WHAT TO EXPECT FROM APPLE'S BIG EVENT ON SEPTEMBER 9TH

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BoBoBREWSKI said:
I'm getting the iPhone 6 Plus (32gb/space gray). Gonna pre-order it on Friday!
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I'm getting the same one FAMS. But I have to wait til Nov 7th!


Sent from my baller ass iPhone 5S...... FAMS!
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
I'm getting the iPhone 6 Plus (32gb/space gray). Gonna pre-order it on Friday!
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No 32GB option, you get 16, 64 or 128GB. Apple pulled a fast one. Guessing they knew offering a 32GB would be that perfect middle ground and wouldn't sell many 64GB versions. In other words, you'll probably splurge for the 64GB because 16GB might be cutting it too close.
 
Bob Dobalina said:
No 32GB option, you get 16, 64 or 128GB. Apple pulled a fast one. Guessing they knew offering a 32GB would be that perfect middle ground and wouldn't sell many 64GB versions. In other words, you'll probably splurge for the 64GB because 16GB might be cutting it too close.
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Ya I just saw that. I've always gone with the 16g on my first 2 iPhones. With this latest one, the higher quality camera has really messed me up. I take TONS of pics and I noticed my phone was filling up. Barley had room for a bunch of music. Going to have to step up to the 64g like you said.


Sent from my baller ass iPhone 5S...... FAMS!
 
porkchopexpress said:
A lot better. But the moto G is about 200. That lower priced iPhone is at least 600.
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Correct. He probably meant with contract subsidy, the Moto G can be had for $179 with no subsidy.

FWIW - the new Moto X is super interesting, my wife has the old Moto X (replaced her iPhone 4S) - and the in-car features are the best thing ever - I might get a new one just for this - no one does in-car interface better than the Moto X in my experience (and I have tons of phones going through my hands for development purposes).
 
andalusian said:
Correct. He probably meant with contract subsidy, the Moto G can be had for $179 with no subsidy.
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Yeah, i just saw Mags say the new one was 200 bucks and figured it was without a contract. Guess i'll just get a Moto then.
 
Denny Crane said:
Phone has an ID chip. If you aren't present at the cash register with the phone, your account can't be charged.
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Are cash registers equipped to do this already? Seems pretty legit, although the majority of fraud is perpetrated online I would guess
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Are cash registers equipped to do this already? Seems pretty legit, although the majority of fraud is perpetrated online I would guess
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Yes many are equipped already. Apple has utilized existing technology and made it easier to use. Eventually, they will force retailers to all support it, like they did with the music industry. It's only a matter of time.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Are cash registers equipped to do this already? Seems pretty legit, although the majority of fraud is perpetrated online I would guess
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A few might be, but it is doing to be a big deal that they're updating everything to work with the NFC technology.

I have had this vision for almost 10 years now that you'd be able to wave your phone in front of a soda machine to pay for a can of soda. It's almost here.

I'm already paying for starbucks using my phone and their app. The app puts up a bar code and they have scanners to read that. The app then deducts the cost of my coffee from my account.

This Apple Pay thing sounds like that except Apple/Store/iTunes already has everyone's credit card info so you'd only need that one source to pay for anything. No credit card info ever gets sent across the wires, except when you set up your payment method with apple.com.
 
What's so hard about taking a card out of a wallet and swiping it? It seems to me, using the phone will take much longer.

:dunno:
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
What's so hard about taking a card out of a wallet and swiping it? It seems to me, using the phone will take much longer.

:dunno:
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Yeah, the Apple Pay thing sounds cool, but I'm not sure that getting out your phone and swiping your fingerprint will be so much faster than getting out your credit card and swiping it. Maybe slightly faster, but not enough to be revolutionary.

If I'm missing something important, please do explain.
 
Remember Apple Passbook was supposed to revolutionize things too? I think it will be more of a novelty with a low utilization rate.
 
Minstrel said:
Yeah, the Apple Pay thing sounds cool, but I'm not sure that getting out your phone and swiping your fingerprint will be so much faster than getting out your credit card and swiping it. Maybe slightly faster, but not enough to be revolutionary.

If I'm missing something important, please do explain.
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There will be no need for ID and your card information is safe (No static information stored on the magnetic strip, card number is not exposed), And no need to carry all your cards in your wallet or purse.
 
Minstrel said:
If I'm missing something important, please do explain.
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My understanding is that there will be tokenization of the id - (sort of the way that oAuth works for passwords via a standard login) - so issues like the Target and Home Depot hacks that exposed millions of credit card numbers is not longer a problem.
 
andalusian said:
My understanding is that there will be tokenization of the id - (sort of the way that oAuth works for passwords via a standard login) - so issues like the Target and Home Depot hacks that exposed millions of credit card numbers is not longer a problem.
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Okay, the security aspects do seem pretty worthwhile. I was hearing people laud the convenience aspect (not meaning in this thread) which I didn't entirely see.
 
andalusian said:
My understanding is that there will be tokenization of the id - (sort of the way that oAuth works for passwords via a standard login) - so issues like the Target and Home Depot hacks that exposed millions of credit card numbers is not longer a problem.
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"in theory". people will find a way, it'll just be a matter of time until the system can be defeated.
 
Minstrel said:
Okay, the security aspects do seem pretty worthwhile. I was hearing people laud the convenience aspect (not meaning in this thread) which I didn't entirely see.
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For it to work well, the user has to have a level of skill in using the phone. The average consumer/user is an idiot and more times than not, this will take longer. It'll be a novelty for several years, not sure if its going to stick. If you have to do a fingerprint verification in order to use it, its going to take a while as you have to unlock your phone, open the app, input the fingerprint then let it sync up.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
"in theory". people will find a way, it'll just be a matter of time until the system can be defeated.
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Sure, and in theory people will find ways to tire and break cars - so let's just stay with horses because neither provide perpetual motion on demand.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
For it to work well, the user has to have a level of skill in using the phone. The average consumer/user is an idiot and more times than not, this will take longer. It'll be a novelty for several years, not sure if its going to stick. If you have to do a fingerprint verification in order to use it, its going to take a while as you have to unlock your phone, open the app, input the fingerprint then let it sync up.
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I think the watch option would be the best application for this program. You don't even need to take your phone out, just wave your arm. The apps look like they would load very easily.
 
andalusian said:
Sure, and in theory people will find ways to tire and break cars - so let's just stay with horses because neither provide perpetual motion on demand.
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And... Credit card fraud is an epidemic. My ex wife had her card scanned when she was in Florida. And once they get your card, then that card is compromised. With this system, none of your card information is stored, therefor you won't have a problem and having to cancel cards.
 
andalusian said:
Sure, and in theory people will find ways to tire and break cars - so let's just stay with horses because neither provide perpetual motion on demand.
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Don't delude yourself that this is any more secure than credit card. The difference is, if they are able to hack into the system, instead of one card they can get them all. I mean, this will be useful and all eventually probably. Its been around for a while with google wallet. We'll see if it actually gets used or not. Right now its fairly limited to certain retailers and you really can't do this at a restaurant either I believe.
 
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kinda disappointed in the design, was hoping for something groundbreaking phone wise

and the watch is ugly too
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Don't delude yourself that this is any more secure than credit card. The difference is, if they are able to hack into the system, instead of one card they can get them all. I mean, this will be useful and all eventually probably. Its been around for a while with google wallet. We'll see if it actually gets used or not. Right now its fairly limited to certain retailers and you really can't do this at a restaurant either I believe.
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With OpenTable, you can pay, as explained in the event. I would recommend watching it so you can have a better understanding of the technology. That way your concerns can be valid with what you know.
 
Question: Do you use passbook and for what? Boarding passes? Movie tickets?

I just use the airline's app.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Question: Do you use passbook and for what? Boarding passes? Movie tickets?

I just use the airline's app.
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I was asked that question when the iPod came out. It was asked if I would use the CD I purchased, or have to deal with converting songs into my iPad. 5 years later, apple became the largest computer company in the world.
 
The reason why passport has not been used widely is because there isn't a iPay like they have now. There isn't a big reason why you would open that app in the first place... But... If you have the credit card concept with the app, then more fingers will start touching that app, giving retailers more incentive to support it, which will give him a snow ball effect
 
magnifier661 said:
I was asked that question when the iPod came out. It was asked if I would use the CD I purchased, or have to deal with converting songs into my iPad. 5 years later, apple became the largest computer company in the world.
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That's not what I asked about.
 
magnifier661 said:
The reason why passport has not been used widely is because there isn't a iPay like they have now. There isn't a big reason why you would open that app in the first place... But... If you have the credit card concept with the app, then more fingers will start touching that app, giving retailers more incentive to support it, which will give him a snow ball effect
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So basically, no.

Passbook wasn't meant for mobile payments, it was a place to store plane boarding passes, movie tickets, etc.
 
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