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riverman said:
I disagree..Dame is a pt guard, he's going to feed teammates if the Blazers are going to succeed. What Wall is doing with the Wizards doesn't compare to what his role would be in Portland. He has to become the go to guy there. Wes is going to be a go to guy in Dallas unlike his time here.
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What's he's saying is Wall needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He does not play off ball well.
 
riverman said:
I disagree..Dame is a pt guard, he's going to feed teammates if the Blazers are going to succeed. What Wall is doing with the Wizards doesn't compare to what his role would be in Portland. He has to become the go to guy there. Wes is going to be a go to guy in Dallas unlike his time here.
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So you think they would be a good fit together? Statistically Wall is much better at feeding the ball to his teammates and Dame takes more shots and is also a more efficient scorer. I think a Wall/Lillard back court would have Damian playing off the ball a lot more with the ball in Wall's hands which would be playing to both of their strengths. I just don't see Damian as the incumbent franchise point guard giving up the reigns on offence so easily.
 
Oh yeah, we should trade for Kevin Durant and Blake Griffin. And while we're at it, I think we have realistic chance to land Wilt and Larry Bird!
 
Stevenson said:
Oh yeah, we should trade for Kevin Durant and Blake Griffin. And while we're at it, I think we have realistic chance to land Wilt and Larry Bird!
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Geez... The pessimism around here.

It isn't a "we should trade for...." thread...

Its who do you think might be disgruntled and demand a trade that might fit us and be a game changer.
I love how people just twist shit around and then proceed to shit further on it... come on man. Do better than this please...:)
 
Orion Bailey said:
Picks? Why on earth would we want picks? Picks at this point would not be developed in time to fit with Dame.

We have 8 lotto picks on the team already. Someone please explain to me how picks are going to benefit building around Dame?

Also, it isn't about whether the player wants to come here or not, it is simply who do you think will want to be moved that would be a fit for this team and would be a home run swing?

So are you saying because you don't think Durant would want to come here, you don't go after him if he voices unhappiness? That's pretty silly. You never get ANYTHING in life if you don't try for it....

I think your fork needs to sober up. :)
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So we give up the farm to get Durant and then he leaves in free agency and we get nothing. Sounds like a great plan.
 
I think Eric Bledsoe will be an option.
 
BonesJones said:
So we give up the farm to get Durant and then he leaves in free agency and we get nothing. Sounds like a great plan.
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I think it has been proven as well as mentioned many times. When a player wants out, the team he wants out of very seldom get fair trade value for them. For you to say trade the farm for Durant holds no water....You know this.
Also, if a player wants to go to a specific team, why would he want the team he is going to, to trade everything?
We would be giving up our draft picks and some bench potential is what I am thinking. Durant is in the last year of his contract, so the Thunder don't have near as much leverage as if he still had several years left. Plus it could also be a sign and trade thing, so that we are assured Durant doesn't leave. These are all speculation options though that aren't really relevant.
again. If Durant voices his unhappiness, you don't think the Blazers should swing for him? If so, please provide reasons why that aren't..."trade the farm for him". That holds no water in this scenario.


AGAIN... the question isn't who should we trade for. It is who do you think will become disgruntled and want a trade that might fit with the Blazers who would be a game changer.....

Im thinking some of you are on a one track mind at the moment and not able to open thoughts up to other things. Maybe why some people think this thread is a waste of time. It is if you read it as, "who will be disgruntled the Blazers should trade for."

they are completely different questions IMO...
 
Orion Bailey said:
I think it has been proven as well as mentioned many times. When a player wants out, the team he wants out of very seldom get fair trade value for them. For you to say trade the farm for Durant holds no water....You know this.
Also, if a player wants to go to a specific team, why would he want the team he is going to, to trade everything?
We would be giving up our draft picks and some bench potential is what I am thinking. Durant is in the last year of his contract, so the Thunder don't have near as much leverage as if he still had several years left. Plus it could also be a sign and trade thing, so that we are assured Durant doesn't leave. These are all speculation options though that aren't really relevant.
again. If Durant voices his unhappiness, you don't think the Blazers should swing for him? If so, please provide reasons why that aren't..."trade the farm for him". That holds no water in this scenario.


AGAIN... the question isn't who should we trade for. It is who do you think will become disgruntled and want a trade that might fit with the Blazers who would be a game changer.....

Im thinking some of you are on a one track mind at the moment and not able to open thoughts up to other things. Maybe why some people think this thread is a waste of time. It is if you read it as, "who will be disgruntled the Blazers should trade for."

they are completely different questions IMO...
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maybe not just disgruntled players but under performing teams divesting themselves of contracts or turning in a different direction like we did in free agency?
 
horford and the hawks could be a trade partner if last years success can't be sustained? they resigned millsap and traded for splitter this offseason and horford enters free agency next season
 
Orion Bailey said:
I think it has been proven as well as mentioned many times. When a player wants out, the team he wants out of very seldom get fair trade value for them. For you to say trade the farm for Durant holds no water....You know this.
Also, if a player wants to go to a specific team, why would he want the team he is going to, to trade everything?
We would be giving up our draft picks and some bench potential is what I am thinking. Durant is in the last year of his contract, so the Thunder don't have near as much leverage as if he still had several years left. Plus it could also be a sign and trade thing, so that we are assured Durant doesn't leave. These are all speculation options though that aren't really relevant.
again. If Durant voices his unhappiness, you don't think the Blazers should swing for him? If so, please provide reasons why that aren't..."trade the farm for him". That holds no water in this scenario.


AGAIN... the question isn't who should we trade for. It is who do you think will become disgruntled and want a trade that might fit with the Blazers who would be a game changer.....

Im thinking some of you are on a one track mind at the moment and not able to open thoughts up to other things. Maybe why some people think this thread is a waste of time. It is if you read it as, "who will be disgruntled the Blazers should trade for."

they are completely different questions IMO...
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Why would we give anything up when we'd have a slim chance of resigning him? Why wouldn't we wait till the offseason?
 
Kevin Durant would be considered a grand slam. Demar Derozan or John Wall would be considered a home run.
 
lawai'a said:
horford and the hawks could be a trade partner if last years success can't be sustained? they resigned millsap and traded for splitter this offseason and horford enters free agency next season
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if you can get him for cheap or if he commits to resigning then yeah you go after him. I think Bledsoe and Horford would be the start of something great.
 
lawai'a said:
maybe not just disgruntled players but under performing teams divesting themselves of contracts or turning in a different direction like we did in free agency?
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Exactly. Spurs got the biggest FA for nothing this year. Nothing. And if we would have tried to trade him before the deadline, how much do you really think we would have got? Not much. And anyone who thinks otherwise is living a bigger pipe dream than some people see this thread as...

The only angle I see on this is FA is a tougher way for us to get a game changer. that's why I think about more of the disgruntled player type still under contract who doesn't have as much say as a player becoming an FA. But Definitely.
What game changing FA's might not fit into the teams future entering the trade deadline?
 
Threads like these always bring out the....nobody will want to come to Portland ...fans. They also usually assume that a player's production or role on their previous team will carry over to Stotts system. I think it's worth talking about but anything discussed is going to be a reach. So far Neil Olshey has shown the ability to attract interest from players just like Nate talked Crawford into coming here. These scenarios are all just plan B possibilities if players we are counting on don't produce results. CJ McCollum has yet to play an entire healthy season. That's my red flag with him. When it comes to star or allstars, Griffin would be the guy who Olshey could sweet talk more than Durant or LBJ
 
lawai'a said:
horford and the hawks could be a trade partner if last years success can't be sustained? they resigned millsap and traded for splitter this offseason and horford enters free agency next season
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Horford is on my wish list, good call
 
If the Cavs don't meet expectations, they'll have to move someone like Kevin Love to shed salary..the deadline is for taking advantage of teams that are underachieving and overpaying
 
BonesJones said:
Why would we give anything up when we'd have a slim chance of resigning him? Why wouldn't we wait till the offseason?
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Because the Thunder may not want to wait. especially after witnessing the Blazers/LMA drama.
 
I missed Al Horford. he is in his last year? He would be high on my list then, especially since one of their key guys already left for Toronto. This could be viable.
 
I can see a number of teams that might "blow it up" including but not limited to ,Atlanta, chicago, Washington, charlotte(perennial candidate), phoenix(slather is notoriously cheap), and OKC if they significantly under perform. don't forget the possibility of melo souring on the big apple and losing.
 
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Orion Bailey said:
Because the Thunder may not want to wait. especially after witnessing the Blazers/LMA drama.
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I said why would we trade anything when we have a slim chance of bringing him back.....
 
lawai'a said:
I can see a number of teams that might "blow it up" including but not limited to ,Atlanta, chicago, Washington, charlotte(perennial candidate), phoenix(slater is notoriously cheap), and OKC if they significantly under perform. don't forget the possibility of melo souring on the big apple and losing.
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I'd love to get Korver next to Dame and somehow get Horford too.
 
lawai'a said:
I can see a number of teams that might "blow it up" including but not limited to ,Atlanta, chicago, Washington, charlotte(perennial candidate), phoenix(slater is notoriously cheap), and OKC if they significantly under perform. don't forget the possibility of melo souring on the big apple and losing.
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Good call.

Maybe might be easier to list the teams who have good potential to falter and thus want to blow it up by trade deadline. Then from the list of teams, find the type of game changer that could fit with this system? Obviously a few names being tossed around are already from these teams. I never watch east coast basketball though, so for most of these teams listed being from the East, I know little about their rosters and the contracts behind them.

You mention Chicago as a potential blow up team. Hmm I wonder about that one though. If they decide to blow it up, do you think Rose would be a good fit?
 
BonesJones said:
I'd love to get Korver next to Dame and somehow get Horford too.
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I like Horford, but Korver seems fairly one dimensional to me no? I know he is lights out from Three, but what else does be bring to the table to make him a game changer? I wouldn't consider him a game changer. I would consider him a great starting role player.
 
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