Who does Collins remind you of?

[Natebishop3]

He'll need to improve both his passing and his rebounding to be comparable, IMO.

I'd have to look at KG's numbers from his first couple seasons to see how that compares.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'd have to look at KG's numbers from his first couple seasons to see how that compares.

TRB% 12.6, which is a bit higher than Zach's of around 11.5 (mostly because of offensive rebounding). Assist% 12.6 much higher than Zach's 7.2.

Garnett didn't become an elite rebounder until year 5, so there's still time there, but he was a better passer from day 1 out of high school than Zach has shown to be, and I don't see that changing. That was one thing that absolutely set KG apart from every other big out there (except perhaps Webber)

 

[Natebishop3]

TRB% 12.6, which is a bit higher than Zach's of around 11.5. Assist% 12.6 much higher than Zach's 7.2.

Garnett didn't become an elite rebounder until year 5, so there's still time there, but he was a better passer from day 1 out of high school than Zach has shown to be, and I don't see that changing. That was one thing that absolutely set KG apart from every other big out there (except perhaps Webber)

I'm curious how much of the offense ran through KG at that point though. Dame is our star. The ball goes through him. CJ is next in line. I remember the Wolves had Marbury, although not until his second season.

 

[illmatic99]

His offensive game has just taken off like a rocket - since preseason! I don't understand it, because I was getting a little discouraged watching him in SL and preseason. Maybe it's the unstructured swarmball nature of those games and he needs the space he gets from being surrounded by shooters, but he's patient and efficient - it's a joy to watch. And of course his defense has always been great. HE'S THE NEW TIM DUNCAN!!!!!

No kidding. Night and day now compared to preseason and SL

 

[Rastapopoulos]

He'll need to improve both his passing and his rebounding to be comparable, IMO.

So you're saying he's not going to be as good as the greatest PF of all time? Phooey.

 

[santeesioux]

Ignorant.

I was just havin' a laff.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So you're saying he's not going to be as good as the greatest PF of all time? Phooey.

Yeah, it's a pretty high standard to compare him to, no doubt.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Sam Bowie - Im kidding (in case thats not clear).

 

[Orion Bailey]

Poor Man's KG....


Now im on @PtldPlatypus blast!

 

[hoopsjock]

Sam Bowie - Im kidding (in case thats not clear).

Damn Tortured has jokes! If you mean Bowie as a compliment I could live with that, I don't think people realize how good his career numbers were. The only weakness in his game was the low FG%. It's savage on your part if you meant Bowie as an insult because you think Collins will get hurt and be considered a bust (because I think a majority of people think that way about Bowie).

 

[Orion Bailey]

Damn Tortured has jokes! If you mean Bowie as a compliment I could live with that, I don't think people realize how good his career numbers were. The only weakness in his game was the low FG%. It's savage on your part if you meant Bowie as an insult because you think Collins will get hurt and be considered a bust (because I think a majority of people think that way about Bowie).

Im pretty sure he is working his way into a banning. lol

 

[hoopsjock]

TRB% 12.6, which is a bit higher than Zach's of around 11.5 (mostly because of offensive rebounding). Assist% 12.6 much higher than Zach's 7.2.

Garnett didn't become an elite rebounder until year 5, so there's still time there, but he was a better passer from day 1 out of high school than Zach has shown to be, and I don't see that changing. That was one thing that absolutely set KG apart from every other big out there (except perhaps Webber)

Garnett (and Webber) could both handle the rock too. Part of their greatness was being able to snag a defensive rebound and just push the ball up the floor themselves and initiate the offense.

 

[andalusian]

Sam Bowie - Im kidding (in case thats not clear).

David Bowie

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[PtldPlatypus]

Sam Bowie - Im kidding (in case thats not clear).

Damn Tortured has jokes! If you mean Bowie as a compliment I could live with that, I don't think people realize how good his career numbers were. The only weakness in his game was the low FG%. It's savage on your part if you meant Bowie as an insult because you think Collins will get hurt and be considered a bust (because I think a majority of people think that way about Bowie).

Maybe he means that Collins will be traded in 4 years for an Eastern conference borderline all-star who will take our squad to contender status.

 

[Natebishop3]

Garnett (and Webber) could both handle the rock too. Part of their greatness was being able to snag a defensive rebound and just push the ball up the floor themselves and initiate the offense.

Webber was such a freak of nature. I loved watching that guy. He wasn’t the defender that Garnett or Duncan was though.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Maybe he means that Collins will be traded in 4 years for an Eastern conference borderline all-star who will take our squad to contender status.

I meant nothing other to invoke the name of a former Blazer legend and a current Blazer legend.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I meant nothing other to invoke the name of a former Blazer legend and a current Blazer legend.

 

[The Professional Fan]

Why does color matter.....?

Doesn't. Just wondering.

 

[BBert]

His offensive game has just taken off like a rocket - since preseason! I don't understand it, because I was getting a little discouraged watching him in SL and preseason. Maybe it's the unstructured swarmball nature of those games and he needs the space he gets from being surrounded by shooters, but he's patient and efficient - it's a joy to watch. And of course his defense has always been great. HE'S THE NEW TIM DUNCAN!!!!!

Now that you mention it, I did see Zach make a bank shot the other day.

 

[BBert]

David Bowie

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Both skinny and white. Similar hair. Good comp!

(We'll ignore the part about the singing.)

 

[Scalma]

When asked in the draft process who he compares himself to/models himself after, the first name he mentioned was Duncan.

Personally I’ll stick with AD.

Still sticking with AD.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Garnett (and Webber) could both handle the rock too. Part of their greatness was being able to snag a defensive rebound and just push the ball up the floor themselves and initiate the offense.

Garnett was a more complete player at a comparable age, but Zach's defense is more advanced at this stage of his career. The thing that makes me the most optimistic about this comparison is Garnett entered the league with a good fundamental base and just added to it and kept improving year after year, not reaching his peak until his 9th and 10th seasons in the league.

Players who reach peak Garnett level are few and far between (he led the league in PER and WS two years in a row, in rebounding 4 years in a row, was a 15 time all star and eventually won DPOY and MVP in his 13th season). So, I don't think it's reasonable to expect Collins to get there, but based on Collins' solid fundamental base, high BBIQ, good work ethic and aggressive style, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to see continuous improvement over the next several seasons, and that's something that makes me very excited.

BNM

 

[craigehlo]

In an ideal world, I'd see Collins developing a game similar to Robert Parrish. Elite defender with some nice post moves.

 

[andalusian]

Both skinny and white. Similar hair. Good comp!

(We'll ignore the part about the singing.)

It was really a joke on the Sam Bowie thing. But I took it too far, as expected.

Just wait until you see them both in a mask...

Mind. Blown.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Damn Tortured has jokes! If you mean Bowie as a compliment I could live with that, I don't think people realize how good his career numbers were.

Bowie was extremely skilled for an athlete of his size. His body just physically betrayed him. When I think of what could have been, I always remember this game, from three years after we traded him to NJN, when an old, physically hobbled Bowie dominated Hakeem right smack in the middle of his prime:





Lots of good, and even a couple great, players on the floor that night, but on that night, Sam Bowie was the best.

Dr. Jack wanted Bowie to be his next Walton. He saw the great rebounding, shot blocking, high BBIQ and all around skill set and wanted to plug him into the spot in his system vacated by Walton. Unfortunately, like Walton before him, and to an even greater extent, Bowie's body just disintegrated under him.

BNM

 

[hoopsjock]

Maybe he means that Collins will be traded in 4 years for an Eastern conference borderline all-star who will take our squad to contender status.

So we're gonna trade a future league MVP for a borderline all-star from the East?

 

[Samuel]

It is so like the Blazers to add an elite level defender just one year before the league abolishes defense entirely. What luck!

 

[ripcityboy]

Collins as David Bowie..... Sorry, I am not seeing it.

 

[Scalma]

Oh we’re playing THAT game?

 

[BonesJones]

Serge Ibaka, clearly.

Oh duh.