Who's our fifth starter?

[blazerfan11]

This might be more a more helpful comparison? Playing time for the 16 games of the 2019 playoffs.

 

[blazerfan11]

Maybe it's recency bias, but our current roster overall looks better to me than the 2018-19 team. The big advantage the 2018-19 team had was 4 guys that could play center.

 

[PDXFonz]

* Other

- Didi Louzada

What’s your second guess?

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Winslow until Christmas. If the team is playing playoff ball, Winslow stays as the starter. If not, we’ll see Hart. But I won’t count out experimental lineups of Nas or even moving Grant to the 3 and Watford at the 4.

This team is deep!

 

[BankTeller]

Winslow until Christmas. If the team is playing playoff ball, Winslow stays as the starter. If not, we’ll see Hart. But I won’t count out experimental lineups of Nas or even moving Grant to the 3 and Watford at the 4.

This team is deep!

I’m not saying Winslow starting wouldn’t work but…

Winslow is a worse shooter than Harkless and Aminu. If Grant has a resurgent season shooting the 3 and Nurk started hitting 3s at a more consistent rate, I think the combination of offense and defense would work.

But that’s a lot to ask for imo.

 

[BankTeller]

Props to Blazers Uprise, but I’ve changed my opinion in Nas starting, I think it should be Hart. If Nurk goes down, I would think that Hart would be someone to go in order to bring in another big. Makes sense even from a value standpoint to maximize it as a starter.

I have a lot of hope for Nas still, and think he’ll likely end the season starting. I just hope he doesn’t spend too much time at PF, I’d much rather just throw Watford and Walker into the fire and let them compete for the backup PF spot.

Watford went from undrafted -> 2 way -> guaranteed 3 years -> SL MVP. Walker slid far past where he thought because teams wanted to gamble for a star, he showed everyone he was a 1st round talent because he was okay NOT being a star. Compete, but build for the future. The future at PF needs minutes.

So yeah, ultimately my new answer is Hart for fifth starter.

 

[beast blazer]

Nurkic

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Props to Blazers Uprise, but I’ve changed my opinion in Nas starting, I think it should be Hart. If Nurk goes down, I would think that Hart would be someone to go in order to bring in another big. Makes sense even from a value standpoint to maximize it as a starter.

I will say, maximizing a player's trade value was definitely not an aspect I had considered as a part of this discussion.

 

[STOMP]

Ant's going to start whether we like it or not. If come January he's healthy and not starting, that's going to be a really bad sign for us and that contract.

Good grief. The team decides what each player's role is whether we like it or not as we are never consulted on anything. If come January Ant is coming off the bench, playing well & the team is winning games, no one here will be saying boo about his contract.

STOMP

 

[Freshtown]

Maybe it's recency bias, but our current roster overall looks better to me than the 2018-19 team. The big advantage the 2018-19 team had was 4 guys that could play center.

the issue with comparing our roster to 2019 is that the west is much more stacked than it was in 2019. Yes, this roster is better, but so is the rest of the west.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

SHORT GUARDS NO LONGER A PROBLEM FOR US!

 

[tykendo]

 

[Tince]

Good grief. The team decides what each player's role is whether we like it or not as we are never consulted on anything. If come January Ant is coming off the bench, playing well & the team is winning games, no one here will be saying boo about his contract.

STOMP

I'd gladly wager with you that a healthy Ant is starting in January. Do you want to take the other end of that bet? I didn't think so.

I wish I believed the NBA was ran based off of pure equity, where beind the scenes deals, agents, and contracts did not play a role in playing time.

 

[Natebishop3]

I will be surprised if the starting unit on opening night isn't:

Dame
Ant
Hart
Grant
Nurk

With a bench unit of:
Payton
Winslow
Little
Watford

I think it's debatable how much time Sharpe, Keon, and Walker will get at the start of the season. I don't see Keon being a part of the rotation. I feel for the kid because I think he's working really hard, but there's simply no minutes for him. Sharpe could see minutes at small forward, and I think Walker might sneak his way into the rotation.

I don't see Eubanks, Louzada or Brown getting any minutes at all. I think we need a consolidation trade that moves Keon and maybe Winslow for a SF/PF.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I'd gladly wager with you that a healthy Ant is starting in January. Do you want to take the other end of that bet? I didn't think so.

I wish I believed the NBA was ran based off of pure equity, where beind the scenes deals, agents, and contracts did not play a role in playing time.

I think he will start, based on the pick-up of GP2. They seem to be penciling in Hart at SF. But I don't buy your behind-the-scenes theory for a 23-year player who just got paid. A seasoned Vet who had other options to sign with....sure. But I just don't believe that any promises were made to Ant or his agent. Regardless he is going to get big minutes and it looks like he will start.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I will be surprised if the starting unit on opening night isn't:

Dame
Ant
Hart
Grant
Nurk

With a bench unit of:
Payton
Winslow
Little
Watford

I think it's debatable how much time Sharpe, Keon, and Walker will get at the start of the season. I don't see Keon being a part of the rotation. I feel for the kid because I think he's working really hard, but there's simply no minutes for him. Sharpe could see minutes at small forward, and I think Walker might sneak his way into the rotation.

I don't see Eubanks, Louzada or Brown getting any minutes at all. I think we need a consolidation trade that moves Keon and maybe Winslow for a SF/PF.

This is how I see it as well, except I think Watford/Eubanks could be situational, to begin with at BU center.

 

[HailBlazers]

I'd like to see Hart start but I get the feeling it'll be Little.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is how I see it as well, except I think Watford/Eubanks could be situational, to begin with at BU center.

Yup. This is actually how I wrote out my minutes distribution in the other thread. There's about 20 minutes of backup center time and I think it will be split up depending on what team we're facing. Could be Eubanks getting most of it, or it could be Watford or it could be something crazy like Winslow or Walker. Hard to say.

 

[THE HCP]

the issue with comparing our roster to 2019 is that the west is much more stacked than it was in 2019. Yes, this roster is better, but so is the rest of the west.

You think our CURRENT roster is better than THIS!!!!!!???? Wow!
Am I the only one who thinks this person is completely wrong?

 

[Natebishop3]

You think our CURRENT roster is better than THIS!!!!!!???? Wow!
Am I the only one who thinks this person is completely wrong?

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Considering half that roster was injured most of the season, I'd say it's nearly impossible to compare apples to apples.

 

[THE HCP]

Considering half that roster was injured most of the season, I'd say it's nearly impossible to compare apples to apples.

I believe this gentleman was simply stating that our current roster is more talented. The gist I got.

 

[Natebishop3]

I believe this gentleman was simply stating that our current roster is more talented. The gist I got.

On paper, I think our roster is probably more talented today. It's hard to know for sure because Sharpe is an unknown, Little is injured, and we haven't seen how GP2 fits into our rotation.

It's hard to sift through that roster because a bunch of those guys never played together, or had shorts stints on the team. That's 20 dudes on that roster. Melo wasn't even on that team at the start of the season. Are we comparing the opening night rosters or some combination of all the guys that played for the team that season?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I believe this gentleman was simply stating that our current roster is more talented. The gist I got.

Could compare spot for spot, if you'd like

2022 Dame v 2019 Dame - 2022 Dame is healthy for the first time in half a decade. I'll give him the nod
2022 Ant v 2019 CJ - As much as I want to say Ant, I think it's unfair to CJ to make that claim. 2019 here
2022 Hart v 2019 Harkless - Hart, easily.
2022 Grant v 2019 Aminu - Grant, easily.
2022 Nurk v 2019 Whiteside - Hassan gets the numbers, but Nurk's a better player overall.

So comparing the starting lineups, I would give 2022 the advantage over 2019 in 4 of 5 spots. Let me know if you want to go through the bench too...

 

[Natebishop3]

Could compare spot for spot, if you'd like

2022 Dame v 2019 Dame - 2022 Dame is healthy for the first time in half a decade. I'll give him the nod
2022 Ant v 2019 CJ - As much as I want to say Ant, I think it's unfair to CJ to make that claim. 2019 here
2022 Hart v 2019 Harkless - Hart, easily.
2022 Grant v 2019 Aminu - Grant, easily.
2022 Nurk v 2019 Whiteside - Hassan gets the numbers, but Nurk's a better player overall.

So comparing the starting lineups, I would give 2022 the advantage over 2019 in 4 of 5 spots. Let me know if you want to go through the bench too...

But it's like.... which bench? The opening night bench? The bench that went to the bubble?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

But it's like.... which bench? The opening night bench? The bench that went to the bubble?

Oh snap, my bad--I was looking at the 18-19 roster (the one that eventually made it to the WCF after adding Hood and Kanter).

 

[Natebishop3]

Oh snap, my bad--I was looking at the 18-19 roster (the one that eventually made it to the WCF after adding Hood and Kanter).

Yeah, HCP linked the COVID year roster so I was going off that.

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

I changed my vote from Hart to Little.
Hart is the better overall player at this time IMHO; however, having Hart run the 2nd unit was the word at the end of the season. Having Little focus on defense (playing a bit bigger than Hart) has merit in a starting line-up that can score. Having better players around him should help. It doesn’t seem a significant disparity in “Who is better?”

Little gets the nod. Earn it. Hart could certainly make it too hard not to start him. Sharpe …

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Yeah, HCP linked the COVID year roster so I was going off that.

Yeah, I got myself all confused, combining both years. Just call me an idiot and forget I said anything...

 

[THE HCP]

On paper, I think our roster is probably more talented today. It's hard to know for sure because Sharpe is an unknown, Little is injured, and we haven't seen how GP2 fits into our rotation.

It's hard to sift through that roster because a bunch of those guys never played together, or had shorts stints on the team. That's 20 dudes on that roster. Melo wasn't even on that team at the start of the season. Are we comparing the opening night rosters or some combination of all the guys that played for the team that season?

I was thinking of the guys playing down the stretch at the beginning of April, heading into the playoffs.

 

[THE HCP]

Could compare spot for spot, if you'd like

2022 Dame v 2019 Dame - 2022 Dame is healthy for the first time in half a decade. I'll give him the nod
2022 Ant v 2019 CJ - As much as I want to say Ant, I think it's unfair to CJ to make that claim. 2019 here
2022 Hart v 2019 Harkless - Hart, easily.
2022 Grant v 2019 Aminu - Grant, easily.
2022 Nurk v 2019 Whiteside - Hassan gets the numbers, but Nurk's a better player overall.

So comparing the starting lineups, I would give 2022 the advantage over 2019 in 4 of 5 spots. Let me know if you want to go through the bench too...

Just talking about the rosters.....whose on what team. Bro, our current bench that people are hyped about has quite a few G leaguers. CJ was on that team and not on the current squad. Ant is on both. Whiteside was our BACKUP. You should be comparing Hassan vs Eubanks right?