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Minstrel said:
One degree: Bill Russell played basketball in the NBA--the same league that Plumlee plays basketball in!
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And nobody has ever seen them in the same room at the same time. And note, the people who say Bill Russell is old or dead are the same people who claim we put a man on the moon.

Note that Plumlee and Russell both have two 'l's and a 'u'. It's obvious the government is lying to us.

barfo
 
KingSpeed said:
Plumlee is so unique though. There is no one short of Marc Gasol that do what he does on offense.
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True . . . if only he could SHOOT like Gasol! Plums is very difficult to assess because he is so unique. His passing is brilliant at times, but when his man doesn't have to guard him it handicaps the offense. So many close losses this year (@ Phx, Knicks, Ind, LAC/2nd time, & Sac, + Dal, Tor, & now Det at home) and so few of those types of games have gone the Blazers way. With about 1:15 minute left in 2nd OT last night Plums misses a "gimme" at the rim with his left that might have sealed it. Drummond was trailing on the play & didn't even try to contest, just put his arms up. And was anyone really that surprised that he missed from pretty much point blank range? No, because he does it so often. To be fair, Plums came back and forced Jackson into a t/o on the next possession. He didn't lose the game, but his weaknesses stand out in many of the losses. For a team devoid of a post scorer, floor spacing becomes paramount. And as long as MP is no threat to knock down a wide open 12', or even show some touch around the basket, the offense will stagnate when the game slows down the stretch. When you're a rebuilding team and you can get Plums on a team friendly deal? Great, you live with his deficiencies. But when you're the #2 highest paid team in the league sitting at 7 games under .500 (slated to be #1 next season by $9 million over #2), you don't need to give MP a big payday. Unless you're making a run at a title, you need to be getting production from guys on team friendly deals (preferably some young talent on rookie contracts) That is just the way the NBA is heading. If there aren't any needle moving deals to be had at the deadline, I'd rather go after youth/draft picks (even if it means taking a step back) & that includes moving Plums if we can.

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Minstrel said:
Plumlee is all things to all people, plus or minus the things that differentiate him.
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He can set a mean pick, runs the break like a point guard.
Makes the right read on defense and always will play hard.
But he can't block shots like Przybilla or Dudley.
Yeah he passes like Sabas but he's always a Plumlee to me.
 
Kaydow said:
True . . . if only he could SHOOT like Gasol! Plums is very difficult to assess because he is so unique. His passing is brilliant at times, but when his man doesn't have to guard him it handicaps the offense. So many close losses this year (@ Phx, Knicks, Ind, LAC/2nd time, & Sac, + Dal, Tor, & now Det at home) and so few of those types of games have gone the Blazers way. With about 1:15 minute left in 2nd OT last night Plums misses a "gimme" at the rim with his left that might have sealed it. Drummond was trailing on the play & didn't even try to contest, just put his arms up. And was anyone really that surprised that he missed from pretty much point blank range? No, because he does it so often. To be fair, Plums came back and forced Jackson into a t/o on the next possession. He didn't lose the game, but his weaknesses stand out in many of the losses. For a team devoid of a post scorer, floor spacing becomes paramount. And as long as MP is no threat to knock down a wide open 12', or even show some touch around the basket, the offense will stagnate when the game slows down the stretch. When you're a rebuilding team and you can get Plums on a team friendly deal? Great, you live with his deficiencies. But when you're the #2 highest paid team in the league sitting at 7 games under .500 (slated to be #1 next season by $9 million over #2), you don't need to give MP a big payday. Unless you're making a run at a title, you need to be getting production from guys on team friendly deals (preferably some young talent on rookie contracts) That is just the way the NBA is heading. If there aren't any needle moving deals to be had at the deadline, I'd rather go after youth/draft picks (even if it means taking a step back) & that includes moving Plums if we can.

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Hate to nitpick a good post, but a few people have been throwing this (bolded) around and it simply won't be the case. You're forgetting that quite a few teams will be shelling out $ for new FAs this upcoming summer. Both KD and Curry are going to get deals nearing 40mil/yr each. As are CP and Blake, etc etc. And teams like UTA will face exactly what we did this past summer in having to spend lots to retain their FAs. We're gonna be top 10, but certainly not 1.
 
Rim protection starts with perimeter defense.
No center short of the defensive monster Howard was in Orlando would look like he could be a rim protector in Portland this year.
I don't like Plumlee as the starting Center for Portland. But to say he's not a rim defender is bogus, because the only way that's possible is to ignore Portland's porous perimeter defense.
 
honkicracker said:
Rim protection starts with perimeter defense.
No center short of the defensive monster Howard was in Orlando would look like he could be a rim protector in Portland this year.
I don't like Plumlee as the starting Center for Portland. But to say he's not a rim defender is bogus, because the only way that's possible is to ignore Portland's porous perimeter defense.
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Sounds like we better get this Howard Orlando guy.

How about Pat C. and Jake Layman for Mr. Orlando?

barfo
 
barfo said:
Sounds like we better get this Howard Orlando guy.

How about Pat C. and Jake Layman for Mr. Orlando?

barfo
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You rang?
 
barfo said:
Sounds like we better get this Howard Orlando guy.

How about Pat C. and Jake Layman for Mr. Orlando?

barfo
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Clinton must be right. I am uneducated, because I don't get this joke.
Need to start working on getting my money back from George Fox.
 
honkicracker said:
Clinton must be right. I am uneducated, because I don't get this joke.
Need to start working on getting my money back from George Fox.
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Maybe we can trade George Fox for Howard Orlando.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Maybe we can trade George Fox for Howard Orlando.

barfo
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I think this is why I don't get it.
Maybe I need a comma? Holy shit grammar police.

honkicracker said:
Rim protection starts with perimeter defense.
No center short of the defensive monster Howard was in Orlando would look like he could be a rim protector in Portland this year.
I don't like Plumlee as the starting Center for Portland. But to say he's not a rim defender is bogus, because the only way that's possible is to ignore Portland's porous perimeter defense.
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honkicracker said:
I think this is why I don't get it.
Maybe I need a comma? Holy shit grammar police.
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Don't worry about it so much. I just thought "Howard Orlando" was a funny name. Had really nothing to do with your post at all other than the words Howard and Orlando were mentioned.

barfo
 
e_blazer said:
Six degrees of separation from Bill Russell?
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I'm sure 6 is possible but I can do 7.

Plumlee played with KG (Nets)
KG played with Terry Porter (Wolves)
Terry Porter played with Caldwell Jones (Blazers)
Caldwell Jones played with Flynn Robinson (Conquistadors)
Flynn Robinson played with Oscar Robertson (Royals)
Oscar Robertson played with Tom Thacker (Royals)
Tom Thacker played with Bill Russell (Celtics)
 
It always, always comes back to Tom fuckin' Thacker.
 
We keep him, and here is my supporting evidence.... After much research, I discovered a grossly overlooked stat. His 3 point shots. In each of his seasons, he has at least equaled or increased his attempts.....

2013-14: 3 shots attempted
2014-15: 3 more tried
2015-16: Up to 4!
2016-17: This year is his best! 5 so far, and there's time for more!
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/plumlma01.html


Now, given, he has never sank one of those shots.... However, if a professional Zero can make 3 in a row, on the same damn hoop, then why couldn't a professional basketball player do it???

SO, he just needs to practice a little, and simply sink his next 5 shots. His percentage for this year would be an outstanding 50%, and career would sit at a respectable 33%. THEN, we have no reason to hold onto Meyers. Trade him, and live happily ever after. Well, after we get a rim protector, fix our defense issues, blah, blah, blah.....


Sound like a good plan??? (Geeze, I've really gotta lay off some of the @Boob-No-More posts. They are always outstanding, and provide so many great facts and information. I think they are rubbing off on me though....)

:cheers:
 
KingSpeed said:
I'm sure 6 is possible but I can do 7.

Plumlee played with KG (Nets)
KG played with Terry Porter (Wolves)
Terry Porter played with Caldwell Jones (Blazers)
Caldwell Jones played with Flynn Robinson (Conquistadors)
Flynn Robinson played with Oscar Robertson (Royals)
Oscar Robertson played with Tom Thacker (Royals)
Tom Thacker played with Bill Russell (Celtics)
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Plumlee played with Gerald Henderson Jr. (2015-16)
Gerald Henderson Jr. is the son of Gerald Henderson Sr. (12-9-87)
Gerald Henderson Sr. played with Don Chaney (1979-80)
Don Chaney played with Bill Russell (1968-69)
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Plumlee played with Gerald Henderson Jr. (2015-16)
Gerald Henderson Jr. is the son of Gerald Henderson Sr.
Gerald Henderson played with Don Chaney (1979-80)
Don Chaney played with Bill Russell (1968-69)
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Mason Plumlee is a professional basketball player in the NBA
Bill Russell played in the NBA.
Done.
 
Minstrel said:
^The only two people good at this game.
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See, when you did it, I was (mildly) amused. When Nik reprised the refrain, I was less so. It's like seeing a Carrot Top routine multiple times.
 
barfo said:
And nobody has ever seen them in the same room at the same time. And note, the people who say Bill Russell is old or dead are the same people who claim we put a man on the moon.

Note that Plumlee and Russell both have two 'l's and a 'u'. It's obvious the government is lying to us.

barfo
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Minstrel said:
^The only two people good at this game.
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Hmmpf. I got zero degrees of separation. I win.

barfo
 
PtldPlatypus said:
See, when you did it, I was (mildly) amused. When Nik reprised the refrain, I was less so. It's like seeing a Carrot Top routine multiple times.
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Don't be silly, Carrot Top is a genius. His routines never get old.

 
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