though, how do you deal with the students that inevitably test positive and require isolation and the parents work?

The state/federal government need to step in and provide programs to help with that

 

[lawai'a]

we'll just ask all the old folks to provide daycare for the parents that work. like the peace corp only with higher turnover.

 

[H.C.]

What's the alternative, not having any school for the next school year?

We have to try and set up some sort of structure and learning.

I've read where some school districts have turned school buses into mobile wifi hotspots and parked them in lower income neighborhoods during the day.

There is no alternative.
When schools reopen children and staff will get infected.
People will panic and say we opened too soon.
Schools will close, families will struggle to feed their children three meals a day. As well as struggle to find daycare. With the possibility of making the decision of leaving your 5 year old child home by themselves. Or lose your job.

Cool thing with school buses.
Where do the computers come from?

You just wait until the first lawsuit is filed against schools for reopening.
It will happen.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

There is no alternative.
When schools reopen children and staff will get infected.
People will panic and say we opened too soon.
Schools will close, families will struggle to feed their children three meals a day. As well as struggle to find daycare. With the possibility of making the decision of leaving your 5 year old child home by themselves. Or lose your job.

Cool thing with school buses.
Where do the computers come from?

There are a ton of old smartphones that people have laying around. They can be refitted with a limited version of Android or OS with apps for learning.

All I'm saying is that you have 3 options.

1. O school attendance for the year.
2. 100% school attendance for the year.
3. Combination of in school and home learning.

Option 3 makes the most sense to me because if you set up a formula of 20% in school teaching and 80% homeschool teaching and if there is a outbreak in a specific school, district, or area you can cut the 20% in school part and still have 80% of your plan in place.

There are no easy or perfect answers but we have to try something.

 

[lawai'a]

There are a ton of old smartphones that people have laying around. They can be refitted with a limited version of Android or OS with apps for learning.

All I'm saying is that you have 3 options.

1. O school attendance for the year.
2. 100% school attendance for the year.
3. Combination of in school and home learning.

Option 3 makes the most sense to me because if you set up a formula of 20% in school teaching and 80% homeschool teaching and if there is a outbreak in a specific school, district, or area you can cut the 20% in school part and still have 80% of your plan in place.

There are no easy or perfect answers but we have to try something.

Are we able to test every student at least weekly yet.? I can’t imagine it happening without at least a huge increase in capacity. Social distancing for preschool kids? Tough enough herding them without that aspect being added to a daycare centers protocol.Still looking for answers and we aren’t getting it from current leadership in government. The article about French schools opening was only about a million kids

 

[lawai'a]

Not including preschool the estimate for elementary ,middle, and high school students is 56.6 million kids

 

[lawai'a]

To me the potential for a huge surge in the virus without being able to test daily is too great a risk as kids infect kids infect teachers infect parents and the economy is shut down again with even greater fear in consumers about reopening. The deaths are presently around 92 ,000 estimate of around 11200 by end of July I can envision a scenario where this gets out of hand so quickly that the entire country is dealing with the issue on a scale that was akin to NY. Herd immunity seems like a fallacy unless 1.) a vaccine is distributed that successfully controls infection, 2.) a treatment that counters the worst affects and reduces mortality is developed or 3.) testing available to all anytime. I tend to believe that H.C. is more right than wrong here. Remember the economy will only return with consumers with cash. To that end a really big plan needs to be coming soon.

 

[Minstrel]

If I said that I have no children, so I'm okay with them all going back to school and just seeing what happens, would that make me a monster?

 

[H.C.]

There are a ton of old smartphones that people have laying around. They can be refitted with a limited version of Android or OS with apps for learning.

All I'm saying is that you have 3 options.

1. O school attendance for the year.
2. 100% school attendance for the year.
3. Combination of in school and home learning.

Option 3 makes the most sense to me because if you set up a formula of 20% in school teaching and 80% homeschool teaching and if there is a outbreak in a specific school, district, or area you can cut the 20% in school part and still have 80% of your plan in place.

There are no easy or perfect answers but we have to try something.

Meals, daycare?

I have family members who with phase 1 or 2 for opening back up(whatever it is right now)
Wondering. Who's going to watch my kid while I'm at work?
Unless you're a first responder, etc daycares/summer camps are turning your child away.
That's just going to get worse during school times.

I don't know what to do, but at the end of the day. low income families are going to need far more help with the things WE take for granted.

 

[riverman]

I'd say churches have the ability to handle some child care and a new job might be paying seniors to babysit without docking their social security so it's affordable for the parents and worth it for the seniors. It takes a village to raise a child is going to have meaning again.

 

[lawai'a]

If I said that I have no children, so I'm okay with them all going back to school and just seeing what happens, would that make me a monster?

no, just safer

If I said that I have no children, so I'm okay with them all going back to school and just seeing what happens, would that make me a monster?

no but altruistic would not be a descriptive term for you

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Meals, daycare?

I have family members who with phase 1 or 2 for opening back up(whatever it is right now)
Wondering. Who's going to watch my kid while I'm at work?
Unless you're a first responder, etc daycares/summer camps are turning your child away.
That's just going to get worse during school times.

I don't know what to do, but at the end of the day. low income families are going to need far more help with the things WE take for granted.

For the little kids do what China has done, teach them to assemble iphones and pay them in rice.

 

[Hoopguru]

Going to be a challenge for sure. According to my wife (retired elementary teacher) there are discussions/ideas being kick around like, mornings afternoon sessions three days a week, all desk facing forward spaced apart, masks, temps, no play/recess, add buses and space kids with plexiglass screens, ect. On line classes for those that have great support at home and excel currently anyway. 30% of teachers are over 50 so that could be a consideration some way? There are years when a district/school is hit hard with norovirus and they will shut schools down. Herd immunity each year happens when kids come back to school and a good percentage get ill as the years progress's it improves. I feel bad because so many kids depend on school's for support and meals as their home life is not stable. They need to be a priority imo.