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It's big. Really big. I think we can start by simply listening and caring.

We can also start with the fact that there is a system of oppression that exists and whites are privileged to be the purveyors of that system.

The only way to solve it is first acknowledge that the privilege exists.

Ask your friends this question:



She's the one who doesn't understand the question, having led a sheltered life among a homogenized higher-education elite community where personal responsibility is seldom mentioned and never demanded.

I would not stand, because I would never want my actions and behavior to be excused by society just because I was a supposed oppressed minority. It is the current vehicle used by "intellectual elites" to keep racism alive.
 
Do you know the first time I experienced overt racism I was 6?

They taught me. Ever seen Roots? Glory? Regular American discourse taught me.

Hollywood? Seriously? That was your educational system? There's nothing Regular OR American about Hollywood.

I had parents and other close relatives who taught me personal responsibility and the importance of defending the oppressed and bullied wherever I found them, but more importantly they taught me to think for myself and to investigate and educate myself.

I've had a couple teachers who taught me the basics of recognizing propaganda and misinformation, and how to discern the motives behind it.

Never in my life have I embraced "American Discourse" (Hollywood, Fake News) as an educational tool.
 
Hollywood? Seriously? That was your educational system? There's nothing Regular OR American about Hollywood.

I had parents and other close relatives who taught me personal responsibility and the importance of defending the oppressed and bullied wherever I found them, but more importantly they taught me to think for myself and to investigate and educate myself.

I've had a couple teachers who taught me the basics of recognizing propaganda and misinformation, and how to discern the motives behind it.

Never in my life have I embraced "American Discourse" (Hollywood, Fake News) as an educational tool.

So you just glossed over that whole I first experienced overt racism as a 6 year old part....

Of course you did...
 
She's the one who doesn't understand the question, having led a sheltered life among a homogenized higher-education elite community where personal responsibility is seldom mentioned and never demanded.

I would not stand, because I would never want my actions and behavior to be excused by society just because I was a supposed oppressed minority. It is the current vehicle used by "intellectual elites" to keep racism alive.

One of your most STUPID posts.

Seriously...
 
We also made Santa Claus white.... and the Easter Bunny..... and the Tooth Fairy....... but you know what else they have in common?


They aren't real.

People don't worship and have a whole belief system around them either. It's a bit disingenuous to lump them together like that.

Don't cop out.

Furthermore, I believe Jesus was a real human. Hell, he could have had powers too.
 
I believe Jesus was a real human.

My ass!

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People don't worship and have a whole belief system around them either. It's a bit disingenuous to lump them together like that.

Don't cop out.

Furthermore, I believe Jesus was a real human. Hell, he could have had powers too.

We'll never know because the Catholics twisted and corrupted his story for power and money.
 
Who the F is “proud to be white”? Maybe you’re proud to be German or Italian or Dutch (me), but white? Shouldn’t pride be about your accomplishments or your heritage and the country you came from?

Now...if you think about it, and what black people have been through and STILL go through they have reason to be proud of being black. Maybe I’m wrong but it makes sense to me. Proud to be white? Why? What did white people have to overcome because of their whiteness?
 
Wouldn't it be more correct just to rename it White Assholeism?
 
We'll never know because the Catholics twisted and corrupted his story for power and money.

Yeah... There's a book of Judas and one of Mary Magdalene too...

Why are they left out of the bible?
 
Who the F is “proud to be white”? Maybe you’re proud to be German or Italian or Dutch (me), but white? Shouldn’t pride be about your accomplishments or your heritage and the country you came from?

Now...if you think about it, and what black people have been through and STILL go through they have reason to be proud of being black. Maybe I’m wrong but it makes sense to me. Proud to be white? Why? What did white people have to overcome because of their whiteness?

Yes yes yes yes.... Jesus... YES...
 
Yeah... There's a book of Judas and one of Mary Magdalene too...

Why are they left out of the bible?

Because organized religion is evil. This is the part that I don't understand about you D.... you talk about white imperialism and such, but the Bible and Catholicism was the most prolific weapon of that imperialism. The Spanish murdered millions of natives in the Americas and it was all under the Christian banner. Religion has always been used to control the population. Egypt, Greece, Rome, England, etc etc etc.

Religion = bad.

I believe that there's something out there. I'm spiritual to a point, but I refuse to believe that there's an all-powerful being that is pulling our puppet strings. And I refuse to believe anything that comes from a bunch of old white dudes who want my money and my support.
 
How about this: white nationalism - the desperate fear that other men have a bigger penis than you do.
Fact: NOBODY has a bigger penis than me!

Oh, you should see the size of my hands, not tiny like Trumps but massive.
 
Hollywood? Seriously? That was your educational system? There's nothing Regular OR American about Hollywood.

I had parents and other close relatives who taught me personal responsibility and the importance of defending the oppressed and bullied wherever I found them, but more importantly they taught me to think for myself and to investigate and educate myself.

I've had a couple teachers who taught me the basics of recognizing propaganda and misinformation, and how to discern the motives behind it.

Never in my life have I embraced "American Discourse" (Hollywood, Fake News) as an educational tool.
Ronald Reagan was a product of Hollywood.
The Grapes of Wrath was from Hollywood.
Gone With the Wind.
Charlton Heston was a product of Hollywood.
James Bond was a product of Hollywood, God Dammit.
 
There's a reason universities accept people from a diverse group. They feel that creativity is enhanced by a diverse population with diverse views and backgrounds. This is actually very logical.

In theory, but then we see any kind of conservative speaker or viewpoint is shouted down and/or denied entry to campuses.

There's no such thing as diverse views in college. There's the liberal view and that's it.
 
In theory, but then we see any kind of conservative speaker or viewpoint is shouted down and/or denied entry to campuses.

There's no such thing as diverse views in college. There's the liberal view and that's it.
I don't see the connection.
 
Plenty. The word racism was never used. It's a complete whitewash of what white nationalism really is.I

It's utter bullshit.
Wikipedia doesn't publish opinion pieces bro. Besides, everything they mentioned very obviously equates to racism. They're not just gonna pound the keyboard in all caps and say RACIST!!!
 
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Because organized religion is evil. This is the part that I don't understand about you D.... you talk about white imperialism and such, but the Bible and Catholicism was the most prolific weapon of that imperialism. The Spanish murdered millions of natives in the Americas and it was all under the Christian banner. Religion has always been used to control the population. Egypt, Greece, Rome, England, etc etc etc.

Religion = bad.

I believe that there's something out there. I'm spiritual to a point, but I refuse to believe that there's an all-powerful being that is pulling our puppet strings. And I refuse to believe anything that comes from a bunch of old white dudes who want my money and my support.

What don't you get? I detest religion.

White people handed us a book that told slaves to be obedient to their masters. Those slave masters were Christians...

Again, what don't you get?
 
Wikipedia doesn't publish opinion pieces bro. Besides, everything they mentioned very obviously equates to racism. They're not just gonna pound the keyboard in all caps and say RACIST!!!

Just because you don't want to talk about it doesn't mean we don't or won't.
 
In theory, but then we see any kind of conservative speaker or viewpoint is shouted down and/or denied entry to campuses.

There's no such thing as diverse views in college. There's the liberal view and that's it.

Stop Nate. This is just bullshit. Conservatives speak at colleges all the time. They give commencement speeches and all that. It's the racist ones like Milo Yiannopoulos that are denied entry. If most of the students don't want him there, why the fuck should he get a platform?

Your blanket statements are simply wrong.
 
I remember when it was THE AMERICAN WAY to punch a fucking Nazi in the face!!

Now we got a racist president with Nazi supporters, who touts his German genes...

This country has gone to shit....
 
I just want people to own up that there is bigotry and hatred from all races, and it will not stop until everyone starts thinking of themselves as people and not colors. There shouldn't be any kind of racial pride. I think it's fine to be proud of your heritage, but my heritage involves countries. It doesn't need to involve the color of my skin. Just as any black person can be proud of being British or any white person can be proud of being African. I just don't think this will stop until we stop looking at people as colors. Period. All of them. Across the board. If all the best students are Asian, then let in all the Asians who apply. Period.


There are a couple differences between someone of British heritage and that of one who comes from a people who has experienced extreme racism.

1) I am Jewish. I do not have a country of heritage. We have been kicked out of nation after nation, enslaved, killed, relegated to the lowest levels of society. So just cause my grandma came from Poland or Austria or Wherever doesn’t mean I have or want any claim of membership or pride in that land. Yet I still want to be proud of my heritage.

Likewise, many African Americans have come from a continent but don’t know from exactly where. They do not have that same affiliation with their motherland as you may have with yours.

2) it can be very helpful and inspirational to share that bond with others who have seen the same degradation and vile racism that you have. I am Ashkenazi Jew. That’s a genetic group of Jews who were mostly the ones persecuted by the Nazi’s. I do find pride and love in our shared history. Likewise blacks who suffered terribly over the years can find companionship and love from those who share their history. And taking pride in what they were vilified for (skin tone) is part of heeling.

I do agree with you that color is not a good measure of character. But taking pride in the feature that caused so much pain is part of overcoming that pain and uplifting others who have also been marred by centuries of being told they are lowly and unworthy.



The problem comes more in thinking that your genetic disposition elevates you as better than anyone else. I can be proud of being an Ashkenazi but not think that’s better than Italian, Black, Japanese or Swedish. White pride could theoretically have a similar egalitarian view but there is no core white culture from suffering and upheaval to drive a collective character. Instead, showing white pride is virtually unanimously intertwined with thinking other groups and races are inferior.




P.S. I wrote this post yesterday but forgot to post it. All these issues may have been discussed already, I have not had a chance to read most of this thread.
 
I remember when it was THE AMERICAN WAY to punch a fucking Nazi in the face!!

Now we got a racist president with Nazi supporters, who touts his German genes...

This country has gone to shit....

I was thinking about this the other day. These ultra-patriotic types, who fly the American flag out the back of the truck, who call themselves Patriots and all that...they are "proud to be Americans". Ok. Let's go with that. Do they think America was pro-Hitler? Do they think Americans didn't fight to stop Hitler? How can you be all about America and then also be all about being a racist? Have they not heard of the US being the "melting pot"? Do they not like that part of America? Phonies.

Its all such a bunch of hypocrisy it drives me crazy.
 
There are a couple differences between someone of British heritage and that of one who comes from a people who has experienced extreme racism.

1) I am Jewish. I do not have a country of heritage. We have been kicked out of nation after nation, enslaved, killed, relegated to the lowest levels of society. So just cause my grandma came from Poland or Austria or Wherever doesn’t mean I have or want any claim of membership or pride in that land. Yet I still want to be proud of my heritage.

Likewise, many African Americans have come from a continent but don’t know from exactly where. They do not have that same affiliation with their motherland as you may have with yours.

2) it can be very helpful and inspirational to share that bond with others who have seen the same degradation and vile racism that you have. I am Ashkenazi Jew. That’s a genetic group of Jews who were mostly the ones persecuted by the Nazi’s. I do find pride and love in our shared history. Likewise blacks who suffered terribly over the years can find companionship and love from those who share their history. And taking pride in what they were vilified for (skin tone) is part of heeling.

I do agree with you that color is not a good measure of character. But taking pride in the feature that caused so much pain is part of overcoming that pain and uplifting others who have also been marred by centuries of being told they are lowly and unworthy.



The problem comes more in thinking that your genetic disposition elevates you as better than anyone else. I can be proud of being an Ashkenazi but not think that’s better than Italian, Black, Japanese or Swedish. White pride could theoretically have a similar egalitarian view but there is no core white culture from suffering and upheaval to drive a collective character. Instead, showing white pride is virtually unanimously intertwined with thinking other groups and races are inferior.




P.S. I wrote this post yesterday but forgot to post it. All these issues may have been discussed already, I have not had a chance to read most of this thread.

Very well said. Makes total sense. Anyone who disagrees with this needs to have someone explain it to them until they understand it.
 
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