White House Blaming Fox News For Picking The "Fight"

[ABM]

Oh, brother.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091018/ap_en_tv/us_tv_fox_vs_white_house

 

[Denny Crane]

As far as I can tell, this is what started the fight:

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And this might make you think:

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[MARIS61]

 

[Denny Crane]

You have to admit she's an embarrassment for the administration.

 

[Denny Crane]

Another embarrassing video:

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[huevonkiller]

She seems quite radical.

 

[Shooter]

To me, this is just another sign of the Obama administration's ignorance about the real world. You never come off looking good by attacking the media; it only makes you look like you have something to hide, and are pissed off because the media is revealing it.

 

[maxiep]

She's already announced she's leaving. She gets to set off a firestorm, galvanize support of the base, take the blame from the opponents and walk away.

It's actually great politics by the Obama Administration.

 

[barfo]

To me, this is just another sign of the Obama administration's ignorance about the real world. You never come off looking good by attacking the media; it only makes you look like you have something to hide, and are pissed off because the media is revealing it.

I guess the right wing would certainly know, since they spent so much of the past 8 years attacking the media. And, I guess it didn't make them look good. So yeah... you definitely have a point.

barfo

 

[Shooter]

I guess the right wing would certainly know, since they spent so much of the past 8 years attacking the media. And, I guess it didn't make them look good. So yeah... you definitely have a point.

We're not talking about the "right wing" or the "left wing." We're talking about the guy in the White House. Obama whining about FOX on the Sunday talk shows, and sending his people out to blast FOX, just makes him look thin-skinned. The Bush White House could have singled out the New York Times, or CNN, or MSNBC for their coverage of the Iraq War, but they wisely chose not to. THAT is the point.

Try to keep up, please.

 

[MrJayremmie]

It's actually great politics by the Obama Administration.

That is what I was thinking. You gotta look a little past the surface on certain things. Obama seems like an intelligent politician.

 

[barfo]

We're not talking about the "right wing" or the "left wing." We're talking about the guy in the White House. Obama whining about FOX on the Sunday talk shows, and sending his people out to blast FOX, just makes him look thin-skinned. The Bush White House could have singled out the New York Times, or CNN, or MSNBC for their coverage of the Iraq War, but they wisely chose not to. THAT is the point.

Try to keep up, please.

Yup, Bush never did anything like that.

An aide to President Bush sent a letter on Monday to the head of NBC News requesting a correction for what he deemed “deceitful editing” of an interview and complaining about the blurring of the lines between news on NBC and opinion on its cable news network MSNBC.

Seriously, who do you think is going to believe you? You cry about the media all the time, and now all of a sudden it's not ok because it is Obama instead of you/Bush?

barfo

 

[Shooter]

You cry about the media all the time, and now all of a sudden it's not ok because it is Obama instead of you/Bush?

And you think this is the same as Obama's Communications Director saying that FOX is nothing but "a wing of the Republican Party"???

 

[barfo]

And you think this is the same as Obama's Communications Director saying that FOX is nothing but "a wing of the Republican Party"???

Yes, I think the example I provided of a Bush aide doing essentially the same thing re: MSNBC is pretty relevant.

barfo

 

[Shooter]

Yes, I think the example I provided of a Bush aide doing essentially the same thing re: MSNBC is pretty relevant.

Yes, it's relevant, but it's not in the same class. The Bush administration never went after MSNBC the way the Obama administration is going after FOX.

 

[maxiep]

Yes, I think the example I provided of a Bush aide doing essentially the same thing re: MSNBC is pretty relevant.

barfo

I don't recall the Bush Administration boycotting either NBC or MSNBC. The President is not only refusing to appear on FOX, but the boycott stretches to the entire Administration.

There is not a single Obama Administration official who will appear on one of our major networks. It sets a terrible precident: Be critical of us and we'll punish you. I believe in a vigorous fourth estate as the Nation's watchdog. Their job is not to be cheerleader, but skeptic. We can all agree that the tone and tenor of the coverage by the major networks is 180 degrees from where it was with the previous administration, which signal's to me they've dropped the ball.

 

[Shooter]

We can all agree that the tone and tenor of the coverage by the major networks is 180 degrees from where it was with the previous administration, which signal's to me they've dropped the ball.

Ain't that the truth. Now that Obama is president, most of the media couldn't give a flip about the death toll in Iraq. In fact, you wouldn't even know there's a war going on over there. Also, the homeless rate is apparently higher than ever in New York City right now, but the media isn't playing that up, either, because it might make their boy Obama look bad.

 

[barfo]

I don't recall the Bush Administration boycotting either NBC or MSNBC. The President is not only refusing to appear on FOX, but the boycott stretches to the entire Administration.

You say refusing to appear on FOX like he's somehow supposed to. There's no requirement to give interviews to any network at all, much less Fox specifically.

There is not a single Obama Administration official who will appear on one of our major networks. It sets a terrible precident: Be critical of us and we'll punish you. I believe in a vigorous fourth estate as the Nation's watchdog. Their job is not to be cheerleader, but skeptic.

Agreed on that last point. On whether this sets a terrible precedent, it depends on whether Fox is guilty or innocent of the charges of bias.

We can all agree that the tone and tenor of the coverage by the major networks is 180 degrees from where it was with the previous administration, which signal's to me they've dropped the ball.

I gather you are including Fox in that assessment?

barfo

 

[Shooter]

You say refusing to appear on FOX like he's somehow supposed to. There's no requirement to give interviews to any network at all, much less Fox specifically.

It always amuses me how you can play dumb when it suits you. No, the president isn't technically "required" to appear on any network, but when he appears on every major network EXCEPT Fox, it's a little curious, don't you think?

 

[MARIS61]

You have to admit she's an embarrassment for the administration.

No, she's spot on with her comments.

Fox is an embarassment for our country. The world thinks we're all a bunch of racist hayseeds who blindly follow the treasonous lies it churns out.

 

[MARIS61]

Yes, it's relevant, but it's not in the same class. The Bush administration never went after MSNBC the way the Obama administration is going after FOX.

And the police won't go after the Balloon Boy's parents the way they went after the Hillside Strangler.

 

[MARIS61]

I don't recall the Bush Administration boycotting either NBC or MSNBC. The President is not only refusing to appear on FOX, but the boycott stretches to the entire Administration.

There is not a single Obama Administration official who will appear on one of our major networks. It sets a terrible precident: Be critical of us and we'll punish you. I believe in a vigorous fourth estate as the Nation's watchdog. Their job is not to be cheerleader, but skeptic. We can all agree that the tone and tenor of the coverage by the major networks is 180 degrees from where it was with the previous administration, which signal's to me they've dropped the ball.

Fox is not one of our major networks anymore than TCM or Food Network are. They provide entertainment, and a base of dis-information for the less intelligent sector of right-wing voting drones, and nothing more.

To imply they provide any factual, useful, un-biased reporting of actual events/news is ridiculous. If they are a news station then Bin Laden heads up the Red Cross.

BTW, next time you post a video try watching it first. She clearly states several times Obama has been on Fox and will go on Fox again.

As for Bush, I don't recall him ever going on any network at all. He pretty much kept us all in the dark during his 8 years of treason.

 

[maxiep]

You say refusing to appear on FOX like he's somehow supposed to. There's no requirement to give interviews to any network at all, much less Fox specifically.

I think he's supposed to. There's a difference between "supposed" and "required". I personally believe that our government should answer to the people. Part of answering to the people is appearing and communicating with the major media outlets, as those have the most viewers/readers. I thought our new President was going to end the partisan divide; instead, he's only deepened it.

Agreed on that last point. On whether this sets a terrible precedent, it depends on whether Fox is guilty or innocent of the charges of bias.

I think it's fair to say that the editorial shows are all biased, be they FOX, MSNBC or CNN. I think FOX News is pretty fair minded.

I gather you are including Fox in that assessment?

barfo

I was, but was talking from a global perspective, as you could have clearly surmised. Just as I thought FOX was the only channel being even remotely fair to President Bush (with ABC a close second), I now think the Fourth Estate is bending over backward not to be critical of President Obama. I don't know if they're afraid to criticize him because of his race, but FOX is standing out because they're the only channel that dares to be at all critical.

 

[maxiep]

Fox is not one of our major networks anymore than TCM or Food Network are. They provide entertainment, and a base of dis-information for the less intelligent sector of right-wing voting drones, and nothing more.

FOX is a major network. I know you don't like it, but they have joined the ranks of ABC, NBC and CBS. They have the NFL and MLB. They have shows that are considered the equal of the three networks, e.g. The Simpsons. Their Sunday news progam is considered to be the equal of Meet The Press, This Week and Face The Nation.

To imply they provide any factual, useful, un-biased reporting of actual events/news is ridiculous. If they are a news station then Bin Laden heads up the Red Cross.

Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance for all to see. It saved me the trouble of doing it myself.

BTW, next time you post a video try watching it first. She clearly states several times Obama has been on Fox and will go on Fox again.

And there's your problem; you believe everything you see or read that fits with your worldview. When pressed on that statement, FOX News was told point-blank that the schedules for the Administration were currently "full" and would remain so through 2009 and into 2010.

As for Bush, I don't recall him ever going on any network at all. He pretty much kept us all in the dark during his 8 years of treason.

Once again, don't blame everyone else for your ignorance. He appeared in interviews with every major network in his time in office.