Which option? Which direction?

[SharpesTriumph]

If it is an epically loaded draft instead of a top-heavy draft then we should be ok.

It's an epic top5 in this draft.

Last year with 21 wins we got the 7th pick - today we have more wins. The ship has sailed on tanking for a likely top5 pick.

Sure we could get some miracle and jump into the top4. But that same miracle is there regardless of pushing for the playin and falling short or trying to tank from here on out.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Avdija best case scenario is.... prime Batum?

They're not really very similar. How about a poor man's John Havlicek?

 

[Natebishop3]

 

[Domihatin]

So much is wrong with so many so-called fans in here. "Sob sob, sniff sniff, whaaaaa, why couldn't we have trades Simons and Ayton for actual GOOD player???"

News alert. Simons and Ayton ARE great players. It's actually rather comical to see people wanting to perpetually whine and complain and keep wanting to give up on players and grab new and start over again.

Have you even watched games? Do you see how they are playing? Did you see Anfernee last night? And you want to trade that? And it isn't a fluke performance or a one-off.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, but da grass is always greener elsewhere. The ASS of the wife is always tastier in the neighbor's yard. Why don't you realize the ass you already have in your wife is a FINE frickin' ass! Just clean her up, motivate her to whip her butt into shape, get her with the program of winning at life daily and it will be sweet looking AND tasting! Besides, if you trade out for what's on the other side of the fence? You'll find it has its flaws, too and needs work, so why make the moves?

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

So much is wrong with so many so-called fans in here. "Sob sob, sniff sniff, whaaaaa, why couldn't we have trades Simons and Ayton for actual GOOD player???"

News alert. Simons and Ayton ARE great players. It's actually rather comical to see people wanting to perpetually whine and complain and keep wanting to give up on players and grab new and start over again.

Have you even watched games? Do you see how they are playing? Did you see Anfernee last night? And you want to trade that? And it isn't a fluke performance or a one-off.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, but da grass is always greener elsewhere. The ASS of the wife is always tastier in the neighbor's yard. Why don't you realize the ass you already have in your wife is a FINE frickin' ass! Just clean her up, motivate her to whip her butt into shape, get her with the program of winning at life daily and it will be sweet looking AND tasting! Besides, if you trade out for what's on the other side of the fence? You'll find it has its flaws, too and needs work, so why make the moves?

Been punched in the face lately?

 

[sheed30]

We just won against the Phoenix Suns.

In the decisive moments of 4/4 and in overtime our last 3 lottery picks Scoot, Shaedon and Clingan were sitting on the bench.

So, what's the verdict and the direction here?

Simons/Grant/Ayton are our big three and we plan on being competitive with them?

Scoot/Shaedon/Clingan were three consecutives draft mistakes?

Where are we going?

People enjoy winning without looking at the big picture

We are at risk of this scenario 1 year from now:

- Flagg, Bailey and company play in other franchises
- Simons, Grant and Ayton have little to no value and we must unload them
- Scoot, Shaedon and Clingan are purgatory material

It's the same situation that happened after Aldridge left

We should have tank and instead we won with Lillard, CJ, Aminu, Harkless and Plumlee and we condamned ourselves to years of purgatory

Crazy you guys are still up in trading Grant, Ant and Ayton.

I’m not opposed to trading either of them, but it’s what we would get back that’s most important.

rememebr the ones saying we need to trade Ant for a draft pick, hilarious lol

 

[sheed30]

I respect that you love purgatory so much. It’s inspiring.

How many superstars have the blazers drafted in the past 30 years with top picks?

Imagine if we tanked this year and didn’t even get a top 3 pick lol. That would be fun wouldn’t it?

your one of the posters that never has anything good to say

 

[sheed30]

What’s brain dead is trotting out the same players that have proven they can’t win consistently and thinking things are going well.

We both want the same thing, just a difference of opinion on how to achieve it. No reason for name calling.

We have an average team at best with a shitty head coach at this point in his career.

Lol bro, Ayton made the finals and was a big reason for them getting there.

Grant has been on many playoff teams.

go cry some more damn, we are playing good and you still bitching

 

[Domihatin]

Been punched in the face lately?

Haha, nope. No one would dare;

1st: friends/fellow fans agree with this attitude of fuck tanking.

2nd: I have 6 times the strength of standard men.

3rd. My intellect, awareness and improvisational ability is extremely high and if someone else tried an attack, they would end up in a world of hurt on themselves.

4th. I should stop here before I sound like I'm boasting.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Lol bro, Ayton made the finals and was a big reason for them getting there.

Grant has been on many playoff teams.

go cry some more damn, we are playing good and you still bitching

Come find me in 10 games

 

[Domihatin]

Come find me in 10 games

I'll jump in. Mediocre Man, what will you do if the Blazers win the next 10 games? Be honest.

 

[sheed30]

Winning the year after Aldridge left wasn't the problem - handing out massive contracts to all of Crabbe Turner Meyers that next summer was.

If we give Ant and Ayton big extensions this summer it will be a comparative failure.

This is were common sense comes in, you do realize that summer was the year the NBA media contract kicked in and the salary cap had a huge jump? Every single team had money to spend on free agents, so regardless on who it was, we needed to spent money.

thats how the Warriors signed KD due to the salary cap jump

Maybe complain that no big name ever signs as a free agent in Portland and thus we were forced to take what we could get?

 

[Mediocre Man]

How many superstars have the blazers drafted in the past 30 years with top picks?

Imagine if we tanked this year and didn’t even get a top 3 pick lol. That would be fun wouldn’t it?

your one of the posters that never has anything good to say

See, this is where most fans don't get it. You are right, of course, but it's not how many they HAVE drafted, it's how many thy COULD have drafted. It's about opportunity. They missed Wemby by one ping ball or number, or whatever. They could have drafted Durant at 1, but not at 3....etc.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I'll jump in. Mediocre Man, what will you do if the Blazers win the next 10 games? Be honest.

Completely admit I am a cuck and was wrong about this team. No problem. Now, What will you do if the team finishes with 10ish or so wins to close out the season?

 

[sheed30]

Come find me in 10 games

Find you in the same way you has told us about your inside sources news bits many times that never turned out? lol

Ofcourse we will come back down to earth, the fact is the team is growing, Scoot, Sharpe, Camara are getting better. Deni is only 23....when the youngsters have won us games this year you guys still complain lol.

There is no pleasing fans like yourself, sorry to say

 

[Domihatin]

Completely admit I am a cuck and was wrong about this team. No problem. Now, What will you do if the team finishes with 10ish or so wins to close out the season?

You really would? Would you root for wins and not losses at that point? They would be on a 16 game win streak and winning 20 of the last 21 games (going 20 and 1).

If it goes the other way? I would very shocked and if it was done intentionally, such as with fake injuries and giving halfway through a game like previously (and low effort), I would be pissed and stop watching them. I certainly wouldn't be happy and embrace tanking. I'll never agree with the lottery system and think it ruins the sport/league.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You really would? Would you root for wins and not losses at that point? They would be on a 16 game win streak and winning 20 of the last 21 games (going 20 and 1).

If it goes the other way? I would very shocked and if it was done intentionally, such as with fake injuries and giving halfway through a game like previously (and low effort), I would be pissed and stop watching them. I certainly wouldn't be happy and embrace tanking. I'll never agree with the lottery system and think it ruins the sport/league.

Sure. It's asinine, but yes

You didn't answer the question

 

[Mediocre Man]

Find you in the same way you has told us about your inside sources news bits many times that never turned out? lol

Ofcourse we will come back down to earth, the fact is the team is growing, Scoot, Sharpe, Camara are getting better. Deni is only 23....when the youngsters have won us games this year you guys still complain lol.

There is no pleasing fans like yourself, sorry to say

Love all of those guys. Too bad the Conductor has a double standard when it comes to his young guards and his old guard. Too bad Grant is awful. Too bad Ayton disappears night in and night out. Those are the guys that are getting the bulk of the minutes, and since they can't lead this team anywhere, I don't care about them or the teams success

Again, we both want wins, I just want them in the form of a title run, and you seem to be happy with meaningless ones

 

[SharpesTriumph]

How many superstars have the blazers drafted in the past 30 years with top picks?

Imagine if we tanked this year and didn’t even get a top 3 pick lol. That would be fun wouldn’t it?

your one of the posters that never has anything good to say

There's been 3 high lottery picks added rom the Blazers losing in the last 50 years:

LaMarcus, Martell Webster, and Greg Oden

 

[SharpesTriumph]

This is were common sense comes in, you do realize that summer was the year the NBA media contract kicked in and the salary cap had a huge jump? Every single team had money to spend on free agents, so regardless on who it was, we needed to spent money.

thats how the Warriors signed KD due to the salary cap jump

Maybe complain that no big name ever signs as a free agent in Portland and thus we were forced to take what we could get?

Your seriously are still defending the Olshey 2016 off-season?

LMAO

Yeah the Blazers "needed" to spend 75 million on Evan Turner over 4 years who promptly retired when the contract ended.

Some of the delusional homer fans on this site are hilarious.

 

[42N8Bounce]

So much is wrong with so many so-called fans in here. "Sob sob, sniff sniff, whaaaaa, why couldn't we have trades Simons and Ayton for actual GOOD player???"

News alert. Simons and Ayton ARE great players. It's actually rather comical to see people wanting to perpetually whine and complain and keep wanting to give up on players and grab new and start over again.

Have you even watched games? Do you see how they are playing? Did you see Anfernee last night? And you want to trade that? And it isn't a fluke performance or a one-off.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, but da grass is always greener elsewhere. The ASS of the wife is always tastier in the neighbor's yard. Why don't you realize the ass you already have in your wife is a FINE frickin' ass! Just clean her up, motivate her to whip her butt into shape, get her with the program of winning at life daily and it will be sweet looking AND tasting! Besides, if you trade out for what's on the other side of the fence? You'll find it has its flaws, too and needs work, so why make the moves?

I like this guy, @Domihatin . Passion. True fan. The games, and this board, are all about entertainment. Keep these takes coming.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Warriors signed Kevin Durant, so the Blazers "had" to give 4 year deals to Turner, Crabbe and Meyers.

Like the Blazers couldn't have used that cap space to get picks from another team, or just signed 1 year deals, or even worst case stayed under the minimum salary (zero penalties in those prior CBA)

Warriors get Durant so homer fans here think that justifies Olshey signing an injured Meyers for 4 years. Unbelievable lol

 

[inconceivable]

I think this attempt for the playoffs will set us back big time.

We will be overachievers but not a contender.

What we really need is to add quality draft asset.

Can you imagine
Scoot
Sharpe
Camara
Avdija
Ayton
Clingan
With Cooper Flagg?

 

[BIG Q]

I think this attempt for the playoffs will set us back big time.

We will be overachievers but not a contender.

What we really need is to add quality draft asset.

Can you imagine
Scoot
Sharpe
Camara
Avdija
Ayton
Clingan
With Cooper Flagg?

No, I can't imagine. The die has been cast. Fools Gold has won.

 

[Domihatin]

I think this attempt for the playoffs will set us back big time.

We will be overachievers but not a contender.

What we really need is to add quality draft asset.

Can you imagine
Scoot
Sharpe
Camara
Avdija
Ayton
Clingan
With Cooper Flagg?

Can you imagine them without him? You don't have to. You can see them playing right now without him. He's not needed. Stop looking at the what ifs and just look at what is. Support this team, not some player who isn't even on the team. F*** right off with the what about Cooper Flagg s***.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I think this attempt for the playoffs will set us back big time.

We will be overachievers but not a contender.

What we really need is to add quality draft asset.

Can you imagine
Scoot
Sharpe
Camara
Avdija
Ayton
Clingan
With Cooper Flagg?

The time for an action on this was from the day we traded Dame until the start of this season. For some bizarre reason Cronin decided to assemble this Ant Grant Ayton ~$100 million big3 instead.

At this point the ship has long sailed of the Blazers positioning for a top lotto pick.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Can you imagine them without him? You don't have to. You can see them playing right now without him. He's not needed.

Just a preference if you prefer to build a below .500 team fighting for the playin or a higher upside roster with championship potential.

To your point - Flagg won't be so the team so he's just not relevant to the Blazers future.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Completely admit I am a cuck and was wrong about this team. No problem. Now, What will you do if the team finishes with 10ish or so wins to close out the season?

Or make the playoffs and get swept in the first round. Costing us our draft pick.

 

[Domihatin]

Sure. It's asinine, but yes

You didn't answer the question

I certainly did answer the question, albeit with a typo. I said I would be shocked and continued on from there.

 

[Domihatin]

Or make the playoffs and get swept in the first round. Costing us our draft pick.

Oh noes, the draft pick, the draft pick!