White Privilege at its Finest

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Ya wanna know something else that might be white privilege? I've noticed for a good while that tons of McDonald's commercials feature entirely black actors.

If that sticks out to me like a sore thumb it would be weird to see what it has been like for black people all these years.

That's as far as I wanna go by the way, I just want to experience weird tv.....no more.
 
Let me make this perfectly clear.

If a person drags an unconscious, unresponsive person outside, behind a dumpster, pulls off most of his/her clothing and the person does not speak/move/react, he/she is incapacitated.
 
crandc said:
Let me make this perfectly clear.

If a person drags an unconscious, unresponsive person outside, behind a dumpster, pulls off most of his/her clothing and the person does not speak/move/react, he/she is incapacitated.
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Nobody (except @EL PRESIDENTE, who doesn't really count) is disputing the facts of this particular case. The questions regarding the topic in general, however, remain relevant.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Nobody (except @EL PRESIDENTE, who doesn't really count) is disputing the facts of this particular case. The questions regarding the topic in general, however, remain relevant.
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Im the only one who is giving an accurate reflection of this incident. There was no rape there is no rapist. Its not 6 months for rape its 6 months for fingering a drunk girl who can't recall anything.

This is the media creating an outrage based on falsehoods and sensationalism.

This is not white privlege this isnt rape culture. They got drunk, hooked up and the girl passed out.
 
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Im the only one who is giving an accurate reflection of this incident. There was no rape there is no rapist. Its not 6 months for rape its 6 months for fingering a drunk girl who can't recall anything.

This is the media creating an outrage based on falsehoods and sensationalism.

This is not white privlege this isnt rape culture. They got drunk, hooked up and the girl passed out.
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So why did he run? And why was he thrusting his hips against her while she was unconscious?
 
Sedatedfork said:
So why did he run? And why was he thrusting his hips against her while she was unconscious?
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Running is not rape nor is dry humping someone.

He ran because it was dark and two guys chased him or approached him
 
OK, Portland Platypus. Here's a good rule to live by:
If you are not sure someone is consenting, assume not.

In the course of a long and sometimes mis-spent life, I have never doubted consent. Not mine, not the other person's.

Incidentally, the rapist's best bud has joined his father in condemning the conviction. He claimed the felony conviction was just "political correctness" (of course! PC is such a meaningless term, you can apply it to anything and everything you don't like) and, incredibly, that just because there was a rape doesn't mean that he was a rapist. How you have a rape with no rapist is beyond the power of my little lady brain to comprehend.
 
crandc said:
OK, Portland Platypus. Here's a good rule to live by:
If you are not sure someone is consenting, assume not.

In the course of a long and sometimes mis-spent life, I have never doubted consent. Not mine, not the other person's.

Incidentally, the rapist's best bud has joined his father in condemning the conviction. He claimed the felony conviction was just "political correctness" (of course! PC is such a meaningless term, you can apply it to anything and everything you don't like) and, incredibly, that just because there was a rape doesn't mean that he was a rapist. How you have a rape with no rapist is beyond the power of my little lady brain to comprehend.
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The thing that gets me is that he couldn't get it going somehow means he wasn't going to rape her.
 
crandc said:
If a person is incapable of giving or withholding consent. It's really not difficult. Is the person awake and aware or not? It is only tough if you are trying to make excuses for rape.
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You clearly haven't been following the trend.

You yourself admitted that you have experienced sexual encounters where you were intoxicated, and by the next morning you were regretful for the experience.

By the new definitions of rape, you could turn around and claim that you were drunk and did not give consent. The DA said as much. Drunk means no. What constitutes drunk? That was what Plat was talking about. He's not even talking about the original case anymore. He's talking about the role of alcohol in determining consent.

Plat's point was: what constitutes "drunk" by the definition that the DA put forth? If both parties are drunk, can one later change their mind and say that they did not give consent? Could you have turned around in the morning and decided that you did not give consent in those experiences where you regretted your actions the next morning?
 
Natebishop3 said:
and admit that you don't like white male Christians. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that.....
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Can you read? Or do only the words that fit your narrative enter your brain??

Thanks for admitting you didn't really read my post

dviss1 said:
So yeah, fuck white male Christian racists. Fuck people who don't understand their white privilege and pretend like it doesn't exist. They get on my fucking nerves too. As much as you complain about it, the bottom line is, you will never experience racism like I have.

Let me ask you this while not knowing your stance on allowing refugees into this country:

Does it make sense to you that the fear an anti-refugee person has with regard to one of them possibly being a terrorist is the same fear that black people have when we are pulled over by police and we don't know that one of them could be a murderer?

It's literally a type of PTSD IMHO.

I don't fear my son getting a girl pregnant, getting hooked on drugs, failing in school, or anything like that. I fear he will be treated less than human because his lips are as thick as mine and his nose is as wide as his Papa's.

You have no concept of this fear or do you?
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So yeah. Fuck them. Again, you must not have read my post. Otherwise you wouldn't be inadvertently defending white male Christian racists.

And you didn't answer my questions. Wanna give it a shot? :dunno:

Also, no one said you think racism doesn't exist (reading really is fundamental).

I said you don't think white privilege exists. Which is true. You get pissed every time it's mentioned.

Probably the reason you didn't answer my questions...
 
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bodyman5000 and 1 said:
As the discussion has shown there are more facets to this story than just race. So this might not be the best case to discuss something that is clearly real.

Besides, white privilege at its finest is when I go to Hoover Dam and the security officers just wave me through while I watch them search a car full of brown people.
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Glad you understand.
 
Natebishop3 said:
And what you don't seem to understand about this story is that it's not about the color white. It's about the color green. If you have money, you get off. OJ Simpson? Kobe Bryant? Rich people, regardless of color, get away with shit.

Stop hating the white man and start hating the green man.
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Muhammed Ali came back from beating the communists in the Olympics. While wearing his medal he goes to eat downtown. He was told we don't serve niggers. That's when he fully understood how fucked this country is to black folk.

OJ is broke and in prison.

Kobe settled out of court.

What happened to Wesley Snipes? What happened to Tyson for his 3 am booty call? What happened to Tupac? You don't really believe he sexually abused her do you? It's Pac! He always professed his innocence. It could've happened but I don't believe it. What happened to TI? Prison. What happened to Lauren Hill? Lil Kim? Money didn't help her. Money didn't help Da Brat. She got 3 years for assault. Brock got less time than her.

Again what really happened to OJ? It wasn't money that got him off. A racist officer planting "evidence" was the reason. And where is he again? Yeah...

Rich black people go to prison way more than rich whites:

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So while it's easy for privileged folk to say dumb shit like it's not about black and white it's about green...

Makes a good bumper sticker but that's all.
 
So confused. They say we all got some racism in us. I've always felt like "F*** racists!" So I feel like I have to say that to everyone on S2.

And I feel like we should say the same to sexists. So "F*** sexists!" Which I also feel like I have to say that to everyone on S2.

Then, without a doubt, I feel like I gotta say, "F*** the rapists!" And then I'm like, I gotta say that to those that to half of S2, cuz I'm feeling like half of you side with this college douchebag. Look, the girl played a part in this story. I have no doubt. But there's a part where you just gotta be like, "Say what you want about this chick, but something ain't right."

Maybe I'd feel differently if dude's dad wasn't such a douche and he tried to be reasonable and sympathetic, but if you really paid attention to what he had to say, I struggle to feel that the kid wasn't crossing boundaries. I feel like dad is almost a bigger villain here than anyone. Dad makes me feel like kid is trying to explain away something more here.

Flame away.
 
dviss1 said:
Muhammed Ali came back from beating the communists in the Olympics. While wearing his medal he goes to eat downtown. He was told we don't serve niggers. That's when he fully understood how fucked this country is to black folk.

OJ is broke and in prison.

Kobe settled out of court.

What happened to Wesley Snipes? What happened to Tyson for his 3 am booty call? What happened to Tupac? You don't really believe he sexually abused her do you? It's Pac! He always professed his innocence. It could've happened but I don't believe it. What happened to TI? Prison. What happened to Lauren Hill? Lil Kim? Money didn't help her. Money didn't help Da Brat. She got 3 years for assault. Brock got less time than her.

Again what really happened to OJ? It wasn't money that got him off. A racist officer planting "evidence" was the reason. And where is he again? Yeah...

Rich black people go to prison way more than rich whites:

rich34.jpg


So while it's easy for privileged folk to say dumb shit like it's not about black and white it's about green...

Makes a good bumper sticker but that's all.
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You had me on this. Until you said it was the racist cop. Don't tell me that, ultimately, it wasn't money that saved OJ. Blame the racist cop, sure, but come on, how many black dudes didn't get off despite the racist cop? It was the money.

People continually blame the racist cop(s) for all the time dudes didn't get off. Can't have it both ways. It was the money.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
You had me on this. Until you said it was the racist cop. Don't tell me that, ultimately, it wasn't money that saved OJ. Blame the racist cop, sure, but come on, how many black dudes didn't get off despite the racist cop? It was the money.

People continually blame the racist cop(s) for all the time dudes didn't get off. Can't have it both ways. It was the money.
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Bro. If the glove don't fit... you know the rest. That's is singlehandedly the reason he got off.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
So confused. They say we all got some racism in us. I've always felt like "F*** racists!" So I feel like I have to say that to everyone on S2.

And I feel like we should say the same to sexists. So "F*** sexists!" Which I also feel like I have to say that to everyone on S2.

Then, without a doubt, I feel like I gotta say, "F*** the rapists!" And then I'm like, I gotta say that to those that to half of S2, cuz I'm feeling like half of you side with this college douchebag. Look, the girl played a part in this story. I have no doubt. But there's a part where you just gotta be like, "Say what you want about this chick, but something ain't right."

Maybe I'd feel differently if dude's dad wasn't such a douche and he tried to be reasonable and sympathetic, but if you really paid attention to what he had to say, I struggle to feel that the kid wasn't crossing boundaries. I feel like dad is almost a bigger villain here than anyone. Dad makes me feel like kid is trying to explain away something more here.

Flame away.
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Bro. Please. Watch the video I posted earlier. It's her letter to him.
 
If you think racism got OJ off, this is where I question your sanity.

Believe me, I don't dispute the pervasiveness and expanse of racism, but if you think racism got OJ off, you're way off base.
 
dviss1 said:
Bro. Please. Watch the video I posted earlier. It's her letter to him.
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"Bro." "Please." Think you missed what I'm saying. Agree mostly with what you've been saying through several of these "controversial" topics but it's like you get so worked up about it and set in your viewpoint, if it ain't 100% what you're saying, you get shut off and downright defensive.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
You had me on this. Until you said it was the racist cop. Don't tell me that, ultimately, it wasn't money that saved OJ. Blame the racist cop, sure, but come on, how many black dudes didn't get off despite the racist cop? It was the money.

People continually blame the racist cop(s) for all the time dudes didn't get off. Can't have it both ways. It was the money.
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Mark Fuhrman

"In 1995, Fuhrman was called to testify regarding his discovery of evidence in the O.J. Simpson case, including a bloody glove recovered at Simpson's estate. Fuhrman was known to have used a racist epithet towardAfrican-Americans during the early 1980s, but claimed on the stand that he had not used that term in the last ten years. Simpson's defense team produced recorded interviews with Fuhrman and witnesses documenting that he had repeatedly used racist language during this period."
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
"Bro." "Please." Think you missed what I'm saying. Agree mostly with what you've been saying through several of these "controversial" topics but it's like you get so worked up about it and set in your viewpoint, if it ain't 100% what you're saying, you get shut off and downright defensive.
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No you truly misunderstood me. I know you agree. You could not hear my voice inflection. I was simply asking you very nicely to take abt 20 mins and watch the video.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
If you think racism got OJ off, this is where I question your sanity.

Believe me, I don't dispute the pervasiveness and expanse of racism, but if you think racism got OJ off, you're way off base.
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Jesus dude. Y'all don't read or have bad reading comprehension. I never said racism got oj off.... Fucking read....

dviss1 said:
Bro. If the glove don't fit... you know the rest. That's is singlehandedly the reason he got off.
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WTF is wrong with y'all this morning?
 
dviss1 said:
Mark Fuhrman

"In 1995, Fuhrman was called to testify regarding his discovery of evidence in the O.J. Simpson case, including a bloody glove recovered at Simpson's estate. Fuhrman was known to have used a racist epithet towardAfrican-Americans during the early 1980s, but claimed on the stand that he had not used that term in the last ten years. Simpson's defense team produced recorded interviews with Fuhrman and witnesses documenting that he had repeatedly used racist language during this period."
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If racism got OJ off, what about the how many thousands that didn't get off? Prominent, wealthy black folk readily admit OJ got off for his celebrity. One minute, racism cuts down how many average joes, the next minute OJ gets off thanks to racism? I'm shocked anyone thinks it's anything but money.

Don't get me wrong. We have proof they're racist. But you (not you specifically) say they're not racist in one breath (Rodney King) and say they're racist in the next (OJ). Very different outcomes. They're very racist. Money got one off, lack of money/wealth/fam hindered the other.
 
dviss1 said:
Jesus dude. Y'all don't read or have bad reading comprehension. I never said racism got oj off.... Fucking read....



WTF is wrong with y'all this morning?
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Your words: Again what really happened to OJ? It wasn't money that got him off. A racist officer planting "evidence" was the reason.

Two very different meanings in all of that with the use of "racist" versus excluding the word there. VERY different implications. I know you're smart enough to really understand that. Exclude "racist" in your implications and there's nothing to discuss.
 
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