Who is better? Nurkic or Jokic?

[riverman]

I know that Evan Turner is better than Chandler Parsons....I think our team with Nurk and Turner will be better than Denver...if your team is better, nuff said

 

[B-Roy]

Nurkic is better because Jokic would have required a lot more than Plums and cash. Plus we got a pick! Either player would have worked perfectly with our team. Jokic has shown more of a shooting touch though.

Thank you Denver!

They owe us one since every trade with them before this has been them fleecing us.

Felton for Miller/1st (Many have suspected we also passed on Faried for Nolan Smith because of this deal, the 1st in this deal actually became Shabazz Napier)
1st/Barton for a half season rental of Afflalo.

It is actually kind of weird how many times these two division rivals trade with each other.

 

[rotary111]

Jokic tonight vs Celtics.
21 PTS
10 REB
7 AST
4 STLS
1 BLK
Nurkic is clearly the better player. Talk about a couple of players ballin.

 

[Nhawz]

Nurkic has a mean steak that needs to be accounted for. And he's not close to being in shape yet.

 

[Nate]

Right now Jokic is little better player. Jokic is much closer to his peak and he cannot be lot stronger or heavier , kind of limited. Will always be kind of player that you can stop , due to his physic . Nurkic , sky is the limit ... Game Denver Portland will reveal who of these two can bully who ?

Can't wait to see them play against each other.

 

[Nhawz]

Jokic and it's not even close.

Haha bro it's closer than you are leading on

 

[PDXFonz]

Nurkic has a mean steak that needs to be accounted for. And he's not close to being in shape yet.

 

[Nhawz]

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[KingSpeed]

Jokic and it's not even close.

Nurkic has the same ppg, rpg, and apg in Portland as Jokic does in Denver but Nurkic has more dog and bpg so at the very least, its close. I'll take Nurk's steals and blocks over Jok's 3s.

 

[TBpup]

Jokic tonight vs Celtics.
21 PTS
10 REB
7 AST
4 STLS
1 BLK
Nurkic is clearly the better player. Talk about a couple of players ballin.

Those stats against a very good Boston team versus Nurkic's stats against a bad, depleted Philly team. Apples and Oranges it seems.

 

[Sinobas]

If you compare Nurkic stats as a blazer to Jokic, the only thing that stands out is that Jokic is a better shooter and Nurk is a better shot blocker. I'd say that's pretty accurate.

 

[PDXFonz]

Those stats against a very good Boston team versus Nurkic's stats against a bad, depleted Philly team. Apples and Oranges it seems.

Yes, lets just wait 13 days and bet all of our marbles on who ever wins the head to head match up that night.

 

[Sinobas]

Nurkic has the same ppg, rpg, and apg in Portland as Jokic does in Dallas but Nurkic has more dog and bpg so at the very least, its close. I'll take Nurk's steals and blocks over Jok's 3s.

Nurkic has more dog? Jokic plays for Dallas? I think Kingspeed is having himself a drinkie.

 

[KingSpeed]

Those stats against a very good Boston team versus Nurkic's stats against a bad, depleted Philly team. Apples and Oranges it seems.

Jokic vs Sixers AT Denver this season: 24 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks and Denver LOST.

 

[PDXFonz]

If you compare Nurkic stats as a blazer to Jokic, the only thing that stands out is that Jokic is a better shooter and Nurk is a better shot blocker. I'd say that's pretty accurate.

What about the fact that Jokic is doing it on the team that Nurkic could not find a way to? That's got to account for something.

 

[KingSpeed]

That should be spg not dog and Denver, not Dallas

 

[Strenuus]

What about the fact that Jokic is doing it on the team that Nurkic could not find a way to? That's got to account for something.

I don't understand why we're comparing the two? It's not like we had a shot at Jokic and we "settled" with Nurk.

Who cares? We got a damn good player.

Not directed at you, Fonz... just who I quoted.

 

[Strenuus]

That should be spg not dog and Denver, not Dallas

SPG = SlypokerGod

GOD DAMNIT. PROPAGANDA! :MARIS61:

 

[KingSpeed]

If you compare Nurkic stats as a blazer to Jokic, the only thing that stands out is that Jokic is a better shooter and Nurk is a better shot blocker. I'd say that's pretty accurate.

And Nurkic averages more steals and dominated Philly, something Jokic could not do.

 

[Strenuus]

And Nurkic averages more steals and dominated Philly, something Jokic could not do.

So, a participation award? lol.

 

[B-Roy]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jokicni01/gamelog/2017/

Jokic has some crazy statlines.

Had 40 points on 74% shooting.

17/21/12 game

35/12 on 64% shooting

31/14 on 87% shooting

He's been doing what Nurkic has been doing but for the entire season.

 

[Strenuus]

Can someone actually tell me why we need to compare the two? There's literally no reason to. And any reason I am thinking of (both from denver) doesn't mean anything because it was clear Nurk needed new scenery..

Can't we just enjoy what we have without comparing and ranking? #alsoalifelesson

 

[Nate]

Can someone actually tell me why we need to compare the two? There's literally no reason to. And any reason I am thinking of (both from denver) doesn't mean anything because it was clear Nurk needed new scenery..

Can't we just enjoy what we have without comparing and ranking? #alsoalifelesson

No. Everyone that isn't a blazer sucks.

 

[PDXFonz]

Can someone actually tell me why we need to compare the two? There's literally no reason to. And any reason I am thinking of (both from denver) doesn't mean anything because it was clear Nurk needed new scenery..

Can't we just enjoy what we have without comparing and ranking? #alsoalifelesson

I do think it is interesting to consider who will be the better player in 5 years. People are considering the possibility that Nurkic could become the better of the two and lets be honest if that ever happens then we would be talking about if this was th greatest trade in franchise history.

That being said it's kind of silly to debate who the better player is right now. Jokic has done things Nurk has not yet here. You hear "First player to do this since Barkley in 1986" and think "Holy shit this is amazing that means Jokic hasn't done it" but Jokic probably has some "Hasn't been done since Magic Johnson" which Nurk has not done.

Plus everything has been Roses for Nurk here, lets wait for him to have an inevitable let down game and see how many people are talking about trading him, or starting Meyers.

 

[Scalma]

Can someone actually tell me why we need to compare the two? There's literally no reason to. And any reason I am thinking of (both from denver) doesn't mean anything because it was clear Nurk needed new scenery..

Can't we just enjoy what we have without comparing and ranking? #alsoalifelesson

It's mainly just bitter nuggets fans that bring up jokic anytime Nurkic is mentioned, because it keeps the focus off of that stupid as shit trade they made lmao

 

[PDXFonz]

http://milehighsports.com/nuggets-big-man-nikola-jokic-launched-elite-territory/

In the team’s thrilling victory over defending Western Conference Champion Golden State Warriors Monday night, Jokic tallied 17 points, 12 assists and 21 rebounds, becoming the first player since Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor in 1968 to record a stat line of that caliber in an NBA game.

 

[Scalma]

For the record, jokic is better than Nurkic, but the gap isn't as wide as people think. Can't just ignore the defensive part of their games. When you consider the 5 general tools in scouting a player (shooting, creating for self, creating for others, rebounding, defending position) it's only a draw because Nurkic hasn't had a big enough sample of shooting the ball, and he's a better shooter than Jokic is a defender, so I don't know, its really close.

The people that laugh at the suggestion that Nurkic is comparable to Jokic are either bitter Nugget fans, or just sheep following a narrative.

 

[MickZagger]

I take Nurk just because I think he's more of a traditional Center that clogs up the paint and blocks shots. He's kind of an enforcer. Both are good passers, Jokic a little better. Jokic's outside shot is definitely his leg up. When they play us he'll try and take Nurkic away from the paint by handling the ball and shooting outside, I think we should put Aminu on the Jokic assignment.

They are both probably as good as they are because of competing against each other in practice for the past couple years.

I think for this team, Nurk is a better fit. We desperately needed someone down low protecting the paint to keep teams honest. After his 5 blocks in the first quarter, Philly thought twice about getting into the paint. His passing is on par with Plumlee. He has better touch, he's younger, and we got a 1st rounder. HIGHWAY ROBBERY

 

[Nate]

For the record, jokic is better than Nurkic, but the gap isn't as wide as people think. Can't just ignore the defensive part of their games. When you consider the 5 general tools in scouting a player (shooting, creating for self, creating for others, rebounding, defending position) it's only a draw because Nurkic hasn't had a big enough sample of shooting the ball, and he's a better shooter than Jokic is a defender, so I don't know, its really close.

The people that laugh at the suggestion that Nurkic is close to Jokic are either bitter Nugget fans, or just sheep following a narrative.

What's really interesting, is that Nurkic, has a 24 PER as a blazer. Small sample size, but whatever.

Jokic, has a 26 PER for the year.

Dame is at 22.

 

[theprunetang]

Jokic is the better player. He is going to be an allstar sooner rather than later and will be in the allstar Game for years to come. He is like a center version of Dirk. Nurkic fits or team like a perfect piece to a jigsaw puzzle though. So happy we have him. Both players are good, but they are also very different and have different skill sets. I would love to have either on this team. Glad we fleeced Denver for one of them.