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One of these will give you some confidence and security.

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barfo
 
Hilarious... you prove my point that the main reason why guns are purchased:

Fear

There will never be a time that I need to own a gun. I have no enemies and the only entity that I fear is the police.
 
Asked around the office here--as you might imagine there are a few guys here that know a thing or two about weapons.

Two recommend the M&P Shield 9mm. It's a full-size round in a .380 body. They tell me that, if you have a friend in the military or law enforcement, you can get it for $299. You can also configure it a couple of different ways (for instance, you can choose whether having a safety or not is right for you). A number of people have done the Apex trigger upgrade, which removes really the only "con" for the weapon (gritty trigger). Extremely smooth, short reset, less than $100 for a gunsmith to install.
 
Ruger lc9 is my carry gun. Has a laser on trigger guard and whole package is small enough to fit in a pocket. Only draw back to some is the double action trigger but to me that's like an added safety.

I just shot the m&p shield mentioned above. It felt great and shot pretty damn good but it's normally close to $700 on sale down here for $450 so if there is any truth to that $299 number id definitely consider it.

Springfield armory xdm is great you can get a compact or sub compact frame.

And of course glock 19 (though im not a glock fan mainly because I dont like popular things and like to be different, there's no denying it's a great gun)

As far as people only buying guns out of fear I beg to differ. I bought my first gun cause target practicing was fun, little rugged 10/.22 then I got a shotgun cause clays were fun. Then I got my Springfield xdm .40 cause I wanted to learn to shoot pistol. Then got my ruger lc9 cause the store was out of .40 rounds and i figured it would make a good carry gun. Then I got my Remington 700 .270 cause I want to eat deer meat rather than the processed garbage beef we get at Wal-Mart. No fear at all in my purchases. :-)
 
BrianFromWA said:
Asked around the office here--as you might imagine there are a few guys here that know a thing or two about weapons.

Two recommend the M&P Shield 9mm. It's a full-size round in a .380 body. They tell me that, if you have a friend in the military or law enforcement, you can get it for $299. You can also configure it a couple of different ways (for instance, you can choose whether having a safety or not is right for you). A number of people have done the Apex trigger upgrade, which removes really the only "con" for the weapon (gritty trigger). Extremely smooth, short reset, less than $100 for a gunsmith to install.
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The shield is a very common and reliable conceal carry gun.
 
dviss1 said:
Hilarious... you prove my point that the main reason why guns are purchased:

Fear

There will never be a time that I need to own a gun. I have no enemies and the only entity that I fear is the police.
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LOL are you drunk? It's not all sunshine and rainbows outside dude. People are not all law abiding citizens.


At any rate, MP shield, SRC9, glock19, LCP flavors, diamond back db9.
 
dviss1 said:
the only entity that I fear is the police
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Geez! That is fucked up! Go down and have a chat with your police chief, you might find he is a man. I just talked with mine three days ago, smart man. Even though Sly doesn't agree with his or my take.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Takes too long to reload, and the backblast area extends back into the people you're probably trying to protect. Ammo's also expensive as shit.
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Ha! That backblast would play hell with synthetic sails.
 
MarAzul said:
Geez! That is fucked up! Go down and have a chat with your police chief, you might find he is a man. I just talked with mine three days ago, smart man. Even though Sly doesn't agree with his or my take.
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You aren't black and you don't live in Portland. One size does not fit all...
 
MarAzul said:
Geez! That is fucked up! Go down and have a chat with your police chief, you might find he is a man. I just talked with mine three days ago, smart man. Even though Sly doesn't agree with his or my take.
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I don't agree with your belief that people should be allowed to hand out guns to anyone they want and I'm sure if we were to present that to your police chief he would agree with me.
 
.38 strapped. .22 Beretta is small enough for a pocket.
 
If it is perfectly ok for MarAzul to hand out guns to the neighbors every time the wind blows or a dog barks, then it is perfectly ok for SlyPokerDog to hand out automatic weapons to a few dozen gangbangers if they feel they need a bit more firepower.

barfo
 
barfo said:
If it is perfectly ok for MarAzul to hand out guns to the neighbors every time the wind blows or a dog barks, then it is perfectly ok for SlyPokerDog to hand out automatic weapons to a few dozen gangbangers if they feel they need a bit more firepower.

barfo
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Please don't call them gangbangers, the Marazul approved PC term is minority militia.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I don't agree with your belief that people should be allowed to hand out guns to anyone they want
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Well if you think about it Sly, we have the right to bear arms and we are free to associate. Sometimes you are not armed as well as you should be if your neighbor has no arms, but you are free to fix it, that is what militias do. John Hancock did it, and Americans have done it since this Country was founded. We have been free to use our judgement in this matter for years now without involving the Government. If that is to change then some Amendments need to pass the process, not just a new law, partisan as hell being imposed. You may want to subject yourself (and the rest of us) to a nanny state approval for every action, but I don't. I feel very responsible for my actions. Actually, I think all this fear these days over guns, is do to people growing up with no knowledge or training with weapons, it gets worse as time marches on.

Yes the Chief does agree, so does the Sheriff.
 
MarAzul said:
Geez! That is fucked up! Go down and have a chat with your police chief, you might find he is a man. I just talked with mine three days ago, smart man. Even though Sly doesn't agree with his or my take.
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Agree I just smoked cigars with 3 deputies the other night. Good guys.
 
MarAzul said:
Well if you think about it Sly, we have the right to bear arms and we are free to associate. Sometimes you are not armed as well as you should be if your neighbor has no arms, but you are free to fix it, that is what militias do. John Hancock did it, and Americans have done it since this Country was founded. We have been free to use our judgement in this matter for years now without involving the Government. If that is to change then some Amendments need to pass the process, not just a new law, partisan as hell being imposed. You may want to subject yourself (and the rest of us) to a nanny state approval for every action, but I don't. I feel very responsible for my actions. Actually, I think all this fear these days over guns, is do to people growing up with no knowledge or training with weapons, it gets worse as time marches on.

Yes the Chief does agree, so does the Sheriff.
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For hopefully the last time, I support gun rights and I own guns. We have the right to own guns. And yes, I do believe that we have the right to associate and make friends. We do not have the right to give those friends guns whenever we want. I have said to you before, if you want to help your friends buy guns, drive them to the gun range to train them to shoot, fill out background checks for them, even give them money to buy guns, all of that is fine. But you do not have the right to wander around your neighbor and arm your neighbors.

I'll tell you what, send me the names of your Police Chief and Sheriff and I will find their email addresses, I will ask them exactly what you're saying they've already agreed to. We will see if they really want people handing out guns whenever and to whomever they want.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
But you do not have the right to wander around your neighbor and arm your neighbors
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Is it just me you object too, or do you also feel John Hancock was wrong?

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28
 
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MarAzul said:
Is it just me you object too, or do you also feel John Hancock was wrong?
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I don't want John Hancock wandering around handing out muskets to your friends either.

But if you see him ask him for one for me, I would love to own a musket.
 
So I end it here. Like most others that want to infringe upon peoples rights and subject them to the control of the state, you are not prepared to do it by amending the Constitution. Just pass a law and be done with it. Real surprising coming from man that can think. You know and I know you know, it will not stop one crimal from doing a criminal act. It would only stop people that wish to abide by the laws. However, this time those people are saying enough, you do not alone hold the power to subject us to the approval of the state where no approval right has been granted by the people.

Geez, I wish everyone understood this advice;

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
 
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MarAzul said:
So I end it here. Like most others that want to infringe upon peoples rights and subject them to the control of the state, you are not prepared to do it by amending the Constitution. Just pass a law and be done with it. Real surprising coming from man that can think. You know and I know you know, it will not stop one crimal from doing a criminal act. It would only stop people that wish to abide by the laws. However, this time those people are saying enough, you do not alone hold the power to subject us to the approval of the state where no approval right has been granted by the people.

Geez, I wish everyone understood this advise;

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
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why have laws at all? criminals will always break them (by definition). If we have no laws, we'll have no criminals!

I agree we should amend the constitution. And eventually it will happen, but probably be at least another 20 years or so.

barfo
 
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