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It was funny I was watching the verdict in the dorms with some crackaz and they were pissed and I was celebrating freeing the juice. just like that family guy skit
 
If racism got OJ off, what about the how many thousands that didn't get off? Prominent, wealthy black folk readily admit OJ got off for his celebrity. One minute, racism cuts down how many average joes, the next minute OJ gets off thanks to racism? I'm shocked anyone thinks it's anything but money.

Don't get me wrong. We have proof they're racist. But you (not you specifically) say they're not racist in one breath (Rodney King) and say they're racist in the next (OJ). Very different outcomes. They're very racist. Money got one off, lack of money/wealth/fam hindered the other.

I'm done with you on this. You're not reading my posts. I CLEARLY stated earlier that the glove not fitting is "singlehandedly" the reason. But go ahead wasting the energy in your fingers typing that...
 
Your words: Again what really happened to OJ? It wasn't money that got him off. A racist officer planting "evidence" was the reason.

Two very different meanings in all of that with the use of "racist" versus excluding the word there. VERY different implications. I know you're smart enough to really understand that. Exclude "racist" in your implications and there's nothing to discuss.

The reason the officer planted the evidence is because he was racist. It was however, the glove that was the reason why he got off was it not? So however you want to parse it.
 
I'm done with you on this. You're not reading my posts. I CLEARLY stated earlier that the glove not fitting is "singlehandedly" the reason. But go ahead wasting the energy in your fingers typing that...

Money talks, bullshit walks.

Google the numerous stories about it. If the glove alone got OJ off... One piece in a myriad of mistakes a dream team (made of money) was able to back the DA into. I have more insight into this case than the average person would (for reasons I don't care to disclose publicly). They knew OJ would walk.

Suspects have less against them in many cases (or more when they are plaintiffs - Hello, Rodney). Money is a big key when battling LAPD.
 
Two very different meanings in all of that with the use of "racist" versus excluding the word there. VERY different implications. I know you're smart enough to really understand that. Exclude "racist" in your implications and there's nothing to discuss.

Why do I need to exclude the word? It's true Mark Fuhrman was racist. I just provided proof above. He's still got off because the police planted the glove. Not because he had money. He got off because the police were faulty planting fake evidence.. Everybody knows this. Everybody also knows that Mark Fuhrman was racist. The racist planted evidence. There is no disputing this. If you want to sit here and say that I'm saying racism got him off because a racist is the one who planted the evidence, well then whatever. You're parsing.
 
Why were all four officers in the Rodney King trial acquitted?

Because they were white? Fuck if I know. They shouldn't have. The force was clearly excessive. They should be under the prison.
 
Money talks, bullshit walks.

Google the numerous stories about it. If the glove alone got OJ off... One piece in a myriad of mistakes a dream team (made of money) was able to back the DA into. I have more insight into this case than the average person would (for reasons I don't care to disclose publicly). They knew OJ would walk.

Suspects have less against them in many cases (or more when they are plaintiffs - Hello, Rodney). Money is a big key when battling LAPD.

Sure. If you have money then an innocent black man can get off. Cue The Crazies... I personally don't believe OJ did it. It was his son Jason in my honest opinion. People can say that they know but the truth is nobody does.
 
Because they were white? Fuck if I know. They shouldn't have. The force was clearly excessive. They should be under the prison.

Rodney was a poor, beaten down truck driver.

OJ was a national sports hero with deep pockets and the love of a nation. I remember being in 8th grade, watching his acquittal, hoping for it in the moments leading up. I wasn't the only one. I watched his Bronco tour. I was hoping for his innocence then.

It wasn't the glove, my man.
 
Rodney was a poor, beaten down truck driver.

OJ was a national sports hero with deep pockets and the love of a nation. I remember being in 8th grade, watching his acquittal, hoping for it in the moments leading up. I wasn't the only one. I watched his Bronco tour. I was hoping for his innocence then.

It wasn't the glove, my man.

I watched the whole trial. It was the glove. The key statement that Johnnie Cochran said and you know it:

"If the glove don't fit, you got to acquit."

You really like to parse things don't you?

Did money have something to do with OJ getting off? Sure. Johnnie Cochran cost a grip. So just like money helped him get off, so did a racist planning faulty evidence that was exposed in litigation.
 
As an aside, do you really think Jason did it? Not debating. Studied criminal justice in college and spend a lot of time watching the iD channel. So I'm always interested in true crime stuff.
 
I watched the whole trial. It was the glove. The key statement that Johnnie Cochran said and you know it:

"If the glove don't fit, you got to acquit."

You really like to parse things don't you?

Did money have something to do with OJ getting off? Sure. Johnnie Cochran cost a grip. So just like money helped him get off, so did a racist planning faulty evidence that was exposed in litigation.

So wait... The glove got him off? (Again, let's avoid jokes here, S2.) Or, money, racism, and the glove?
 
I would also bet dollars to Donuts that if Mark Fuhrman didn't plant the faulty evidence that OJ may have been convicted. The world will never know. And it doesn't matter. Know why? Because for some reason in this country you can get off in a criminal trial but you can be sued civilly for basically the same shit. So @BLAZINGGIANTS:

  1. What happened during the Civil proceedings?
  2. Where is OJ now?
 
So wait... The glove got him off? (Again, let's avoid jokes here, S2.) Or, money, racism, and the glove?

All 3 had a hand. But racism or not, without the planting of faulty evidence we don't know how the trial would have ended. It was the faulty evidence that was the end-all-be-all.
 
So wait... The glove got him off? (Again, let's avoid jokes here, S2.) Or, money, racism, and the glove?

There's no reason to make a joke. You're the parsing King. Just like El Presidente was parsing rape earlier...
 
1. Civil is 50/50. The glove didn't get him off.

2. OJ was found guilty of a situation that had too much evidence. After money got him out of the first situation that the public court of opinion convicted him of. The glove didn't get him off this time, I guess.

Money can't get you out of everything. Plenty of white dudes' convictions can verify that. Arguing his Vegas memorabilia sitch plays into his murder trial is a strawman argument.
 
There's no reason to make a joke. You're the parsing King. Just like El Presidente was parsing rape earlier...

WTF? It was a notation so to ward off jokes that were bound to come in the next several responses, as I understand our audience.
 
All 3 had a hand. But racism or not, without the planting of faulty evidence we don't know how the trial would have ended. It was the faulty evidence that was the end-all-be-all.

Agreed. I'm not the one putting the verdict on one factor.
 
Agreed. I'm not the one putting the verdict on one factor.

I am. It was the glove single-handedly. With or without Johnny Cochran; with or without Mark Fuhrman being racist, the glove was the reason. Without the planted glove, no acquittal IMHO.
 
WTF? It was a notation so to ward off jokes that were bound to come in the next several responses, as I understand our audience.

That's a huge assumption. Just because you want to make jokes doesn't mean anyone else did. You're the one that doesn't read my post and thinks that I'm saying racism is the reason why he was acquitted. I'm not saying that at all. Take away Fuhrman's racism, and it could have easily been replaced by a crooked cop. And that's where reading comprehension comes into play. I never once said that it was racism that was the reason why Fuhrman planted the glove. I simply pointed out the fact that Mark Fuhrman was racist. You took it and ran with it.
 
Study the case. Study what the jurors had to say. Several of the ones that talked did mention the glove as a piece, but it was far more than that.

Your answer isn't wrong. But it's far from right.
 
That's a huge assumption. Just because you want to make jokes doesn't mean anyone else did. You're the one that doesn't read my post and thinks that I'm saying racism is the reason why he was acquitted. I'm not saying that at all. Take away Fuhrman's racism, and it could have easily been replaced by a crooked cop. And that's where reading comprehension comes into play. I never once said that it was racism that was the reason why Fuhrman planted the glove. I simply pointed out the fact that Mark Fuhrman was racist. You took it and ran with it.

Wow "bro". You're way off base. Had no intentions of making jokes. And I didn't. I can see this convo is over when your drawing unreasonable conclusions. Thanks for unreasonable banter. Don't appreciate your judgments.

Enjoy your evening. Cheers.
 
Wow "bro". You're way off base. Had no intentions of making jokes. And I didn't. I can see this convo is over when your drawing unreasonable conclusions. Thanks for unreasonable banter. Don't appreciate your judgments.

Enjoy your evening. Cheers.

Why the hell do you keep putting quotes around bro? I called everybody bro and brother. Get over yourself. You're not right Like You Think You Are.
 
King: Brock Turner, Cory Batey show how race affects sentencing

When Cory Batey was a 19-year-old standout football player at Vanderbilt, he raped an unconscious woman. The ample evidence, including security cameras showing the unconscious woman being carried into a dorm room and cellphone photos and videos of the sexual assault, was clear — Cory Batey sexually assaulted the woman. In April, a jury found Batey guilty of three felony counts including aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery.

He was immediately remanded into custody and must serve a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 to 25 years in prison.

What Batey did was reprehensible. The judge and jury treated his crime as such.

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(SAMUEL M. SIMPKINS/AP)
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(STANFORD UNIVERSITY'S DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY)
Former Vanderbilt football player Cory Batey (l.) must serve a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 to 25 years in prison for raping an unconscious woman. Brock Turner will serve six months in jail for the same crime.

That's what makes the case of Brock Turner, a 19-year-old standout swimmer at Stanford who raped an unconscious woman, all the more infuriating. As was the case with Batey, ample evidence existed that Turner was guilty. Eyewitnesses actually caught him in the act as he sexually assaulted an unconscious woman behind a dumpster. A jury agreed and Turner was found guilty of multiple felony rape charges. Turner, though, was given a six-month jail sentence and told he could be released on good behavior in as little as three months. He won't even go to an actual prison, but will remain in the local jail during that time.

One man will spend the entire prime of his life in prison for his crime — the other will be out of jail before the summer heat disappears.
One man is black and the other is white. I won't even ask you to guess which is which. This is America.

The judge in the Turner case, Aaron Persky, who was also a standout athlete in a stuffy, predominantly white sport at Stanford, seemed to see himself in the young man and felt that a long prison sentence for Turner would be an overreach of justice and stated publicly that "a prison sentence would have a severe impact on him." Isn't that the point of a prison sentence?

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Eyewitnesses actually caught Brock Turner in the act as he sexually assaulted an unconscious woman behind a dumpster.
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No such sympathy was given to Batey, who claimed that he, like the victim, was also drunk and could not remember a single moment of the incident.

Wrongfully convicted Brian Banks disgusted by Brock Turner ruling

Such is often the case of crime in America. Black men consistently pay the harshest possible price for crimes they commit. Just off the top, black men are given prison sentences 20% longer than white men for the exact same crimes. Cory Batey's minimum possible prison sentence, though, is actually 3,000% longer than what Brock Turner was given for a comparable crime.

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Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge Aaron Persky felt a long prison sentence for Turner would be an overreach of justice.
It doesn't stop there.

African-Americans and Latinos are three times as likely to have their cars searched by police than whites and are twice as likely to be arrested for drugs over whites — even though studies show whites use and sell drugs at the same or even higher rates than African-Americans.

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Teenager Kalief Browder spent over three years in Rikers Island because he was suspected of having stolen a book bag. A few months after he was released and the charges were dismissed, he killed himself.
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The argument here is not that Cory Batey should've been given a break and let off in three months like Brock Turner. Instead, the argument is that the racial disparity in sentencing for similar crimes is completely out of hand. America's jails and prisons are overflowing with young black and Latino teenagers who are paying the harshest price possible for their crimes.

Hero grad student describes catching Stanford rapist

Teenager Kalief Browder spent over three years in Rikers Island because he was suspected of having stolen a book bag. He was never even charged with a crime and committed suicide months after his release.

Jasmine Richards, a young activist in Pasadena, California, was convicted of "felony lynching" after she stood up for a young stranger she thought was being brutalized by the police and could spend years in prison over it. It is among the most ridiculous, trumped up convictions I've seen in my entire life.

America doesn't have a hard time sending people to prison for years on end. Our country does that well. It's just that the same rules don't seem to apply if you are white and privileged.
 
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Hero grad student describes catching Stanford rapist

"She was unconscious. The entire time. I checked her and she didn't move at all," Carl-Fredrik Arndt said.

Arndt and his friend later told authorities that they saw Turner on top of the victim "aggressively thrusting his hips into her."

"The guy stood up then we saw she wasn't moving still. So we called him out on it. And the guy ran away, my friend Peter chased after him," Arndt said.
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So he definitely raped her. And he knew what he was doing because he ran.
 
@dviss1 the glove wasn't planted.

Do you have a pair of well fitting leather gloves? Get them wet, put them in the back of the closet for a few months. Now put on a pair of latex gloves and then try to pull the leather gloves over them. You'll get the same result.
 
The justice system is clearly rigged against people of color.

Every case is different, but it sure looks like the white guy got off easy and the black athlete accused of the same thing ends up serving a decade+ in prison. They both deserve the decade+ in prison.

The Rodney King thing was a terrible joke - a mockery of justice. The world can see how the man was brutally and unnecessarily and brutally beaten. Beaten after King was subdued.

The court system was shown to be corrupt when the cops were acquitted after legal maneuvering to favor the cops. The feds came in and tried the cops again on civil rights law violations and got convictions. Those convictions had the sentences reduced by a judge favorable to the cops.

This shit still goes on today. That's why black lives matter comes about.
 

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