When is Stotts going to play Nurk and Collins together?

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Pinwheel1 said:
A rookie who struggled early but is playing well in the G league is going to make us more consistent? If you want to tank after awhile then fine play him, but it is too early for that.
IMO if he plays he will be taking Ed's minutes. I doubt that will go over well with the other players. Unless you trade Davis.....
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You do make a good point...I honestly underestimate just how well Davis is actually doing at the moment.
 
DameLill379 said:
Caleb S is apparently that man in the G-League don’t be surprised if he gets called up pretty soon here. We have to shake things up if we want to turn this around because this inconsistency is getting ugly...we blow out OKC, beat out the Spurs but lose games we should win against NO. That one Atlanta Hawks game we got blown out in earlier in the year sticks with me....WTF is going on.
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Portland blew out OKC(a middle of the pack team just like Portland) beat the Spurs(without 3 starters, and rudy gay) only to lose to another middle of the pack team in NO.
Literally nothing is going on, it's expected.
Portland is a middle of the pack team who is good enough to beat anyone on any given night. But they're a middle of the pack team, meaning they could lose to anyone on any given night.
4-11 in the West are all middle of the pack teams.
 
honkicracker said:
Portland blew out OKC(a middle of the pack team just like Portland) beat the Spurs(without 3 starters, and rudy gay) only to lose to another middle of the pack team in NO.
Literally nothing is going on, it's expected.
Portland is a middle of the pack team who is good enough to beat anyone on any given night. But they're a middle of the pack team, meaning they could lose to anyone on any given night.
4-11 in the West are all middle of the pack teams.
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So tell me what moves you feel need to be made to have us back where we were in 2015? Mirotic? Randle?
 
Nurk/Collins/Aminu is a future front court rotation that would look pretty good in a couple of years. Provided Nurk and Collins continue to progress.
 
DameLill379 said:
So tell me what moves you feel need to be made to have us back where we were in 2015? Mirotic? Randle?
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I don't think any of the players right now being linked to possible trade destinations puts Portland back to where Portland was in 2015.
Mirotic reminds me all too much of every other bulls stretch 4 they've had since what 2005?
Randle outside of 3ft shoots worse than DJ.
Bazemore due to his contract only makes logic imo if he is replacing Turner.

I don't think tanking needs to happen, but I do think Portland has 2 options.
Construct a better roster with actual 3&D players, because star players aren't coming to Portland if they don't get to WCF & are a top 1/2 seed.
Or trade one of Lillard/CJ and hope that gets you more talent which pans out.

I stated before this season started that Portland is a middle of the pack team, and nothing has happened to force them one way or the other.
 
ripcityboy said:
Nurk/Collins/Aminu is a future front court rotation that would look pretty good in a couple of years. Provided Nurk and Collins continue to progress.
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are you doubting Nurk progress... be very careful about what you gonna say
 
ripcityboy said:
Nurk/Collins/Aminu is a future front court rotation that would look pretty good in a couple of years. Provided Nurk and Collins continue to progress.
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I still think you need a SF, in a couple of years, that can shoot from deep and attack the basket. Aminu might be our best option now at SF, but I sure hope we find something better than him in a another two years.
 
Mr. Robot said:
are you doubting Nurk progress... be very careful about what you gonna say
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If doubting Nurk draws you're ire, than I'd say he has regressed into Stone Age basketball.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
I still think you need a SF, in a couple of years, that can shoot from deep and attack the basket. Aminu might be our best option now at SF, but I sure hope we find something better than him in a another two years.
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We need a player like Wiggins.
 
DameLill379 said:
Appreciate that! Good to find an active Trail Blazers board. I have been looking for one to talk some Blazer ball on for awhile. I have my NY Jet board but I just needed a Blazer board. Good stuff here.
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Im in charge here, welcome!

theres only one rule around here: DONT HATE NURK!
 
I've been asking this for a while, and after a lot of consideration I think I could put together Stotts' response (if he actually wanted to tell the truth, which he shouldn't frankly):
1. You play your best players at their natural positions. All the advanced metrics over Aminu's career show he's better as a stretch 4 than a small forward. Not just this year, but past years. Collins right now isn't as good as Aminu. He probably will be in the near future, but not right now.
2. The NBA is trending toward small PF's. Starting Aminu reflects this trend.
3. Portland's offense relies on spacing. Pulling out larger PF's with Aminu's 3 point threat creates lanes for Dame and CJ. Collins hasn't demonstrated consistent perimeter shooting in game time.
4. Collins fouls a lot. I mean a LOT. I'm not giving him loads of PT until he resolves this, because guys who foul a lot often develop a reputation for doing so and it's harder to kick with refs.
5. We started Vonleh for over a year, and look what it got us. We're in win-now mode with Dame in his prime and trying to get home court in the first round. If we win more and maybe get out of the first round, we become more attractive to other players, and they'll be more interested in playing here as free agents. Maybe we get Carmello this last off-season if we'd had a better record than OKC last year.
6. We already start a pretty slow center. We sag Nurk on pick and roll defense to keep him near the rim. Aminu makes up for a lot of that by allowing lots of switching ability and quick help defense. Collins isn't as used to switching at an NBA level.

Note: I don't agree with this reasoning, but it's a pretty valid stance to take.

Collins has taken 10 three point attempts over the past 5 games, so I think there is a message he's hearing that he needs to space the floor if he wants more minutes. Also, remember, LaMarcus Aldridge had his minutes and starts scrambled all over the place in his first season too.
 
@mook .... excellent channeling of Stotts. Too bad he doesn't remember that 2 of the best stretches they have played in the last two years is when Vonleh was starting and/ or when he played 22+ minutes.

Not rocket science but then maybe science was never his thing.
 
Collins is a good piece with Ed off the bench....he's still a rookie and lacks lower core strength to bang with starting centers..he will only get better
 
TBpup said:
@mook .... excellent channeling of Stotts. Too bad he doesn't remember that 2 of the best stretches they have played in the last two years is when Vonleh was starting and/ or when he played 22+ minutes.

Not rocket science but then maybe science was never his thing.
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Whether it's Vonleh, or Collins, we need to start one of the two at PF, with Nurk at center and Aminu at SF.

The problem isn't really Aminu at PF, it's whoever we play at SF, whether it's Turner or Harkless, just isn't getting the job done, not even close.

Starting one of Vonleh or Collins and moving Aminu to SF will improve our defense, improve our rebounding, and not really hurt our offense, since we get so little (other than poor shooting and excessive turnovers) from the starting SF anyway.

BNM
 
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