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I never understood Jeeps. They're these rugged-looking 4x4's which look like fun, but I'd actually be terrified to take it out into remote country because it'd inevitably break down and leave me stranded up some logging road 30 miles from anywhere.

Owning a Jeep is like dating a supermodel with AIDS.
 
mook said:
I never understood Jeeps. They're these rugged-looking 4x4's which look like fun, but I'd actually be terrified to take it out into remote country because it'd inevitably break down and leave me stranded up some logging road 30 miles from anywhere.

Owning a Jeep is like dating a supermodel with AIDS.
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My Jeep Wrangler has never broke down on me (knock on wood). It has the ability to climb tall mountains in a single bound! I just love it!
 
Your Jeep has AIDS.
 
My wife drives a Honda Element and I ride the train to work every day. I still miss my 1998 4-runner though, had to take the poor bastard out behind the barn and put her down a couple of years ago, 650,000 miles finally caught up.
 
GOD said:
It amazes me how long cars work and how well they perform nowadays. I've been driving a 2001 audi for a long time and the car never breaks. I have had one water pump need replacing, and that's it. Only routine maintenance. Granted, I don't drive ton, only bout 90k on it. But it just amazes me in comparison to old cars I had when I was younger and growing up. Eventually I'll need a new car, but I know I'm getting my use out of this one.
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Yes, Detroit very badly damaged the American Auto Industry with a nasty combination of intentional planned obsolescence, cost cutting measures, and management/labor battles which lowered productivity making attention to detail and careful manufacture a thing of the past.

Most of the American cars from the 70's on were terrible and didn't last. At first Americans put up with it out of habit and few options. But when the Japanese started making better cars and Euro imports increased, many customers were lost for life.

Some of those cars were nasty bad pieces of shit that didn't last 50,000 miles. What a joke.
 
Daily: Suby STi hatch.

Project: 2006 Evo 9 (Mitsubishi)
 
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Masbee said:
Yes, Detroit very badly damaged the American Auto Industry with a nasty combination of intentional planned obsolescence, cost cutting measures, and management/labor battles which lowered productivity making attention to detail and careful manufacture a thing of the past.

Most of the American cars from the 70's on were terrible and didn't last. At first Americans put up with it out of habit and few options. But when the Japanese started making better cars and Euro imports increased, many customers were lost for life.

Some of those cars were nasty bad pieces of shit that didn't last 50,000 miles. What a joke.
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I do a lot of work for a company that remanufactures GM parts. Business really sucks in the past few years. Some of that was the declining sales from the bailout/crash, but a huge portion of that is just that stuff doesn't break anymore. After decades of talk about improving quality, they actually are doing it finally.
 
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My wife drives a Honda Element and I ride the train to work every day. I still miss my 1998 4-runner though, had to take the poor bastard out behind the barn and put her down a couple of years ago, 650,000 miles finally caught up.
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Holy cow, 650,000 miles?! That's impressive. What'd you do in that thing? That's like 120 miles a day of driving.

I have a 2000 Elantra. Has only about 83,000 miles. And then we got a 2011 corolla. Not a big fan of cars, in general. We're the sort of ride it until it dies family. Don't care much for driving, really.
 
mook said:
I do a lot of work for a company that remanufactures GM parts. Business really sucks in the past few years. Some of that was the declining sales from the bailout/crash, but a huge portion of that is just that stuff doesn't brake anymore. After decades of talk about improving quality, they actually are doing it finally.
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I can see that my post doesn't make clear that, yes, overall quality has improved significantly with the American manufacturers, a trend that started in the 90's I think. The Japanese continued to get better, but the Americans have closed the gap. The era of the 70's made 5 year old junkers is long over.
 
Masbee said:
I can see that my post doesn't make clear that, yes, overall quality has improved significantly with the American manufacturers, a trend that started in the 90's I think. The Japanese continued to get better, but the Americans have closed the gap. The era of the 70's made 5 year old junkers is long over.
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Yeah, I wasn't arguing. I'm just saying the improvement in quality I've seen in the past 5 years is fairly akin to the quality improvements we saw from the 1970's to the 1990's. Just seems much more well-designed in general.

Setting aside foreign vs domestic, just in general cars are really amazing these days. You can take a basic Chevy Cruze and it probably has nicer features, better handling, and is more reliable than practically any car from the 1980's.
 
The next time i'm shopping for a new car, I will look at American cars again, especially Ford. I will also look at Japanese cars and I might even consider Korean. Love the Euro cars, but I will likely be in a price range that is not suited for Audi, unless I go used.

Years and years the American cars sucked, and now that everything points to them being competitive again in quality, price, mpg, suspension, power, turning and all the other variables, I would like to give them a shot at gaining me as a customer. But it's not guaranteed.
 
I recently drove the new Ford "Exploder" for two weeks whilst doing field work in some pretty varied country in Northern Idaho and I can say that I would seriously consider purchasing one after that experience. Great freeway vehicle and it did well on some of the god-awful mountain roads we were moving over.
 
Idaho: Famous Potholes
 
2000 PT Cruiser. It's a piece of crap, but it was my Dad's and I'm gonna drive it until the wheels fall off.

EDIT: I'll probably end up in a Chevy Malibu or a Dodge Magnum, depending on my financial situation when the Wookeemobile bites the dust...
 
Hey, it's free. :dunno:

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Because of my work schedule, I only put about 5-6,000 miles a year on my car.
 
Not rolling IN anything.... rolling ON this

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I went to check out some apartments that I'm looking at renting for law school in NOLA, and I used Google Map street view to see what they looked like.

Funny thing, I typed in my old address from 2-3 years ago as an undergrad, and they still haven't updated it. My old car's right in front of the house to the left, the black Mustang -

http://maps.google.com/maps?bav=on....a=X&ei=tT-4UeiDJIeG9QSG2oDYCw&ved=0CCoQ8gEwAA

Lots of nostalgia from that imagery... great times... some of the Mardi Gras parades ran right in front of our house... could see the Superdome from my bedroom window...
 
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GOD said:
The next time i'm shopping for a new car, I will look at American cars again, especially Ford. I will also look at Japanese cars and I might even consider Korean. Love the Euro cars, but I will likely be in a price range that is not suited for Audi, unless I go used.

Years and years the American cars sucked, and now that everything points to them being competitive again in quality, price, mpg, suspension, power, turning and all the other variables, I would like to give them a shot at gaining me as a customer. But it's not guaranteed.
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My father and grandfather both made out more than they should have working for the auto industry in the Midwest. A good portion of my buddies from school also work there. I have heard the propaganda to buy American and that they are catching up to the competition for so long that it makes it hard to believe. Been an "A" buyer since birth and have never considered making use of it.

Bought my 2003 XLE Camry new and it still runs like a champ with 127k miles on it. Got my 2008 XLE Sienna used with 17k and have loved driving the 50k I have put on it. Might consider America the next time I buy but that will probably not be for another decade.
 
The A6 was getting a little long in the tooth, so we recently decided to leave it in LO along with the XC90. Went out and bought a GL450 a few weeks ago.
 
Yeah, well so's your old kan.
 
Anyway, I'm a little smug because I'm using all the money I didn't spend on crummy car payments and insurance premiums over the past few years to fly me, my wife and boys to England for 6 weeks this summer. Booyah.

Let's hear it for piece-of-shit cars!

What am I rollin in? Self satisfaction.
 
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