Who decided to break up our starters; Neil or Aldridge?

[Draco]

Did Aldridge say he wouldn't come back to the same starting 5 before the Batum trade?

Did Neil say we won't be trying to keep all our starters at estimated near max market prices and will aim for another direction first?

 

[Scalma]

Wes injury decided that, although the decision might've been made before considering Olshey didn't try to re-sign anyone outside of LA

 

[BrianFromWA]

Neil didn't decline a max extension.

 

[riverman]

Wes injury decided that, although the decision might've been made before that considering Olshey didn't try to re-sign anyone outside of LA

this

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

We have had many unfortunate moments as Blazer fans. The Wes injury was one of the biggest.

 

[Natebishop3]

Should have traded his ass right after he declined the max offer last summer.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Scalma]

We have had many unfortunate moments as Blazer fans. The Wes injury was one of the biggest.

I don't know, it might be a blessing in disguise in the long run. While extremely likable, the group probably wasn't a championship contender.

 

[Kaydow]

There is no single person or event that caused this. It's possible Olshey expected a warmer reception from the FA market. The contingencies for contingencies probably didn't factor in whiffing on ALL impact players we were targeting. No Monroe, no Danny Green, no Milsap, no anything but bench players . . . so far.

 

[Scalma]

There is no single person or event that caused this. It's possible Olshey expected a warmer reception from the FA market. The contingencies for contingencies probably didn't factor in whiffing on ALL impact players we were targeting. No Monroe, no Danny Green, no Milsap, no anything but bench players . . . so far.

Monroe was the only miss. Extremely unlikely they had serious interest in the other two.

 

[riverman]

 

[BigGameDamian]

Wes injury decided that, although the decision might've been made before considering Olshey didn't try to re-sign anyone outside of LA

Horseshit, If that's the case then I would bet that that Blazers team wasn't as tight as everyone thought.

 

[Pinwheel1]

"When Wesley Matthews ruptured his left Achilles tendon on March 5, it didn't take long for Neil Olshey to realize his own offseason had changed dramatically."

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...blazers_the_day_it_all_began.html#incart_2box

 

[Sinobas]

Wes injury decided that, although the decision might've been made before considering Olshey didn't try to re-sign anyone outside of LA

False. The Mavs signed Wes, we could have too if we CHOOSE to.

 

[Scalma]

False. The Mavs signed Wes, we could have too if we CHOOSE to.

Not really a fan of reading comprehension huh?

 

[Scalma]

Horseshit, If that's the case then I would bet that that Blazers team wasn't as tight as everyone thought.

Or the more likely scenario; not as good.

 

[bemac]

Of course it was Neil...What GM would lock in those players at those salaries only to be an above average team? Hell, they would probably be worse, as there would be no money left for the bench. Good move by Neil. Excited to see what comes of a young group of talent with a little fire in the belly.

 

[Scalma]

Of course it was Neil...What GM would lock in those players at those salaries only to be an above average team? Hell, they would probably be worse, as there would be no money left for the bench. Good move by Neil. Excited to see what comes of a young group of talent with a little fire in the belly.

I wish more people would look at it like this, instead of crying about how Olshey broke up a team full of great guys and close friends.

 

[Draco]

Should have traded his ass right after he declined the max offer last summer.

Thats a big problem with the CBA; it basically doesn't allow max players to sign extensions. They should allow extensions for a 4th year; then I bet Aldridge would've signed last summer. If he doesn't we trade him. I bet they change that in the 2017 lockout.

Right now teams really have no choice but to prey when a max player goes to free agency he stays with them. Teams don't want to panick and trade away allstars as the Thunder did with Harden. But the Lakers had the same problem with Dwight as we are having; the Cavs with Love, the Clippers with DeAndre, and Memphis with Marc Gasol. Lakers lost; Cavs won; Memphis appears good; what happens to us and the Clips? Its just a gamble.

 

[Natebishop3]

Thats a big problem with the CBA; it basically doesn't allow max players to sign extensions. They should allow extensions for a 4th year; then I bet Aldridge would've signed last summer. If he doesn't we trade him. I bet they change that in the 2017 lockout.

Right now you really have no choice but to prey when a max player goes to free agency he stays with you. The Lakers had the same problem with Dwight; the Cavs with Love, the Clippers with DeAndre.

Yeah, but I honestly have felt for two years now that he was gone. I don't think this was a spur of the moment decision or that he changed his mind. I think he was going to leave and Neil should have traded his ass.

 

[Rhal]

You dont sign Rolo to 54m and an injured wes for 52m if your not sure if LAs coming back or not. If were rebuilding Olshey has set it up nicely for salary cap dumps for picks near the deadline.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

At this point, I'm pretty sure he is gone. What I don't understand is why this general manager would reject a sign and trade scenario that would bring back assets. Something is better than nothing. If he's sold on Miami and are willing to give something up, get on the phone with them. I just don't get what goes in this thought process.

 

[Scalma]

At this point, I'm pretty sure he is gone. What I don't understand is why this general manager would reject a sign and trade scenario that would bring back assets. Something is better than nothing. If he's sold on Miami and are willing to give something up, get on the phone with them. I just don't get what goes in this thought process.

That's so weird because I'm trying to understand your thought process when you wrote this out.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

That's weird because I'm trying to understand your thought process when you wrote this out.

What's not to understand? He's stated he's not going to do a sign and trade. It's pretty clear. It's completely foolish.

 

[Scalma]

What's not to understand? He's stated he's not going to do a sign and trade. It's pretty clear. It's completely foolish.

Where did he state that

 

[magnifier661]

Of course it was Neil...What GM would lock in those players at those salaries only to be an above average team? Hell, they would probably be worse, as there would be no money left for the bench. Good move by Neil. Excited to see what comes of a young group of talent with a little fire in the belly.

Very good point

 

[Wizard Mentor]

False. The Mavs signed Wes, we could have too if we CHOOSE to.

why would

Where did he state that

per jabari article

 

[magnifier661]

At this point, I'm pretty sure he is gone. What I don't understand is why this general manager would reject a sign and trade scenario that would bring back assets. Something is better than nothing. If he's sold on Miami and are willing to give something up, get on the phone with them. I just don't get what goes in this thought process.

Who says he isn't?

 

[Chris Craig]

At this point, I'm pretty sure he is gone. What I don't understand is why this general manager would reject a sign and trade scenario that would bring back assets. Something is better than nothing. If he's sold on Miami and are willing to give something up, get on the phone with them. I just don't get what goes in this thought process.

I'm Starting to see it this way.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

At this point, I'm pretty sure he is gone. What I don't understand is why this general manager would reject a sign and trade scenario that would bring back assets. Something is better than nothing. If he's sold on Miami and are willing to give something up, get on the phone with them. I just don't get what goes in this thought process.

Basically, you set a policy of not negotiating with terrorists. The idea is this: if you don't accept sign and trades, then LMA must sign for less $$ unless he signs with us. Most FAs will take the $$. Once you have that policy in place and everyone knows that, then you reluctantly agree to a sign and trade at the end of negotiations and squeeze the team for all they're worth!

So yeah, if the Heat will give us their 2 young studs, Neil agrees and looks like a genius.