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We’ve already hit our ceiling!37 wins

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We’ve already hit our ceiling!37 wins
Your foundation determines how high you can actually build your ceiling. In order to have the highest ceiling you need the best foundation possible.We’ve already hit our ceiling!![]()
ACTUALLY, we passed on Jordan because our starting SG Jim Paxton was an AllStar and Clyde was a backup.
Sorry, I can’t tell you where I will finish in the road race, until I know what I kind of lawnmower I’m driving.
is this serious? worse than this year?37 wins
Your foundation determines how high you can actually build your ceiling. In order to have the highest ceiling you need the best foundation possible.
Oklahoma City built the foundation for a skyscraper...
Talent costs money. But you have to have top level talent to have a realistic shot to win a championship.OKC has some dark clouds ahead though. After next season, both Holmgren and Jalen Williams are due for their new contracts. Both will likely be max players and projecting, could each be making 9M/year on 5 year deals. OKC has covered a couple of bases on that because they have team options for Hartenstein and Dort that season. But they do have some real difficult choices ahead
It's what I've been saying elsewhere - the only thing that'll stop OKC is the salary cap/luxury tax.OKC has some dark clouds ahead though. After next season, both Holmgren and Jalen Williams are due for their new contracts. Both will likely be max players and projecting, could each be making 9M/year on 5 year deals. OKC has covered a couple of bases on that because they have team options for Hartenstein and Dort that season. But they do have some real difficult choices ahead
True. I think the question still stands though, doesn't it?ACTUALLY, we passed on Jordan because our starting SG Jim Paxton was an AllStar and Clyde was a backup.
You and @THE HCP on different sides of the spectrum is one of this sites true constants.54 wins...that's my prediction every season and it's the same next season! Maybe more after we trade Grant and Ant for Giannis or KD
Sorry, I can’t tell you where I will finish in the road race, until I know what I kind of car I’m driving.
is this serious? worse than this year?
After wasting this season next season really doesn't matter. No reason to be pissed next season.Watch the Blazers trade for Lauri Markkanen or Julius Randle and most fans just be pissed off! Blazers win 53 games and in the playoffs. Problem solved!
Are you saying there is no talent available in next years draft class? I just figured they would probably be a late pick again next year.After wasting this season next season really doesn't matter. No reason to be pissed next season.
This was our chance. We either get super lucky in this draft or we've got what we've got. Just as well win as much as possible next season.
I'm saying we probably won't be able to lose enough to increase our odds of drafting a star substantially. We'll probably be picking 10 or later barring serious injuries across the board.Are you saying there is no talent available in next years draft class? I just figured they would probably be a late pick again next year.
So in the same boat as we were with Dame but now without Dame.I'm saying we probably won't be able to lose enough to increase our odds of drafting a star substantially. We'll probably be picking 10 or later barring serious injuries across the board.
Trading for better players and trying to win is about our only chances to make any real noise...
That probably should have had green font but it’s too close a call to say it’s complete sarcasm.So in the same boat as we were with Dame but now without Dame.
Yeah, that's how it looks... Unless we get really lucky.So in the same boat as we were with Dame but now without Dame.
Not really.So in the same boat as we were with Dame but now without Dame.
Not really.
Camara, Avdija. Dame never really had that level of forwards….both offensively and defensively. This team is in way better shape post Dame
Of course, in order to add a star caliber player we'd probably have to trade those assets, right?Not really.
Camara, Avdija. Dame never really had that level of forwards….both offensively and defensively. This team is in way better shape post Dame
I wonder though, how many of the young teams that have established the baselines, did have a player who became a superstar while they were skewing those baselines upward
for example, the OKC model. They only won 24 games in 2021-22 as by far the youngest team in the league (22.8). SGA hadn't even made it to an all-star game yet
The next season, OKC improved by 16 wins to 40. SGA became an all0star and generally a superstar that season. But because of draft picks, OKC's average age remained the same (22.8). The next season, they improved by 17 wins while their average age went from 22.8 to 23.4. That season, SGA averaged 30-6-6 with a PER of 29.3
obviously, OKC has to be on th upper end of any age/win curve. But I'm wondering if their position on the upper end is because of average age or SGA
Detroit had a 30 win improvement. Was that because of overall roster maturation or because Cade Cunnigham elevated to a top-15 player, going from 23-4-7 to 26-6-9?[/QUOTE
You’ll have to deal some one or even a couple of players you’d rather notOf course, in order to add a star caliber player we'd probably have to trade those assets, right?
Or maybe we can offer up draft picks, Ant, and Ayton's expiring? Maybe? Would that be enough?
I should have said recently. LMA and Batum were great forwards to be sure. Hopefully our current two can be as good of a combo. I don’t believe either will be as good as LMA wasYou like Camara and Avdija more than LMA and Batum in the moment when Dame was a rookie? I’m not doubting you (I remember your opinions back then) but pleasantly surprised by the implications.
LMA is borderline HOF but Avdija may be able to surpass LMA. Time will tellI should have said recently. LMA and Batum were great forwards to be sure. Hopefully our current two can be as good of a combo. I don’t believe either will be as good as LMA was
Ha ha ha ha.... not even closeLMA is borderline HOF
Ha ha ha ha.... not even close
If only OKC could eventually find a few assets that provide production on very low salaries - like future draft picks.It's what I've been saying elsewhere - the only thing that'll stop OKC is the salary cap/luxury tax.