Who is our best post defender?

[DUB]

Vucevic killed us tonight, so specifically looking at the 4/5 positions, who do you think is our best post defender?

 

[riverman]

Ezeli

 

[Nikolokolus]

Our best post defender is currently playing for another team.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Trump posts - @blue32
Everything else - Me

 

[Minstrel]

Vucevic killed us tonight, so specifically looking at the 4/5 positions, who do you think is our best post defender?

I picked Other. Our best post defender is our porous perimeter defense because teams rarely need to bother with post-ups.

 

[Cippy91]

meyers leonard is the greatest all around player the world has seen

 

[Nikolokolus]

meyers leonard is the greatest all around player the world has seen

Makes sense since the "world" doesn't have eyes..

 

[blazedanugz]

Everyone hates Meyers but he's our best post defender...kinda surprised he literally gets zero love on here for post D

 

[Scalma]

Lillard

 

[DUB]

Everyone hates Meyers but he's our best post defender...kinda surprised he literally gets zero love on here for post D

Part of the reason I started this thread is because I'm concerned that Leonard is our best 4/5 post defender. That's not a specific criticism of Leonard, it's a concern about the structure of our roster. I'm not panicking about it, just noting that it's an area that needs to be addressed (either by personnel, or by defensive scheme).

 

[DUB]

Lillard

I agree that Lillard is a good post defender of players of a similar size/position. But he can't defend 4/5's.

 

[HailBlazers]

Leonard but he's allergic to the post. Stotts thought if he didn't feed him peanuts he wouldn't become allergic. Turns out new science has proven feeding peanuts while a baby will guard against allergy growing up.

 

[Strenuus]

I am.

I will ban the fuck out of people.

 

[riverman]

the ignore button ....and it's not even close!

 

[Mediocre Man]

The HCP

Seriously though, it's Ezeli

 

[TBpup]

Everyone hates Meyers but he's our best post defender...kinda surprised he literally gets zero love on here for post D

I think it is Leonard as well. Against bigger players in the paint, he has been as effective as anyone. Bigger centers like Gasol and Cousins are his best matchups and his defensive rating at the rim is pretty good. He doesn't have the lateral quickness to stay with anyone out on the perimeter. The best out there is Vonleh and then Plumlee of the 'bigs'. (I don't really consider Aminu a 'big')

Too bad Meyers as ZERO offensive game in the paint.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Everyone hates Meyers but he's our best post defender...kinda surprised he literally gets zero love on here for post D

In fairness to us, it's only because we've seen him play.

Offensive players literally get anywhere they want against him.

 

[Blazer4ever]

If Meyers has indeed become our best post defender, why not use him as a Center? His offensive game would make him a stretch 5 but that's not nessecarily a bad thing.
I think he could become a very key player for us. He's the most talented big we have offensively and we need some talent besides Dame and CJ on offense

 

[GDiama]

If Meyers has indeed become our best post defender, why not use him as a Center? His offensive game would make him a stretch 5 but that's not nessecarily a bad thing.
I think he could become a very key player for us. He's the most talented big we have offensively and we need some talent besides Dame and CJ on offense

The fact he can shoot the ball doesn't really make him talented offensively. And let's pretend he can shoot the ball because the %s are atrocious. Then Jodie Meeks for example is super talented, maybe we make him our go to guy?

Meyers is a 7ft candlestick, nothing more.

 

[Sarni]

If Meyers has indeed become our best post defender, why not use him as a Center? His offensive game would make him a stretch 5 but that's not nessecarily a bad thing.
I think he could become a very key player for us. He's the most talented big we have offensively and we need some talent besides Dame and CJ on offense

He can shoot (sometimes) but he is pretty useless around the rim offensively. Basically he is a center who has no center skills.

 

[Blazer4ever]

He can shoot, is athletic, not a Cousins type Center but he can score inside when facing the basket. If we play him as a stretch 5 we can use him alongside an inside scoring 4 (not sure we have this kind of player right now, maybe Davis or Vonleh) and playing him as a Center would open the paint for CJ and Dame to take the ball to the rim

 

[julius]

Their best post defender is "luck"

 

[Minstrel]

If Leonard is our best post defender (and I, personally, am not convinced of that, but let's assume it for argument), it's largely because he's at his best when he doesn't have to move or make decisions. He's still a worse defender than the other 4/5s on the roster, IMO, at help defense or containing the pick and roll. Not that the others are great at that, obviously, but even if Leonard is the team's best post defender, he's more deficient in other (more important these days) areas of defense for big men.

And honestly, circling back to my initial skepticism at the premise that Leonard is the team's best post defender, I think his reputation there is built on a few good games. This is what leads to memes like "Leonard is the Boogie-stopper!" I personally don't think Leonard distinguishes himself from anyone else on the roster as a post defender.

 

[Blazer4ever]

If Leonard is our best post defender (and I, personally, am not convinced of that, but let's assume it for argument), it's largely because he's at his best when he doesn't have to move or make decisions. He's still a worse defender than the other 4/5s on the roster, IMO, at help defense or containing the pick and roll. Not that the others are great at that, obviously, but even if Leonard is the team's best post defender, he's more deficient in other (more important these days) areas of defense for big men.

And honestly, circling back to my initial skepticism at the premise that Leonard is the team's best post defender, I think his reputation there is built on a few good games. This is what leads to memes like "Leonard is the Boogie-stopper!" I personally don't think Leonard distinguishes himself from anyone else on the roster as a post defender.

His defensive awareness is his biggest weakness since coming to the league but he's gotten better and we need his offensive abilities. Most of our players are just complimentary players on offense and Meyers is very gifted on this side of the court. He also usually plays with a lot of heart

 

[oldfisherman]

 

[Nikolokolus]

His defensive awareness is his biggest weakness since coming to the league but he's gotten better and we need his offensive abilities. Most of our players are just complimentary players on offense and Meyers is very gifted on this side of the court. He also usually plays with a lot of heart

Wut? His ONLY offensive skill is catch-and-shoot three pointers and he's currently launching a lofty 34%. He's also 7'1" and somehow only manages 38% on two point shots. That should be almost impossible.

 

[GDiama]

Meyers is very gifted on offense? How can he be so gifted but unable to score? He is 10th on per36 scoring on our roster. I suppose he would be higher than Plumlee on that one if he was so gifted offensively.

The only thing Meyers can do is catch and shoot. He cannot score with a hook or shoot off dribble-create his own shot somehow. He is a liability offensively and defensively.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Meyers is a 7ft candlestick.

nonsense.

he's 7'1".

 

[Blazer4ever]

Wut? His ONLY offensive skill is catch-and-shoot three pointers and he's currently launching a lofty 34%. He's also 7'1" and somehow only manages 38% on two point shots. That should be almost impossible.

He can catch and shoot 3 pointers and has a solid game facing the basket. He is a unique player which could be a blessing or a curse. We need to give him playing time and use him well. I think his plus-minus is mostly above the team average and he's important to our success. Prior to his injury he played very well for us and he gives us things the other bigs don't

 

[Nikolokolus]

He can catch and shoot 3 pointers and has a solid game facing the basket. He is a unique player which could be a blessing or a curse. We need to give him playing time and use him well. I think his plus-minus is mostly above the team average and he's important to our success. Prior to his injury he played very well for us and he gives us things the other bigs don't

He gives us 7.8 PER, can't defend the pick and roll, and shoots a sub-freezing 38% on two point shots. "Unique" indeed.