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dviss1 said:
Do you know if they're allowing visitors? I'd like to visit him if at all possible. Is there something look he a go fund me started for him? What can we do?
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Haven’t heard anything from his family. Just sending positive vibes at this point man.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Because like it or don’t, I am “white”. That’s like asking why Black Lives Matter advertise themselves as “black”. Silly comment. You’re the one who called us “you people”. Considering you addressed that thread to what you know for a fact is a generally “white” populated message board, it’s safe to assume “you people” is code for “white people”. I don’t particularly like being called “white” (or any other ethnic identifier). I just consider myself a “person”. Do YOU see me as that and nothing more?? I’ll stop calling myself white when you stop calling yourself black. But YOU don’t wanna have THAT discussion. As I said before, quit pushing us away because you are angry. I’m angry too......but I’m going to direct that anger at the people who deserve it.
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If you're standing on the sidelines while my people are still getting killed, then you do deserve my anger.

White silence equals violence against black people.

When you stand on the sidelines idly while your fellow Americans are being killed in the streets you are then COMPLICIT with the racism.

In 2020 it is not enough to simply not be racist. White people must actively be ANTI racist or you are part of the problem.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
My ethnicity is a mix of so many countries that no single country has any real importance to me. So that makes me (and you) Americans, because this is where we are from, this is our country of origin (though doesn’t the current state of DNA testing narrow down where any and all of us....including black people....are “from”? Mine did, which is how I know how many countries are in the mix. My ancestors obviously spread their seed far and wide). And to be very honest about it, I strongly consider myself to be an Oregonian first and an American second. But that’s just me. I’’ll meet you anytime, anywhere to discuss whatever you would like. But please understand, the beer has to be cold and that you’re going to find yourself preaching to the choir........
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If that makes me and you Americans then why don't they call you European-american then?

No, they call you white so that they can create a division between us. And you latch on to it and are proud of it. Proud of a word they changed the meaning of Simply to create division between you and I. I'm just not accepting of this...

Why the hell is America so afraid to tell it's true history?

Because we'd know that Thomas Edison's light bulb wasn't shit without Lewis Latimer's carbon filament. We'd know who the stoplight was invented by. We'd have known long ago how much black excellence it took to get to the moon.
 
Trump is running campaign ads supposedly showing violence in the streets that will consume the country if he isn't in office. Pics of protesters attacking police. Only pictures are from Ukraine in 2014 during revolt against Russian backed puppet regime.
 
Guys, guys....you need to keep focusing on the 85%. Portland is an amazing city. I promise.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Fucking Wheeler set the fire.

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Ummmmmm...........that’s a setting fire in front of the courthouse. NOT setting fire to the courthouse. Fucking Ngo is a lying, agitating piece of shit. But hey, it fits the Trump narrative (And besides, Hardesty says it’s federal plants setting the fires to ramp up the violence). But it is truly sad that everyone outside of Portland is getting such an overblown and distorted view of what’s actually going on. What’s happening in a very small section of downtown would have pretty much been over and done with (except for the usual professional protestors) weeks ago, but Trump couldn’t allow that. Again, that wouldn’t fit his narrative. So he lit a bonfire to deflect from everything else he has fucked up. Those federal agents are the agitators. And like pretty much everything else he has done, it’s blown up in his face. It may play well to the uneducated citizens in other states, but anyone with any kind of common sense can see it for the political theater it really is.......
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Ummmmmm...........that’s a setting fire in front of the courthouse. NOT setting fire to the courthouse. Fucking Ngo is a lying, agitating piece of shit. But hey, it fits the Trump narrative (And besides, Hardesty says it’s federal plants setting the fires to ramp up the violence). But it is truly sad that everyone outside of Portland is getting such an overblown and distorted view of what’s actually going on. What’s happening in a very small section of downtown would have pretty much been over and done with (except for the usual professional protestors) weeks ago, but Trump couldn’t allow that. Again, that wouldn’t fit his narrative. So he lit a bonfire to deflect from everything else he has fucked up. Those federal agents are the agitators. And like pretty much everything else he has done, it’s blown up in his face. It may play well to the uneducated citizens in other states, but anyone with any kind of common sense can see it for the political theater it really is.......
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I just had a thought: just about everybody has been suckered into believing that trump was elected president. But the reality is he was elected to be the head of Fox programming
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Ummmmmm...........that’s a setting fire in front of the courthouse. NOT setting fire to the courthouse. Fucking Ngo is a lying, agitating piece of shit. But hey, it fits the Trump narrative (And besides, Hardesty says it’s federal plants setting the fires to ramp up the violence). But it is truly sad that everyone outside of Portland is getting such an overblown and distorted view of what’s actually going on. What’s happening in a very small section of downtown would have pretty much been over and done with (except for the usual professional protestors) weeks ago, but Trump couldn’t allow that. Again, that wouldn’t fit his narrative. So he lit a bonfire to deflect from everything else he has fucked up. Those federal agents are the agitators. And like pretty much everything else he has done, it’s blown up in his face. It may play well to the uneducated citizens in other states, but anyone with any kind of common sense can see it for the political theater it really is.......
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That literally made me spew my tea. How far down the rabbit hole have we fallen where we have a nitwit neofascist President being accused of arson by a nitwit socialist loon City Councilwoman? Does anyone believe a single word either side babbles?
 
about Wheeler's Wednesday night:

* City Council members have accused Wheeler of not reining in local police, who have used tear gas multiple times

* business leaders have condemned Wheeler for not bringing the situation under control before the agents showed up

* Wheeler was criticized for not defunding the local police

* Wheeler was criticized for not having Portland police protect people from federal agents

* Protesters in the crowd held signs aloft that read “Tear Gas Ted”.....

.....then they did

all-in-all, a good night for Ted....if he went there instead of having a simultaneous root canal and prostate exam while having his head shaved with a cheese grater
 
e_blazer said:
That literally made me spew my tea. How far down the rabbit hole have we fallen where we have a nitwit neofascist President being accused of arson by a nitwit socialist loon City Councilwoman? Does anyone believe a single word either side babbles?
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I really DO hope you realize I was being facetious with the Hardesty reference.........but unfortunately the Feds have a history of doing just that kind of thing to get the results they want. I just wish she’d keep her mouth shut unless and until she has actual proof to back up her claims.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I really DO hope you realize I was being facetious with the Hardesty reference.........but unfortunately the Feds have a history of doing just that kind of thing to get the results they want. I just wish she’d keep her mouth shut unless and until she has actual proof to back up her claims.
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Oh, I didn’t think you were saying you believe her ridiculous charges. It’s just gotten so crazy that I have a hard time recognizing this as America anymore.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Ummmmmm...........that’s a setting fire in front of the courthouse. NOT setting fire to the courthouse. Fucking Ngo is a lying, agitating piece of shit. But hey, it fits the Trump narrative (And besides, Hardesty says it’s federal plants setting the fires to ramp up the violence). But it is truly sad that everyone outside of Portland is getting such an overblown and distorted view of what’s actually going on. What’s happening in a very small section of downtown would have pretty much been over and done with (except for the usual professional protestors) weeks ago, but Trump couldn’t allow that. Again, that wouldn’t fit his narrative. So he lit a bonfire to deflect from everything else he has fucked up. Those federal agents are the agitators. And like pretty much everything else he has done, it’s blown up in his face. It may play well to the uneducated citizens in other states, but anyone with any kind of common sense can see it for the political theater it really is.......
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Andy Ngo staged that whole "fire" scene in a movie studio in his neighborhood using paid actors from the Proud Boys funded by Trump and Roger Stone! :Sly:
 
The people of Albuquerque are mightily confused right now and asking Why Albuquerque?

* “Recently released crime statistics from APD show a decrease in property crime from 2018 to 2019 and violent crime holding steady. Although homicides spiked in 2019, this year, has had fewer cases. violent crimes are reportedly down.“

Oops. Pesky facts. Bernalillo County Sheriff Manuel Gonzales says...

“Today’s announcement from the federal government speaks for itself, and the local FBI also made it clear what Operation Legend special agents will do: combat Albuquerque’s out of control crime crisis and solve homicides.”

This is a sheriff who is infamous for opposing body cameras for his deputies, btw. New Mexico’s generally un-reactionary, moderate U.S. Senator Martin Heinrich has taken the extraordinary step of asking the sheriff to resign." *

(it's important to note that the trump white house is using a request from the right wing sheriff of the county Albuquerque is in as predicate for sending the troops in. That sheriff has no jurisdiction in the city, although Albuquerque police do have jurisdiction outside the city limits in unincorporated parts of the city)
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anyway....why Albuquerque?


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