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You and Tuckered Out are both waaaaaayyyyy behind the eight ball on this. See the thread @Natebishop3 posted, currently on page 2. But I’m glad to see you’re keeping up. Did you see “Abject Failure” Ted Wheeler won reelection in a landslide??? Just in case you and your boy Tuck didn’t see that........
 
Three are arrested for toppling and vandalizing war memorial as protesters graffiti businesses with racist and anti-Thanksgiving messages
  • Memorial in Lone Fir Cemetery was vandalized overnight in Portland, police say
  • A statue on top of the memorial was also toppled and sprayed with red paint
  • At least 10 other businesses were vandalized overnight, according to police
  • Words 'F**k Thanksgiving', 'decolonize', and 'colonizers' were written on them
  • Police arrested Chester Hester, 24, Nicole Noriega, 38, and Bailey Willack, 23
  • They were booked into the Multnomah County Jail, and each face 10 counts of first-degree criminal mischief. It’s not clear if they have attorneys
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...erans-vandalized-statue-toppled-Portland.html
 
Three are arrested for toppling and vandalizing war memorial as protesters graffiti businesses with racist and anti-Thanksgiving messages
  • Memorial in Lone Fir Cemetery was vandalized overnight in Portland, police say
  • A statue on top of the memorial was also toppled and sprayed with red paint
  • At least 10 other businesses were vandalized overnight, according to police
  • Words 'F**k Thanksgiving', 'decolonize', and 'colonizers' were written on them
  • Police arrested Chester Hester, 24, Nicole Noriega, 38, and Bailey Willack, 23
  • They were booked into the Multnomah County Jail, and each face 10 counts of first-degree criminal mischief. It’s not clear if they have attorneys
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...erans-vandalized-statue-toppled-Portland.html

Damn. I was just there a couple weeks ago. Wonderful history there and stories of unimaginable suffering. Really a prespective check and means to be grateful for what we have.

If anyone gets time... learn some of the stories about some of the people that are laid to rest there. Beautiful and tragic.
 
Three are arrested for toppling and vandalizing war memorial as protesters graffiti businesses with racist and anti-Thanksgiving messages
  • Memorial in Lone Fir Cemetery was vandalized overnight in Portland, police say
  • A statue on top of the memorial was also toppled and sprayed with red paint
  • At least 10 other businesses were vandalized overnight, according to police
  • Words 'F**k Thanksgiving', 'decolonize', and 'colonizers' were written on them
  • Police arrested Chester Hester, 24, Nicole Noriega, 38, and Bailey Willack, 23
  • They were booked into the Multnomah County Jail, and each face 10 counts of first-degree criminal mischief. It’s not clear if they have attorneys
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...erans-vandalized-statue-toppled-Portland.html
Like most criminals, they all have something in common, they're ugly as hell. Okay, I'm not the greatest looking person myself but damn I don't do that shit.
 
lol...Chester Hester....haha...pink hair

fuggin idiots
Yesterday I saw a guy with green hair. It's a brave new world and people seem to no longer care whatever the hell they look like.
 
PORTLAND, Ore. — Portland has seen more homicides this year than it has in almost three decades and more than 850 shootings as of December, which is more than double the number reported in 2019. Portland police says it will take community action to reduce the gun violence the city is seeing.

“The number of bullets that must have been flying around our neighborhoods, city streets, sidewalks – it’s awful,” said Portland Police Bureau (PPB) Lieutenant Greg Pashley. According to Pashley, at least 225 people were shot in 2020, some of which contributed to the more than 50 homicides.

Sgt. Kenneth Duilio worked on the gun violence reduction team for 19 years before it was disbanded. He said that many shootings are gang-related and sometimes innocent people are caught in the middle.

“They're all connected. And some of these connections don't just go back like for a few weeks or a few months. They go back years and years,” said Duilio.

Portland police is asking for a community effort and action to help end the gun violence in the city.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/lo...ity-action-to-help-end-spike-in-gun-violence/
 
take the police away and we will have nothing but peace and harmony in our streets.

im puking and laughing at the same time....

very odd feeling.
The police were around. It's not like this increase is some evidence of what happens when the police are defunded or something, since that didn't actually happen.

It's almost as if record levels of unemployment, economic uncertainty, homelessness and hunger cause bad things to happen. GO figure.
 
1980, Portland received the All American City award. Portland and all of Oregon enjoyed one of the highest standards of living compared to all the other states.

Starting about 30 years ago, the politcal climate changed from balanced to being one sided. Taxes were raised making it more difficult for businesses to operate in Oregon compared to other states. Many good jobs were either lost, or moved to other states.

Slowly the standard of living declined in Oregon over the decades, when compared to other states. Portland became a shithole.

Now, things are so bad in Portland that it has declined into a 3rd world city hell hole

When are the people in Oregon and Portland going to wake up? They voted in the hell hole building politicans, they can vote them out. Their anti-capitalism policies are killing your state.
 
1980, Portland received the All American City award. Portland and all of Oregon enjoyed one of the highest standards of living compared to all the other states.

Starting about 30 years ago, the politcal climate changed from balanced to being one sided. Taxes were raised making it more difficult for businesses to operate in Oregon compared to other states. Many good jobs were either lost, or moved to other states.

Slowly the standard of living declined in Oregon over the decades, when compared to other states. Portland became a shithole.

Now, things are so bad in Portland that it has declined into a 3rd world city hell hole

When are the people in Oregon and Portland going to wake up? They voted in the hell hole building politicans, they can vote them out. Their anti-capitalism policies are killing your state.
All this may be true..... but why does the value of my house continue to climb?
 
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1980, Portland received the All American City award. Portland and all of Oregon enjoyed one of the highest standards of living compared to all the other states.

Starting about 30 years ago, the politcal climate changed from balanced to being one sided. Taxes were raised making it more difficult for businesses to operate in Oregon compared to other states. Many good jobs were either lost, or moved to other states.

Slowly the standard of living declined in Oregon over the decades, when compared to other states. Portland became a shithole.

Now, things are so bad in Portland that it has declined into a 3rd world city hell hole

When are the people in Oregon and Portland going to wake up? They voted in the hell hole building politicans, they can vote them out. Their anti-capitalism policies are killing your state.
This is one of the dumber things I have read on here in a while. It's decline into a 3rd world city shithole.? GTFO boomer. Back in my day....
All about perception. Pull up some crime statistics from the 80s in Portland and lemme know how we're doing. KThanks.
 
Is that article from 1980? An uptick in a pandemic, who could imagine!!! Show me the golden age of 1980 compared to 3rd world now or pound sand as well
 
did i dispute 1980’s high crime rate? No i dont think i did.
I stayed on topic with the fact that reforming the police is causing crime to rise.

Sorry i didn't fall for your little historical distraction rant, being rude and insulting a member here who didn't even address you and simply gave his opinion...
Man you are a piece of work.
He mentioned 1980. Said we've gone downhill since. That's what I responded to. Try to keep up.
 
All this may be true..... but why does the value of my house continue to climb?

While I agree with you there has been a steady increase in home values, untill about a year ago. There has been a small decline in Portland home values.

This decline also shows up in a recent report on the rental prices. The report states the decline of rental prices is because younger families/people that rent are moving out of Portland.

So it is not just us old boomers moving away from the 3rd world hell hole. Younger people are also finding the Portland area less livable compared to other areas.
 
If police are working to reform and thus, providing protestors with what they want, why isn't it getting peaceful?

@SlyPokerDog
Not all homeless commit crimes.
Ive been homeless.
Your trolling isnt very funny really. ;) except to the peanut gallery.

anyhow, show me a clean homeless camp with no graffiti and/or signs of drug use?
Yes they exist. But are rare.

of course its a tragedy for those who lost their jobs and homes due to covid. And they need and deserve help. But...
If any thinks the bulk of the homeless on the streets just now appeared in the last 6 months your head is in the sand.
I posted pictures of camps everywhere prior to covid and it was crickets and denial around here.

again, Ive lived on the streets of portland. Until you have, dont tell me who the bulk of the homeless are. Especially downtown. Because i know first hand the bulk of them are run away addicts. Most started out as runaway teens.

Are you familiar with outside in?

Yes, there are some homeless due to covid aNd it will get worse, but lets not paint me out to be saying all homeless are the same, because they aren't and anyone who thinks so is as ignorant as flat earthers.

You're the one who introduced the homeless problem into your rant of generalizations about people wanting police reform. Not me.

You're the one who introduced your ranting about people who want police reforms into multiple threads. Not me.

Cool, you've lived on the streets.

If you know so much about the homeless problem why did you include it in your rant about police reform?

Your overgeneralizations about what the majority of tax paying citizens in this city want from their police are just flat ass wrong.

Here are some fun facts for you, the citizens of Portland do support the police. We've done it every time they ask for money. Every ballot measure we have voted yes for. Including a jail that they demanded and never, ever, not once used.

Now there is a community in this city that says our police are not serving to the same standard that they serve everyone else. You mock that. Maybe it's time to listen to what they're asking for. The people who want to eliminate the police entirely is just as big as your flat earthers.

The homeless problem is not a police issue. The crimes caused by homeless, just like crimes by anyone else who aren't homeless is a police issue. Those are two very different things that you are intentionally conflating.
 
Open your eyes. I was born in Portland. What's happening there right now is nothing short of pathetic.
ABM, you're alive, thank God. I suspected that you being the same age as our suspect bomber and not having checked in with us for a couple days, well, we got worried.
 
While I agree with you there has been a steady increase in home values, untill about a year ago. There has been a small decline in Portland home values.

This decline also shows up in a recent report on the rental prices. The report states the decline of rental prices is because younger families/people that rent are moving out of Portland.

So it is not just us old boomers moving away from the 3rd world hell hole. Younger people are also finding the Portland area less livable compared to other areas.

I disagree with your assessment on the Portland real estate market. It has been hot, it is hot and it continues to be hot. Values have leveled off for awhile but that was expected after such a huge increase the last few years. Anything that you might confuse with a dip was wiped out the last few months.

Rental prices have gone down a little bit but that is mostly due to a huge influx on newly built condos and a sudden pandemic that makes people less enthusiastic to live so close to eachother.
 
no, you are just using short term memory and not seeing the big picture.

what im saying is the increase in crime this summer is not due to an increase in homeless people due to covid. Like it was implied.
Do you think working families lose their homes and just start shooting guns and vandalizing and grafittiing?


I dont.

what im saying is most of the homeless were there before covid and most of them are junkie criminals.

i said i posted pictures of homeless camps all over the city before covid aNd it received crickets and denials and rants from a few who liked your post(peanut gallery).

im saying, and have said l, the bulk of portland homeless are spoiled teen runaways turned criminals and junkies.

im not conflating anything.
Its the flat out denial that homelessness wasnt an issue before covid(of which i provided photo evidence to the contrary). But was told it was just a couple city blocks aNd not all over the place. Why werent you telling those people the pictures dont lie?

Then the riots were also to be said to be just a couple city blocks, even though articles posted proving its not just a couple city blocks were ignored. Typical of this place....

now im saying the increase in violence is a combination of working people and homeless, knowing the cops are in a lose lose situation and are preoccupied.
I see it in traffic, in the news, etc.


You are simply defending a few posters who cant remember they said what they said in the face of photo evidence, was just a couple city blocks for both the homeless and the riots.

hell yes im conflating them because its flat out ass wrong the denial people had and the excuses used for increased violence.

Pretty much idiotic.
Young, ignorant, lacking world history knowledge stances who think we have it sooo bad in this country have NO clue how bad it could be.

we’ll keep on this idiotic path of tearing it down instead of gutting from within to maintain a stable country and we will continue to watch lawlessness increase.


And yes there is a sect of the community who want the cops gone period.
You think thats trivial? They have said they wont leave the streets until it happens!
You arent taking that seriously???

i have no clue why you are defending the peanut gallery, so without even asking me my true opinion.


Way to continue to feed the bottom feeders of this place though. Defending thier hypocritical stances. Allowing some to back peddle on thier own words.
Two years ago i was called names in here for stating the homeless is rampant problem. I posted pictures of camps everywhere. People mocked me. Where was your trolling then?

Btw. The camps are full of trash and grafitti.
What working family on the streets is graffitiing the walls behind thier camp????

The excuses around here are straight up moronic.
Illl go around town and take pictures of all the homeless filthy camps this weekend. And when i post them i expect a response on how people think these camps are homeless due to covid.
I will be anxiously awaiting the reasoning of it.
Lol.


its all covid aNd trumps fault!!!!! No one is evil or bad! Just victims of trump or circumstance!

get the fuck out of here with that completely idiotic stance.

Lol this place and some of you crack me up.

yes i conflated them because its all part of an intertwined picture of Portland. If you don't see that, let me get you the number to my optometrist.

Where did I blame covid on the homelessness?
 
huh?

lol that's your question out of all of that?

where did i say you blame covid on the homeless?

That's how you started it out.

"what im saying is the increase in crime this summer is not due to an increase in homeless people due to covid. Like it was implied."

You're arguing against something I didn't say.

You built a lovely strawman.
 
no, you are just using short term memory and not seeing the big picture.

what im saying is the increase in crime this summer is not due to an increase in homeless people due to covid. Like it was implied.
Do you think working families lose their homes and just start shooting guns and vandalizing and grafittiing?


I dont.

what im saying is most of the homeless were there before covid and most of them are junkie criminals.

i said i posted pictures of homeless camps all over the city before covid aNd it received crickets and denials and rants from a few who liked your post(peanut gallery).

im saying, and have said l, the bulk of portland homeless are spoiled teen runaways turned criminals and junkies.

im not conflating anything.
Its the flat out denial that homelessness wasnt an issue before covid(of which i provided photo evidence to the contrary). But was told it was just a couple city blocks aNd not all over the place. Why werent you telling those people the pictures dont lie?

Then the riots were also to be said to be just a couple city blocks, even though articles posted proving its not just a couple city blocks were ignored. Typical of this place....

now im saying the increase in violence is a combination of working people and homeless, knowing the cops are in a lose lose situation and are preoccupied.
I see it in traffic, in the news, etc.


You are simply defending a few posters who cant remember they said what they said in the face of photo evidence, was just a couple city blocks for both the homeless and the riots.

hell yes im conflating them because its flat out ass wrong the denial people had and the excuses used for increased violence.

Pretty much idiotic.
Young, ignorant, lacking world history knowledge stances who think we have it sooo bad in this country have NO clue how bad it could be.

we’ll keep on this idiotic path of tearing it down instead of gutting from within to maintain a stable country and we will continue to watch lawlessness increase.


And yes there is a sect of the community who want the cops gone period.
You think thats trivial? They have said they wont leave the streets until it happens!
You arent taking that seriously???

i have no clue why you are defending the peanut gallery, so without even asking me my true opinion.


Way to continue to feed the bottom feeders of this place though. Defending thier hypocritical stances. Allowing some to back peddle on thier own words.
Two years ago i was called names in here for stating the homeless is rampant problem. I posted pictures of camps everywhere. People mocked me. Where was your trolling then?

Btw. The camps are full of trash and grafitti.
What working family on the streets is graffitiing the walls behind thier camp????

The excuses around here are straight up moronic.
Illl go around town and take pictures of all the homeless filthy camps this weekend. And when i post them i expect a response on how people think these camps are homeless due to covid.
I will be anxiously awaiting the reasoning of it.
Lol.


its all covid aNd trumps fault!!!!! No one is evil or bad! Just victims of trump or circumstance!

get the fuck out of here with that completely idiotic stance.

Lol this place and some of you crack me up.

yes i conflated them because its all part of an intertwined picture of Portland. If you don't see that, let me get you the number to my optometrist.
Desperate people do desperate stuff. People living on the streets are backed into a corner. I'm sure there are some homeless who commit no crimes but just imagine if your child is cold and hungry I'm sure a lot of people will find a way to provide.
 
That's how you started it out.

"what im saying is the increase in crime this summer is not due to an increase in homeless people due to covid. Like it was implied."

You're arguing against something I didn't say.

You built a lovely strawman.
Sly, that depends on how you want to look at it. Covid-19 has left a lot of people unemployed and left to fend for themselves while living on the streets. There's going to be some increase in crime due to that. I'm not a sociologist so I'm not qualified to quantify amounts, I can only give a quality analysis.
 

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