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dviss1 said:
Hilarious... you prove my point that the main reason why guns are purchased:

Fear

There will never be a time that I need to own a gun. I have no enemies and the only entity that I fear is the police.
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Kinda talked yourself into a circle there.
 
I agree with the M&P shield but I like the 9mm.

I also love my Glock 19. It is 9mm as well.

I highly recommend 9mm because you can get cheap ammo to practice and the defense rounds are more than powerful enough.
 
Agreed. I have a 9mm, and some people think it's not strong enough, but if you shoot someone in the right spots it's more than fine (I think small dicked people think it's not powerful enough)

It depends though, if it's for home defense, I'm going shotgun or revolver over semi auto.
 
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JFizzleRaider said:
Agreed. I have a 9mm, and some people think it's not strong enough, but if you shoot someone in the right spots it's more than fine (I think small dicked people think it's not powerful enough)

It depends though, if it's for home defense, I'm going shotgun or revolver or semi auto.
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If you use the hollow points, it hits plenty hard :grin:
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Quit pissing people off........? :bgrin:
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Exactly. Try getting along with those with whom you disagree, instead of living life on an ego trip. Some people think life is a competition to prove they're better than everyone.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
For hopefully the last time, I support gun rights and I own guns. We have the right to own guns. And yes, I do believe that we have the right to associate and make friends. We do not have the right to give those friends guns whenever we want. I have said to you before, if you want to help your friends buy guns, drive them to the gun range to train them to shoot, fill out background checks for them, even give them money to buy guns, all of that is fine. But you do not have the right to wander around your neighbor and arm your neighbors.

I'll tell you what, send me the names of your Police Chief and Sheriff and I will find their email addresses, I will ask them exactly what you're saying they've already agreed to. We will see if they really want people handing out guns whenever and to whomever they want.
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You totally reverse yourself here, rendering your entire post moot. America is not us and them. America is We The People, an all inclusive term.

You make it clear you support your gun rights, just nobody else's.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
No, I support the gun rights of everyone who is legally allowed to own one.
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Your support is interesting but it would be more interesting to know how you developed it. It has little to do with the 2nd amendment.
The right to bear arm is not restricted to arms you own. The right to bear arms is meaningless if you need government approval for every different weapon, each time you pick it up. The people have the right to arm themselves.
 
MarAzul said:
The right to bear arms is meaningless if you need government approval for every different weapon, each time you pick it up. The people have the right to arm themselves.
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That has nothing to do with the recently enacted Oregon law that you are so upset with. You do not need government approval each time you pick up a gun.

Yes, people have the right to arm themselves, legally.

You have the right to arm yourself. We've gone over this and over this.

You do not have the right to arm anyone else outside of your family. If someone wants a gun they need to legally go get one themselves. For you to claim that you have some right to walk around your neighborhood and decided who should and shouldn't have guns is wrong.

I keep telling you, you are free to help and train people to own and operate guns.
 
Oh snap!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/01/police-concealed-carry-license-holder-kills-armed-gunman/

An armed man attempting to rob a neighborhood store was shot and killed by a customer who had a concealed carry license, Chicago police said Sunday.

A masked man, later identified as 55-year-old Reginald Gildersleeve, walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employee, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. The gunman next pointed his weapon at another employee and forced her to the back of the store.

The armed customer then fatally shot the man multiple times, according to theChicago Sun-Times. Gildersleeve was pronounced dead on the scene at 7:10 p.m., according to police and the Cook County medical examiner's office. He had an extensive criminal history, including prior arrests for robbery, the Sun-Times reported. Gildersleeve was set to have an autopsy performed on Sunday, according to the Chicago Tribune.
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SlyPokerDog said:
If that's not the law then what are you so upset about?
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Precisely! I am sure now you do see how it drastically restricts the freedom we have under the 2nd amendment. Activity that Americans have done including myself for years is made illegal
by democrats. The fellow that shot the lion (with my shotgun) stocking the ladies walking our neighborhood would not have had the weapon unless we agreed to ignore the law. Forcing us to schedule a back ground check and drive to Coos Bay and back serves no real purpose except to record the serial number of the weapon. The next time I loaned that weapon for another good deed would repeat the bull shit for no reason at all except gather another thumb print.

I certainly think a smart man like your self can see this an incremental infrigement, just one more step without any meaningful ability to prevent violent acts.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
No, I support the gun rights of everyone who is legally allowed to own one.
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No you don't, not at all.

The Second Amendment guarantees it, but you want "the guvmint" to interrogate and investigate only the citizens who want to buy guns (you already have yours and I have mine), and then based on some "guvmint formula" deciding who should have Second Amendment rights and should not have Second Amendment rights prevent many Real Americans from buying guns either by imprisoning them or murdering them.
 
MARIS61 said:
No you don't, not at all.

The Second Amendment guarantees it, but you want "the guvmint" to interrogate and investigate only the citizens who want to buy guns (you already have yours and I have mine), and then based on some "guvmint formula" deciding who should have Second Amendment rights and should not have Second Amendment rights prevent many Real Americans from buying guns either by imprisoning them or murdering them.
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Hahahahaha! Interrogate?!? A background check is not an interrogation. Just so everyone knows your extreme views I will ask you a question that you have answered before,

Should felons be allowed to own a gun?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Hahahahaha! Interrogate?!? A background check is not an interrogation. Just so everyone knows your extreme views I will ask you a question that you have answered before,

Should felons be allowed to own a gun?
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If we're going to debate this, give me your definition of a felon, just so I know if we're talking about hired murderers, tax cheats or some guy who sold a joint to a narc 20 years ago. I'm assuming they served their sentence and were released?
 
MARIS61 said:
No you don't, not at all.

The Second Amendment guarantees it, but you want "the guvmint" to interrogate and investigate only the citizens who want to buy guns (you already have yours and I have mine), and then based on some "guvmint formula" deciding who should have Second Amendment rights and should not have Second Amendment rights prevent many Real Americans from buying guns either by imprisoning them or murdering them.
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Not me. I want the guvmint to interrogate and investigate all gun owners (including me) and potential gun owners alike.

barfo
 
MarAzul said:
Keen observations. Want to tell us why you posted it?
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Because a white guy....especially an older white guy...comes from a different era and experience. He has...or should have no problem wandering into the police station of a nice, relatively peaceful....and almost exclusively white little town and chat up the local cops......AND talk about gun ownership and swapping handguns with his buddies....or anyone else he chooses. Do you really think a younger black man in this day and age, in a big city with a small minority population and gang problems can do the same?? Somehow I don't think the police would be quite so warm and fuzzy.
 
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