Whiteside: trade or keep?

[B-Roy]

Last time we had a pending free agent center playing the best ball of his career, we traded him for future assets. Portland was 23-31 at the time of that trade. Just sayin..

Are you talking about Plumlee? They got someone back that was better.

 

[HailBlazers]

I’m like 80% sure he’s not getting traded.

Olshey has no intention.

 

[Scalma]

Are you talking about Plumlee? They got someone back that was better.

No shit. But at the time Plumlee was starting and playing the best ball of his career while Nurkic was buried on the bench, and they still made the trade, mainly because they knew they weren’t gonna pay Plumlee. Something similar *could* happen with Whiteside. They know he’s not coming back so they gather some future assets.

 

[OneSport3]

Olshey would get eviscerated if he traded Whiteside at this point.

 

[blazerfan11]

No shit. But at the time Plumlee was starting and playing the best ball of his career while Nurkic was buried on the bench, and they still made the trade, mainly because they knew they weren’t gonna pay Plumlee. Something similar *could* happen with Whiteside. They know he’s not coming back so they gather some future assets.

Future assets? Like who?

 

[Scalma]

Olshey would get eviscerated if he traded Whiteside at this point.

Everyone on the team was PISSED when he traded Plumlee. They got over that pretty quick. Olshey has to do what’s best for the blazers, not the players. If he knows Whiteside isn’t going to come back as a backup, he should explore his market. If there’s a trade to be made that gives Portland assets beyond this season, he should probably pull the trigger.

 

[blazerfan11]

Olshey would get eviscerated if he traded Whiteside at this point.

Not if it was for a guy who can score like Lillard is this season. Karl Anthony Towns. Imagine having 2 Lillards on offense. That's what I want.

 

[blazerfan11]

Everyone on the team was PISSED when he traded Plumlee. They got over that pretty quick. Olshey has to do what’s best for the blazers, not the players. If he knows Whiteside isn’t going to come back as a backup, he should explore his market. If there’s a trade to be made that gives Portland assets beyond this season, he should probably pull the trigger.

And put an end to the run their on right now? For what? What future assets are we getting? More Mo Harklesses?

 

[Scalma]

And put an end to the run their on right now? For what? What future assets are we getting? More Mo Harklesses?

What run? The best case scenario for this team realistically speaking is the eighth seed. They are seven games out of the seventh seed. So if the ceiling of this team is a first round matchup against the lakers, the future should be at the forefront of roster decisions.

 

[HailBlazers]

What run? The best case scenario for this team realistically speaking is the eighth seed. They are seven games out of the seventh seed. So if the ceiling of this team is a first round matchup against the lakers, the future should be at the forefront of roster decisions.

Neil has wanted Whiteside for awhile, the future is now.

 

[blazerfan11]

What run? The best case scenario for this team realistically speaking is the eighth seed. They are seven games out of the seventh seed. So if the ceiling of this team is a first round matchup against the lakers, the future should be at the forefront of roster decisions.

It's very realistic that the Blazers won't be any better at the end of next season than they are right now. If the Lakers are as good as you believe, what would make the Blazers better than the Lakers next season??
What is a "realistic" trade involving Hassan Whiteside?

 

[illmatic99]

He's gotten better the last few games when he hasn't been lazy. Why can't he play like this every night?

If he's like this, you can't trade him

 

[Natebishop3]

It's very realistic that the Blazers won't be any better at the end of next season than they are right now. If the Lakers are as good as you believe, what would make the Blazers better than the Lakers next season??
What is a "realistic" trade involving Hassan Whiteside?

I don't even know at this point.

 

[Labinot41]

After reading Jason Quick's article on The Athletic, i'm having a very hard time to belive that Neil is gonna trade Whiteside

 

[Scalma]

It's very realistic that the Blazers won't be any better at the end of next season than they are right now. If the Lakers are as good as you believe, what would make the Blazers better than the Lakers next season??

Adding a game changer in Nurk (Whiteside is not on his level) and the return of Collins and Hood also deepens the rotation. You’d also expect the young guys like Nas, Simons, etc to be better a year from now. Those are just the internal improvements.

 

[Natebishop3]

Adding a game changer in Nurk (Whiteside is not on his level)

I'm just not sure if I agree about Whiteside not being on his level.

 

[Scalma]

Welp he wants to stay. Or at least that’s what he says in Quicks latest article. Says he wants to “be on a team for a long time” and thinks he can coexist with Nurk.

https://theathletic.com/1577873/202...s-on-the-trade-deadline-the-blazers-are-back/

I asked if he thinks he and Nurkic can co-exist?

“I think we could, I definitely think we could, because the way we play, it’s not like the 4-man is shooting a ton of 3s,” Whiteside said. “Melo, he don’t really shoot a ton of 3s … he’s mostly posting up and in the lane 2s …”

Hold on, I said. What does a four-man have to do with you and Nurkic? You think you two would play together?

“Yeah. I don’t see why not,” Whiteside said. “I mean 77 (double pick-and-rolls) … I don’t see why not. I think it could work. Me and Skal (Labissiere) played together … I think in Stotts’ system it don’t even matter. He likes having two bigs anyway.”

Yeah, but Stotts always says it matters what position a player can guard. I don’t see Nurk guarding fours, I told him.

“Then I would defend the four,” he said, bringing up Philadelphia using two bigs. “You seen Ingles and what he tried to do tonight …”

 

[Lanny]

Trading him is ignorant beyond belief.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Keep Hassan. He's just too impactful and Nurk is no guarantee. If it becomes an issue, you deal with it then. No one is a bigger fan of Nurk than me but even he's no guarantee with his injury prone issues. Hassan won't cost a ton to re-sign either.

If the Blazers can add a veteran 1 or 2 like a Darren Collison to this team that would make a huge difference coming off the bench. Could get one in the buyout market ala Enes Kanter last season.

 

[Scalma]

Whiteside and Nurk could in theory work together in doses, or just enough to allow Whiteside to get starter type minutes overall. I also think both those guys have the potential to expand their range beyond the three point line.

 

[Scalma]

If Denver can play Plumlee and Jokic together Portland can try Whiteside and Nurkic. That’d be amazing if Whiteside stayed. My motivation for dealing him has always been because of the uncertainty of his free agency. If the dude is committed to not only staying, but willingness to accommodate other players, keep his ass.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If Denver can play Plumlee and Jokic together Portland can try Whiteside and Nurkic. That’d be amazing if Whiteside stayed. My motivation for dealing him has always been because of the uncertainty of his free agency. If the dude is committed to not only staying, but willingness to accommodate other players, keep his ass.

Doubtful. Jokic likes to be out on the perimeter on offense. And Plumless can cover the perimeter better than either Nurk or Hassan.
I guess it depends on the opposition. But a rotation of Hassan, Nurk, and Collin and Skal would be ok with me. Little can help out as well.

 

[Scalma]

Doubtful. Jokic likes to be out on the perimeter on offense. And Plumless can cover the perimeter better than either Nurk or Hassan.
I guess it depends on the opposition. But a rotation of Hassan, Nurk, and Collin and Skal would be ok with me. Little can help out as well.

Idk, whatever advantage Plumlee has in athleticism Whiteside makes up in length. I’ve seen Whiteside mirror LeBron, he’s not gonna be overmatched. The bigger mismatch will be when the opposition has to put a stretch four on him defensively. That’d be the real comedy. Besides, Nurk is a plus playmaker you can run the offense through, and he can also knock down shots in the mid range.

They could definitely co exist in doses if Whiteside is as willing as he says.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Trading him is ignorant beyond belief.

Phooey!

The last time he was in a contract year he played well enough to get paid $27 million a season. Ask anybody in Miami if he earned that contract. He is playing really well right now - but gambling on him maintaining this level would mean we were ignorant of his past history.

 

[Scalma]

Phooey!

The last time he was in a contract year he played well enough to get paid $27 million a season. Ask anybody in Miami if he earned that contract. He is playing really well right now - but gambling on him maintaining this level would mean we were ignorant of his past history.

Which one was the contract year again?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Phooey!

The last time he was in a contract year he played well enough to get paid $27 million a season. Ask anybody in Miami if he earned that contract. He is playing really well right now - but gambling on him maintaining this level would mean we were ignorant of his past history.

Playing devil's advocate....he won't get 27 million and he didn't have Dame as a teammate in Miami.
And before someone mentions Wade..... DWade was a great player, but he could be a dick.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Which one was the contract year again?

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OK, I'll bite. Why did Miami give him that monster deal and if his subsequent play was so great why were they fed up with him?

 

[Pinwheel1]

I can't help but wonder how much Nurk weighs right now. He looks like he lost about 20 lbs.
He needs a full summer of lifting IMO. I don't expect much from him this season.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Welp he wants to stay. Or at least that’s what he says in Quicks latest article. Says he wants to “be on a team for a long time” and thinks he can coexist with Nurk.

https://theathletic.com/1577873/202...s-on-the-trade-deadline-the-blazers-are-back/

I asked if he thinks he and Nurkic can co-exist?

“I think we could, I definitely think we could, because the way we play, it’s not like the 4-man is shooting a ton of 3s,” Whiteside said. “Melo, he don’t really shoot a ton of 3s … he’s mostly posting up and in the lane 2s …”

Hold on, I said. What does a four-man have to do with you and Nurkic? You think you two would play together?

“Yeah. I don’t see why not,” Whiteside said. “I mean 77 (double pick-and-rolls) … I don’t see why not. I think it could work. Me and Skal (Labissiere) played together … I think in Stotts’ system it don’t even matter. He likes having two bigs anyway.”

Yeah, but Stotts always says it matters what position a player can guard. I don’t see Nurk guarding fours, I told him.

“Then I would defend the four,” he said, bringing up Philadelphia using two bigs. “You seen Ingles and what he tried to do tonight …”

It seems he wants to believe they can co-exist. I think it's wishful thinking.

 

[Scalma]

OK, I'll bite. Why did Miami give him that monster deal and if his subsequent play was so great why were they fed up with him?

Look at Nurkic in Denver. Melo with D’Antoni. Wouldn’t be the first time a player and a coach didn’t mesh and a narrative formed he didn’t necessarily deserve. Hassan is happy here and we have the best leader in the sport. Maybe you don’t trust Whiteside, but you can trust Dame.