When do you want lockout to end?

[jlprk]

I'm tired of the endless articles on ESPN on the NBA lockout and its obvious the two sides are still apart on the $$ side of things. The players don't care about the fans, the employee's, the troubled economy since 2009 (at least), and the local business owners, etc. Screw em and the players will see how much the fans will be pissed off next year if the season is scrapped.

Since long before the lockout began, the players have offered an actual pay decrease, from 57% to 53%.

53/57 = 93%, so they are offering to decrease their own pay 7%. Do you know of any other American employees who are offering the same? Are you offering that?

 

[Draco]

Since long before the lockout began, the players have offered an actual pay decrease, from 57% to 53%.

53/57 = 93%, so they are offering to decrease their own pay 7%. Do you know of any other American employees who are offering the same? Are you offering that?

Stern has even said the money isn't the main obstacle now to getting a deal done, both sides are fairly close on the money. The owners want a system where all teams have a chance to compete such as in the NFL or even MLB. When your sport is looking to a league dominated by exhorbent payroll yankee franchises as a model of fairness you know there is a problem! The NBA is the least competitive sports league for small market teams in less than glamourous cities. The players want to create Miami Heat superteams in New York and LA which the majority of owners are strongly against.

 

[Ed O]

Since long before the lockout began, the players have offered an actual pay decrease, from 57% to 53%.

53/57 = 93%, so they are offering to decrease their own pay 7%. Do you know of any other American employees who are offering the same? Are you offering that?

They are offering a reduced percentage of BRI. Not an absolute pay decrease. If BRI goes up enough, they could still get a collective raise in pay even if they went 50/50.

Ed O.

 

[Nikolokolus]

They are offering a reduced percentage of BRI. Not an absolute pay decrease. If BRI goes up enough, they could still get a collective raise in pay even if they went 50/50.

Ed O.

With a prolonged lockout I'd wager BRI is going to shink over the coming years with an increase in fan apathy ... maybe I'm over-estimating the blowback, but something tells me this whole ordeal isn't exactly burnishing the image of the product these two sides are trying to sell.

 

[Ed O]

With a prolonged lockout I'd wager BRI is going to shink over the coming years with an increase in fan apathy ... maybe I'm over-estimating the blowback, but something tells me this whole ordeal isn't exactly burnishing the image of the product these two sides are trying to sell.

That's true. And points out another side of what I was saying: the players could demand 60% of BRI and eventually get it but take a pay cut if the BRI goes down.

Ed O.

 

[Further]

Between personal economic issues and my own apathy towards the NBA right now, I doubt I will buy any tickets this year.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Between personal economic issues and my own apathy towards the NBA right now, I doubt I will buy any tickets this year.

With the apparent apathy these two sides appear to have for getting a deal done ... I doubt you will be buying any tickets this year also.

 

[Draco]

I really don't follow the rest of the NBA outside of the Blazers until February/March anyways, at which point I follow it closely But I follow my Blazers fanatically year round, so in a way I'm really happy there has been a lockout as it has forced me to withdraw and take a break. After 10 years of non-stop fandom a break is refreshingly good. As Ed O mentioned the Roy/Oden situation has become extremely depressing, sure LaMarcus has improved tremendously but considering he had the lowest ceiling of the three I'm not sure if that makes me happy or sad. So a break has been nice, we really have no chance at competing this season and we don't have any new exciting rookies or young players. Gerald Wallace is the guy I'm most excited to see but he should really be the 3rd/4th best player on a contending team.

I do enjoy the NBA offseason, free agent signings, trades, salary cap, so I'm very interested in the details and mechanics of the new CBA. NFL style competition with surprising up and coming teams and rapidly declining veteran teams would be a welcome change. The current NBA could virtually pencil in the 4 contenders from each conference in the preseason and basically skip ahead to the playoffs. The other 22 teams have zero chance. And finding a way to get players like Darius Miles off the roster when management and fans no longer want them would be very healthy for the league. Even if the player is still paid in some way or whatever.

So whatever NBA, take your time, I'll always be back to follow my Blazers fanatatically because I'm a fanatic. I'll be less inclined to pony up money for 100 level tickets, I may just watch at Big Al's more often instead. I do want the lockout to end this year, but I hope the parties agree on a more equitable agreement and we still get at least half a season. I loved the Mavs title run last year and would really miss not having an NBA playoffs.

 

[jlprk]

But I follow my Blazers fanatically year round...So whatever NBA, take your time, I'll always be back to follow my Blazers fanatatically because I'm a fanatic.

Note to self: You learned a new word today. Remember alternative spelling. May be useful someday.

 

[MARIS61]

Stern has even said the money isn't the main obstacle now to getting a deal done, both sides are fairly close on the money. The owners want a system where all teams have a chance to compete such as in the NFL or even MLB. When your sport is looking to a league dominated by exhorbent payroll yankee franchises as a model of fairness you know there is a problem! The NBA is the least competitive sports league for small market teams in less than glamourous cities. The players want to create Miami Heat superteams in New York and LA which the majority of owners are strongly against.

Players don't, CAN'T create teams. If they want to play they must do as they are told and work where they are told.

The plantation owners buy, sell and trade them like livestock.

Did I say plantation owners? I meant player owners...uh...TEAM OWNERS! That's what I meant. The team owners buy, sell and trade them like livestock.

 

[MARIS61]

Note to self: You learned a new word today. Remember alternative spelling. May be useful someday.

I googled the word fanatatically and found it to be rarely used, but here are a few exceptions:

I do agree pigs are really smart so I certainly don't eat much pork (I doubt I've eaten a whole pig yet). But as I said I'm not a fanatatic, and theres no denying the unique taste of pork products which is enough swing the balance for me. If there was a stupider, similar tasting animal then I would eat that instead.

Being in the biggest inland swamp is like walking into a BBC-nature documentary (only the voice of David Attenborough is missing). The Pantanal is a must see for any serious wildlife fanatatic: with over 600 different bird species, caymans, capybaras, ant eaters, ammarillos and so forth there is plenty of wildlife to try to capture on film (Robin's new 200mm zoom lens didn't always manage to do the job).

I assume Wilson meant this too. But lets try something revolutionary -- Lets ask him. Or let him clarify it. Before we fanatatically
declare a particular interpretation as 100% certain as to what he meant.

I'm not sure MGM is overly concerned that their customers see the need to upgrade. Those who are fanatatic WILL, those who won't will not, and they will still sell more of the Bond films than most of what is in their catalogue.

If you are too fanatic about it than you maybe in for a surprise.If you refuse to drink any thing else than water and, even more fanatatic, drink only water bottled in plastic, than : you miss the fiber and nitrate in beet root juice, you miss the bacteria in tap water so your immuun system might go looking for his own problems and give you an auto immuun disease like T1, you might ingest a lot of BPA etc etc.....

Hello Michel...as a fog fanatatic you have done a lovely job here, it deserved far more attention than it received. Well composed, lovely colour and fine definition on the water. TFS,
David

Haters? For christ sakes we want the best guy to win, we just hate seeing people repeatedly preach gospel about how Dayne is the best back in history. It gets annoying and many people take it too far.

People who fanatatically stand behind Dayne rather than just support all our running backs only have his college stats to go behind.

I do not want the "same repeated preaching." I agree with many on here concerning the poor quality of religious programming. I watch Shepherd's Chapel because the pastor there 1. DOES NOT BEG FOR MONEY (i.e. no telethons or "send in your money") 2. DOES ONLY BIBLE TEACHING (not a bunch of hot air, singing, and yelling that means nothing). I am not a religious fanatatic or a holy roller. I want to learn the bible chapter by chapter and verse by verse and Pastor Murray is the only preacher I have EVER seen that does that. Thus, he is not a repeat. I do not watch TBN, EWTN, Daystar, etc. They have way too much "send in your money" and very, very, very little bible teaching, if any.

 

[jlprk]

Not sure (memory hazy) but that is possibly the best research I have seen on the subject. I could be wrong. I want to commend you for your efforts and encourage you to keep up the good work.

 

[mgb]

Baseball is the worst thing in the world to watch!

I agree. I love to play baseball, but pretty boring to watch unless you are in the stadium having a dog and a beer.

 

[mgb]

I want the games to start now! Though my main excitement for this season is to see hopefully a healthy Oden and that won't be until Jan from what I've read.

GO BLAZERS!! whenever the season starts anyway.