White Americans Are Biggest Terror Threat in U.S.: Study

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Denny Crane said:
I think dviss1 misuses the term "racism" too much and the risk is "boy who called wolf."

That is, when there really is racism, nobody's going to believe him because he claims so much else and they end up being false alarms.

dviss1, I want you to consider MarAzul's post a while back. You asked him for an example of black vs. white racism. His example was his fear to go into certain neighborhoods for fear of his life. That may be a well founded fear, no?

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Meh. There is no neighborhood in Oregon where MarAzul would have to fear black people. The only reason why you hear me talk about racism is because you guys are too privileged to see it. Blue32 created the thread defending the police officer who assaulted the 15 year old girl in class. Need I say more?
 
dviss1 said:
Meh. There is no neighborhood in Oregon where MarAzul would have to fear black people. The only reason why you hear me talk about racism is because you guys are too privileged to see it. Blue32 created the thread defending the police officer who assaulted the 15 year old girl in class. Need I say more?
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I created the thread, and nowhere in there did I use race. I kept it strictly about the ACTIONS of both parties involved, and I still do stand by the Police in this instance. Race had nothing to do with that thread, when I created it, but as usual, you continue to further your race dividing agenda, by bringing race into it and making it a focal point of the topic.

Keep at it, you're doing a great job at dividing. Specially trying to use that post as evidence of me being racist.
 
blue32 said:
I created the thread, and nowhere in there did I use race. I kept it strictly about the ACTIONS of both parties involved, and I still do stand by the Police in this instance. Race had nothing to do with that thread, when I created it, but as usual, you continue to further your race dividing agenda, by bringing race into it and making it a focal point of the topic.

Keep at it, you're doing a great job at dividing. Specially trying to use that post as evidence of me being racist.
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I have never called you racist nor have assumed that. But you do get butt hurt when I talk about white people. If that was a little white girl in class acting like that the officer wouldn't have treated her that way and we both know it. Yet you will defend his actions to the end. I don't know man... your opinion is usually on the wrong side of the race issue...
 
dviss1 said:
Meh. There is no neighborhood in Oregon where MarAzul would have to fear black people. The only reason why you hear me talk about racism is because you guys are too privileged to see it. Blue32 created the thread defending the police officer who assaulted the 15 year old girl in class. Need I say more?
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I see it, but I also see a difference between racism and racial issues. When you conflate the two together as one, you dilute the meaning of racism and it surely makes people roll their eyes.

Oddly, the biggest source of racism is institutionalized and especially by government and you want more of it. Counter to your true interests.
 
Plenty of American terrorist sympathizers:

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http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-gee...le-applauding-the-planned-parenthood-shooter/
 
You can blame the gun or you can blame the person/group/ideology but you can't do both. It's amazing that liberals want to call this terrorism because it fits a different agenda.


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dviss1 said:
There is no neighborhood in Oregon where MarAzul would have to fear black people.
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Nice to hear!

I think it is true too! The story about Indy was more about prudence though, taking the Hotel clerks local advise, was more about avoiding a possible incident that would do no one any good, Black or White. Besides, I had a different reason for being in Indy than proving I was fearless or a fool.

And then there is the little legality of being able to walk about in any place I like, in Oregon, fully prepared to defend myself. That isn't often the case when you fly to another State where you simply must rely on the hospitality of the locals. But even in Oregon, it is best to avoid going where you might become part of a hassle with no gain to be had. Prudence say, don't needlessly risk an incident where you might have to do some dummy without profit.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You can blame the gun or you can blame the person/group/ideology but you can't do both. It's amazing that liberals want to call this terrorism because it fits a different agenda.


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It is terrorism if the guy was trying to discourage people from using or working for planned parenthood.

It's not terrorism when a guy shoots up a movie theater.
 
dviss1 said:
I posted this article because so many of you are so scared of the Syrian refugees coming to our country yet the real threat is young white boys who ain't getting any pussy who want to shoot up a school. But no they are mentally ill... Not terrorists...
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Hmm...well, the last guy who did that wasn't really "white". But yes, white people do engage in more random mass shootings. I'll grant you that. But the fact is, black people eclipse white people in all other forms of violence. Whether or not you label it "terrorism" doesn't really make matter in the scheme of things. But if you truly want to focus on "terrorism", then those school shootings don't apply because they have no agenda. Gang related shootings fit the defintion of terrorism more, since they are trying to instill fear in rival gangs, and have a social agenda.

And not to be rude, but I think the point you are trying to make here is ludicrous. Globally, Muslim Jihadi's have killed millions of people, and have engaged in genocide. To say they are not a "real threat" because white kids have shot their school mates doesn't make sense. It's also like saying white kids shooting their class mates isn't a problem, because Black people have killed hundreds of times more people that die in school shootings.

Using one crime to excuse another is just stupid.
 
Also Dviss, about the refugees, think about it this way: imagine that 100,000 white people from 1930's Alabama got stuck in a time warp and landed in modern day Nebraska. Many of them would be decent folk, but you know a whole lot would be active lynch-mob killing KKK members too. Say 20%. How would you feel about the government bringing 10,000 of them to your local neighborhood?
 
Denny Crane said:
It is terrorism if the guy was trying to discourage people from using or working for planned parenthood.

It's not terrorism when a guy shoots up a movie theater.
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I think the terrorism needs to be expanded because some people are using violence to gain notoriety and fame. They're using fear and violence to intimidate their peers and affect society and culture. Many of them are doing it intentionally with those purposes in mind. Terrorism is evolving with the internet and viral media. It's not just a guy with a bomb strapped to his chest trying to bomb cities in Israel anymore.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think the terrorism needs to be expanded because some people are using violence to gain notoriety and fame. They're using fear and violence to intimidate their peers and affect society and culture. Many of them are doing it intentionally with those purposes in mind. Terrorism is evolving with the internet and viral media. It's not just a guy with a bomb strapped to his chest trying to bomb cities in Israel anymore.
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Terrorism means what it means. Until Merriam-Webster changes the definition.

Glory seeking through mass murder isn't terrorism, it's insanity.
 
Denny Crane said:
Terrorism means what it means. Until Merriam-Webster changes the definition.

Glory seeking through mass murder isn't terrorism, it's insanity.
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Lots of things "meant what they meant" until they were changed. I think the definition needs to be expanded. That's my opinion.

There's domestic terrorism. There's international terrorism. I think there should be a social terrorism. We're currently dealing with cultural terrorism.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Lots of things "meant what they meant" until they were changed. I think the definition needs to be expanded. That's my opinion.

There's domestic terrorism. There's international terrorism. I think there should be a social terrorism. We're currently dealing with cultural terrorism.
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Let Merriam-Webster know your opinion.

Until it's changed, the example you used doesn't really show the liberals are incorrect about their usage of the word.
 
Stupid can't be fixed. Comments on the net about this subject scare me more than a middle aged paranoid white man with a gun.
 
Sinobas said:
Hmm...well, the last guy who did that wasn't really "white". But yes, white people do engage in more random mass shootings. I'll grant you that. But the fact is, black people eclipse white people in all other forms of violence. Whether or not you label it "terrorism" doesn't really make matter in the scheme of things. But if you truly want to focus on "terrorism", then those school shootings don't apply because they have no agenda. Gang related shootings fit the defintion of terrorism more, since they are trying to instill fear in rival gangs, and have a social agenda.

And not to be rude, but I think the point you are trying to make here is ludicrous. Globally, Muslim Jihadi's have killed millions of people, and have engaged in genocide. To say they are not a "real threat" because white kids have shot their school mates doesn't make sense. It's also like saying white kids shooting their class mates isn't a problem, because Black people have killed hundreds of times more people that die in school shootings.

Using one crime to excuse another is just stupid.
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Not sure what you're talking about but there's not one crime that I've ever excused. I simply said that we were talking about terrorism not gang violence. The only reason why you guys are bringing up gang violence is because it's black people that are doing it mostly. Now you want to try to define it as terrorism or expand the definition of terrorism. Gang violence has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think the terrorism needs to be expanded because some people are using violence to gain notoriety and fame. They're using fear and violence to intimidate their peers and affect society and culture. Many of them are doing it intentionally with those purposes in mind. Terrorism is evolving with the internet and viral media. It's not just a guy with a bomb strapped to his chest trying to bomb cities in Israel anymore.
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Or the white Christian blowing up the IRS building...
 
dviss1 said:
Not sure what you're talking about but there's not one crime that I've ever excused. I simply said that we were talking about terrorism not gang violence. The only reason why you guys are bringing up gang violence is because it's black people that are doing it mostly. Now you want to try to define it as terrorism or expand the definition of terrorism. Gang violence has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.
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I'll have to disagree with this dviss...gangs have been tools for terrorists even to just procure weapons or money by the IRA in Britain and rebels in Somalia and other countries in Africa for a long time. The IRA also profits from Irish gangs in the states. It's more political than folks think sometimes. Not always though
 
riverman said:
I'll have to disagree with this dviss...gangs have been tools for terrorists even to just procure weapons or money by the IRA in Britain and rebels in Somalia and other countries in Africa for a long time. The IRA also profits from Irish gangs in the states. It's more political than folks think sometimes. Not always though
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I'm specifically referring to black gangs in America. Those are usually person on person crimes with a vendetta against each other that has nothing to do with terrorizing others.
 
dviss1 said:
I'm specifically referring to black gangs in America. Those are usually person on person crimes with a vendetta against each other that has nothing to do with terrorizing others.
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Wrong. I was just reading a story the other day about how two gang members in Portland murdered the lesbian girlfriend of one of the exes. Nobody, including the girlfriend, would testify against them because they were terrified of the gang. The police had to force her to testify. They couldn't even charge the guys with full murder charges. They were just happy to get whatever they could against them.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/11/rage_over_new_lesbian_lover_ne.html

Prosecutor Brian Davidson, who handled the case, said his office agreed to a plea deal in part because Hill and Sanders are both members of the Hoovers gang, and gang-related cases are notoriously difficult to prosecute because witnesses often don't come forward out of fear of retaliation.
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Explain to me how that's not terrorizing others.
 
Dviss, why are the murder rates in black inner cities 10x higher than they are in places like Vermont? Is it because white people are inheirantly more violent?
 
Sinobas said:
Dviss, why are the murder rates in black inner cities 10x higher than they are in places like Vermont? Is it because white people are inheirantly more violent?
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I don't fucking live there so why don't you tell me.
 
Sinobas said:
Dviss, why are the murder rates in black inner cities 10x higher than they are in places like Vermont? Is it because white people are inheirantly more violent?
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Why was the murder rate higher in the coliseum where the gladiators were than outside?
 
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