What's up with CJ?

[Rastapopoulos]

Last ten games stats.
CJ's not shooting too terribly, but his scoring is way down, his assists are pathetic (about 1:1 with TOs) and his +/- is second worst on the team behind Moe.

WTF?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Spent the summer working out with Carmelo Anthony.

CJ is now his mini-me.

 

[Labinot41]

I think his shooting is fine, it's his playmaking who is horrible. He can not pass or not want to pass, he is overdribbling and has to many turnovers. CJ is a negative fit and unfortenatly a ballhog like Carmelo Anthony. I hope he get's tradet at the Deadline and the roster get's more balanced

 

[julius]

He could be hurt, he could be sulking, or it could be that with a lack of a balanced roster he's easier to contain.

One way or the other, something has to be done. Be it a trade involving him, a trade that helps his place in the offense or an announcement of an injury or something else.

This team is fundamentally shit right now (and it's not due to injuries as they are claiming).

 

[blue9]

He's playing in a shitty system.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I said it in the game thread last night. I think he wants out. Not to say he's sandbagging on purpose, but his body language and effort aren't great and all he seems to do is call his own number when he's out there. Maybe playing for his stats and not for wins?

I wouldn't be shocked if he thinks he should be "The Man" on his own team. Who knows, maybe he's right?

 

[Nikolokolus]

He's playing in a shitty system.

The way he's playing on offense is the antithesis of Stotts' system. The isolation shit he does is more like Nate McMillan's Roy offense. If this is by design, then Stotts should have been fired weeks ago. At the very least, shame on the coaches for not holding him accountable if he has gone off the reservation.

 

[handiman]

CJ...Carmelo...China...C's are barely passing grades, pun intended.

I said it in the game thread last night. I think he wants out. Not to say he's sandbagging on purpose, but his body language and effort aren't great and all he seems to do is call his own number when he's out there. Maybe playing for his stats and not for wins?

I love me some CJ, but I said like a month ago that something appears to be wrong in the locker room, and I suspect CJ is the odd man out with how buddy buddy Dame and Nurk have become. That line of thought didn't gain much traction, but like most things here, I have to live in the land of "I told you so's".

 

[julius]

I said it in the game thread last night. I think he wants out. Not to say he's sandbagging on purpose, but his body language and effort aren't great and all he seems to do is call his own number when he's out there. Maybe playing for his stats and not for wins?

I wouldn't be shocked if he thinks he should be "The Man" on his own team. Who knows, maybe he's right?

I hope that's not the case, but it wouldn't surprise me. He wants to go out and prove himself as the man maybe?

Thing is, he can't really create for himself and others the way Damian can (and thats even compared to Damians tunnel vision at times).

I hope that's not the case but I don't know if I care anymore. The season is teetering on the abyss and it getting close to just playing Vonleh and Collins more and getting excited about their growth and not much else.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...n-lillard-cj-mccollum-pairing-already-peaked/

 

[dviss1]

I'm coming around to the idea of trading CJ.

He was legit pissing me off last game.

 

[ripcityboy]

Trying to do too much I think. Works as a natural foil to Dame when he's playing SG. But asking him to do the same role when Lillard is off has screwed up his ball handling and overcommited him to defensive assignments. Needs to get back to the pure shooting role he excelled at.

 

[tester551]

I'm coming around to the idea of trading CJ.

He was legit pissing me off last game.

The tide has turned now for the vast majority of fans.

You look at trading him, but you hold out patiently for that "right" deal.

 

[Blazinaway]

I'm coming around to the idea of trading CJ.

He was legit pissing me off last game.

welcome to the club, I think its time for CJ to get traded and change things up

 

[riverman]

I'll bring it out again about CJ....he's not suited to be a starting 2 guard...he's a perfect 6 man...only BGD and I agree about this...we need bench scoring and to get other guys into double digit scoring on the starting unit....you can hide one guard on defense but not two of them. CJ would thrive in the role Mo Williams had with us...bench sparkplug who could build a lead against second string units....he lights up everytime he talks about the east coast where his girl is from....he wants to be a Knick...book it....that's why he worked out in New York all summer..his girl lives there...any east coast destination would probably make him happy and he'll make an allstar team in the east...here, he's realizing what Crabbe realized....he's a shadow next to Dame

 

[santeesioux]

CJ for Middleton plus some other stuff?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I'll bring it out again about CJ....he's not suited to be a starting 2 guard...he's a perfect 6 man...only BGD and I agree about this...we need bench scoring and to get other guys into double digit scoring on the starting unit....you can hide one guard on defense but not two of them. CJ would thrive in the role Mo Williams had with us...bench sparkplug who could build a lead against second string units....he lights up everytime he talks about the east coast where his girl is from....he wants to be a Knick...book it....that's why he worked out in New York all summer..his girl lives there...any east coast destination would probably make him happy and he'll make an allstar team in the east...here, he's realizing what Crabbe realized....he's a shadow next to Dame

 

[julius]

Part of me wonders if maybe the reason the team has struggled so much (and CJ being meh this year) is because he's asked to be traded but they've kept it quiet (since Olshey seems to be really good at that kind of shit).

It is just another theory on what might explain some of the teams struggles this year (outside of lack of talent). They're being professional about it, yet it's obviously effecting their overall game play.

 

[Labinot41]

I still think the best team to trade CJ is the 76ers. They need shooting from backcourt and they have assets/picks.

 

[Blazinaway]

Part of me wonders if maybe the reason the team has struggled so much (and CJ being meh this year) is because he's asked to be traded but they've kept it quiet (since Olshey seems to be really good at that kind of shit).

It is just another theory on what might explain some of the teams struggles this year (outside of lack of talent). They're being professional about it, yet it's obviously effecting their overall game play.

Can't rule that out but frankly IMO we just aren't that good, the roster is both unbalanced and not very talented

 

[Blazinaway]

I still think the best team to trade CJ is the 76ers. They need shooting from backcourt and they have assets/picks.

the big "but" with Philly is they are "rumored" to have hopes of Lebron this offseason and want capspace for a max contract pursuit

 

[julius]

Can't rule that out but frankly IMO we just aren't that good, the roster is both unbalanced and not very talented

Yep, that is a factor.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

MF dribbles more than Riverman after 17 shots of tequila.

 

[tlongII]

C.J. is NOT the problem. The problem is we lack a serviceable small forward and Stotts' stupidity in line-ups.

 

[Strenuus]

I mentioned this in the game thread... but I have always thought CJ came off as smug. Flame me if you want, but I've actually never really liked his attitude.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I still think the best team to trade CJ is the 76ers. They need shooting from backcourt and they have assets/picks.

Agreed, and of course he went to school in Pennsylvania.

Would they give up Fultz? Would we want him? Their interesting assets:
Covington (they wouldn't give him up but he'd be PERFECT) $16.7M
Fultz, $7M
Saric, $2.4M
Richaun Holmes, $1.5M
Korkmaz $1.5M
Luwawu-Cabarrot, $1.4M

To match salary:
Redick, $23M (expires this year)
Amir Johnson, $11M
Bayless, $9M

CJ makes $24M. Harkless makes $10M. Go nuts.

 

[stampedehero]

He could be hurt, he could be sulking, or it could be that with a lack of a balanced roster he's easier to contain.

One way or the other, something has to be done. Be it a trade involving him, a trade that helps his place in the offense or an announcement of an injury or something else.

This team is fundamentally shit right now (and it's not due to injuries as they are claiming).

Hey Neil:If this happens, please no trades to any Western Conference teams. Philly, Pacers, Chicago,Nets, Knicks....Why Not?

 

[Blazinaway]

they do want to get rid of Bayless's contract who is owed 9 mil this yr and next, Fulz/Saric/Bayless for CJ? We take Fultz and they take the sure thing scorer which works for them with a Simmons "point guard/fwd/ctr"

 

[Labinot41]

A friend of me is philly fan and he said he wouldn't even trade fultz for CJ for 1 on 1. In his oppinion fultz is im 2 years a much better player than CJ

 

[GrandJury]

I mentioned this in the game thread... but I have always thought CJ came off as smug. Flame me if you want, but I've actually never really liked his attitude.

Wow smh