Rumor What's going on in Portland? (5 Viewers)

[Phatguysrule]

lol more superficial semantics to sidestep.
You saying you can't beleive im so upset is saying you believe im so upset.
Lets not mince words here.
Ill win again.

So you're not upset about the spray painting then? Or you are? I don't have a strong opinion about it.

 

[ehizzy3]

even if some had no intention or knowledge of others murdering in another section of the building?

sure glad you aRent a judge or prosecuting attorney

i would only want those who had first hand knowledge of, intent of or participated in a murder to be punished harsher.

im not getting in the middle of this but prosecutors and judges prosecute from crimes that someone didn’t intend or know would happen.

for example all the time on first 48, a driver gets charged with murder when they (the driver) thought his buddies were just gonna rob someone but it went wrong and someone was murdered in the robbery.

 

[Orion Bailey]

So you're not upset about the spray painting then? Or you are? I don't have a strong opinion about it.

i am not. Im frustrated with some people dismissing criminal activity in portland while condemning it in dc.

 

[Phatguysrule]

i am not. Im frustrated with some people dismissing criminal activity in portland while condemning it in dc.

From what I've seen people are generally concerned about the same criminal activity in both places.

I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.

 

[Orion Bailey]

im not getting in the middle of this but prosecutors and judges prosecute from crimes that someone didn’t intend or know would happen.

for example all the time on first 48, a driver gets charged with murder when they (the driver) thought his buddies were just gonna rob someone but it went wrong and someone was murdered in the robbery.

if you are referring to this, it reads as though its

not a matter of whether he should be charged even if he didnt know. The argument see t be he is lieing and he knew all along. Had prior knowledge of a gun being used.

if a capital rioter knew the goal of their affiliates were to harm people, then they should be charged the same as those causing the harm.
In this instance it seems the dispute is about prior knowledge or not. Not that he is guilty of murder regardless.

 

[Orion Bailey]

From what I've seen people are generally concerned about the same criminal activity in both places.

I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.

okay. Lol.

 

[Orion Bailey]

From what I've seen people are generally concerned about the same criminal activity in both places.

I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.

i already posted quotes showing how some dismissed what was going on in portland. They werent calling for arrests of criminal activity.
Not sure what more you need?

or is this part of that dismissal thing?

 

[Phatguysrule]

i already posted quotes showing how some dismissed what was going on in portland. They werent calling for arrests of criminal activity.
Not sure what more you need?

or is this part of that dismissal thing?

Nobody that I'm seeing is complaining about any of that kind of thing in DC. So... it's really just the violent crushing, dismembering, and killing people, breaking into the building during session, hunting for members of congress and the vice president with intentions on killing them as well.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Nobody that I'm seeing is complaining about any of that kind of thing in DC. So... it's really just the violent crushing, dismembering, and killing people, breaking into the building during session, hunting for members of congress and the vice president with intentions on killing them as well.

This happened prior to jan6th. No complaining could be had. Its also a different thread than jan6th...

it doesn't matter though. Im fairly confident no matter what evidence i provide to back up my stance, you will ignore or dismiss it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

@Phatguysrule here ya go..

illmatics is quite enlightening basically saying the guy should be dead for tresspassing.




ive found enough to substantiate my stance. Not wasting any more time on the denial so many have here.

lets see how you spin this.....

 

[RR7]

lets see how you spin this.....

I suppose I should let @illmatic99 speak for themselves, and I know you'll just say that I'm spinning, because it's your word of the week, but it doesn't at all appear to me that they are advocating for the man to be killed, but rather questioning how someone could break into the congress floor without being shot.

 

[illmatic99]

I suppose I should let @illmatic99 speak for themselves, and I know you'll just say that I'm spinning, because it's your word of the week, but it doesn't at all appear to me that they are advocating for the man to be killed, but rather questioning how someone could break into the congress floor without being shot.

wait, howd i get dragged into this? lol I currently have @Orion Bailey on ignore. Don't need his nonsense in my browsing of this forum at the moment.

and yes, that's obviously what i was saying. Trespassers in the Capitol you would expect to get shot. The Capitol police once killed a woman by shooting her 26 times for entering a restricted area outside while she w as making a U-turn.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...32bdbe-5a51-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html

 

[Orion Bailey]

But trespassers of a federal building downtown portland shouldn't be shot?

lol.
Ignore me ignore the truth ignore any one not agreeing with you...

talk Bout head in sand.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I suppose I should let @illmatic99 speak for themselves, and I know you'll just say that I'm spinning, because it's your word of the week, but it doesn't at all appear to me that they are advocating for the man to be killed, but rather questioning how someone could break into the congress floor without being shot.

didnt read that way to me and im putting context of other comments into consideration.

whether he is saying he should be or isnt he is saying it should be expected.
Then it should be expected if you break into a police hq and try to set it on fire you should be shot.

its this onesidism that is hilariously appauling.
I do love the spin. And yes its my word of the week because its yours and a few others behavior of the year.

 

[RR7]

didnt read that way to me and im putting context of other comments into consideration.

whether he is saying he should be or isnt he is saying it should be expected.
Then it should be expected if you break into a police hq and try to set it on fire you should be shot.

its this onesidism that is hilariously appauling.
I do love the spin. And yes its my word of the week because its yours and a few others behavior of the year.

So you didn't ask them to make sure of their intent? You just did what you are always yelling about in here and made an assumption. The wrong one, it turns out.
All of the things you rail on the most in here are the behaviors you exhibit more than anyone.

 

[Phatguysrule]

This happened prior to jan6th. No complaining could be had. Its also a different thread than jan6th...

it doesn't matter though. Im fairly confident no matter what evidence i provide to back up my stance, you will ignore or dismiss it.

Where is your evidence of people dismissing Portlanders breaking into public buildings while in session and literally hunting for public leaders?

I'm absolutely fine with anybody who is burning pallets against the walls of buildings being arrested.

lets see how you spin this.....

I'm also 100% fine with shooting anybody who is storming an occupied public building.

 

[Orion Bailey]

So you didn't ask them to make sure of their intent? You just did what you are always yelling about in here and made an assumption. The wrong one, it turns out.
All of the things you rail on the most in here are the behaviors you exhibit more than anyone.

no but thanks for doing the same thing. I think he is bsing to save ass. Nothing more.
Seen it many tomes here. Nothing new.

but thanks for doing what you accused me of doing...


Also. Yelling. Lol.
Thats funny shit.

 

[Phatguysrule]

But trespassers of a federal building downtown portland shouldn't be shot?

lol.
Ignore me ignore the truth ignore any one not agreeing with you...

talk Bout head in sand.

Was there anybody in the building when it was broken into? If so, then sure. I have no problem with shooting people who are breaking into occupied public buildings.

If it's an empty building and you're shooting people in the back there are probably other tactics you could take.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Where is your evidence of people dismissing Portlanders breaking into public buildings while in session and literally hunting for public leaders?

I'm absolutely fine with anybody who is burning pallets against the walls of buildings being arrested.


I'm also 100% fine with shooting anybody who is storming an occupied public building.

omfg. Semantics. I knew you would do that. They broke into the police building, trapped people inside and set fire to the damn building.


Evidence is all over the damn news.

head in sand?

 

[Phatguysrule]

omfg. Semantics. I knew you would do that. They broke into the police building, trapped people inside and set fire to the damn building.


Evidence is all over the damn news.

head in sand?

Then yeah, absolutely. If somebody is breaking into an occupied building or house I'm 100% ok with shooting that person in self defense.

 

[Phatguysrule]

no but thanks for doing the same thing. I think he is bsing to save ass. Nothing more.
Seen it many tomes here. Nothing new.

but thanks for doing what you accused me of doing...


Also. Yelling. Lol.
Thats funny shit.

I would definitely have expected those people to be shot before getting that far. Before getting in the front door frankly.

 

[Phatguysrule]

omfg. Semantics. I knew you would do that. They broke into the police building, trapped people inside and set fire to the damn building.


Evidence is all over the damn news.

head in sand?

And who defended those actions again? I'm not seeing it in your posts.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Was there anybody in the building when it was broken into? If so, then sure. I have no problem with shooting people who are breaking into occupied public buildings.

If it's an empty building and you're shooting people in the back there are probably other tactics you could take.

I would definitely have expected those people to be shot before getting that far. Before getting in the front door frankly.

remember this isnt about you. Its about the forum and what others said l, you keep defending or saying was never said.

 

[Orion Bailey]

And who defended those actions again? I'm not seeing it in your posts.

umm, by not speaking out against thats defending as evidence by my first post in the jan 6th thread when i said. “So this is when huh?” Or something like thst.

i was accused of supporting it because i didn't condemn more.

use the same rules across the board bro or im just gonna laugh at your takes being full of spin aNd double standards.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Tooooooo easy.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I predicted when i provided evidence it would be dismissed.
Im done. I called it and i was right.

spin someone else around for a while.
Im dizzy with the double standards and backpeddling.

 

[RR7]

Tooooooo easy.

This is just so fucking cringey.

 

[Orion Bailey]

it is a bit creepy even how easy it is to predict the responses to evidence submitted.
Cringy, creepy, appauling.

SlyPokerDog is a prick.

 

[Phatguysrule]

umm, by not speaking out against thats defending as evidence by my first post in the jan 6th thread when i said. “So this is when huh?” Or something like thst.

i was accused of supporting it because i didn't condemn more.

use the same rules across the board bro or im just gonna laugh at your takes being full of spin aNd double standards.

Dude, whatever you're on, it's just not working.

 

[Minstrel]

I never thought we'd have a poster as prone to public meltdowns as PapaG.