Whose side are you on?

[insider]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It is relevant. This will give you a better perspective of what kind of impact Jason Kidd had to the Nets. From lottery bound to the best in the East. How did this come about? Jason Kidd's arrival. If that's not relevant, I don't know what is. Your stand is that Kidd quit on the team. Kidd wanting to be dealt justifies your notion that Jason Kidd quit on the Nets. Right? Wrong. Follow the trail of events. Research on why Kidd came to his decision. It's not something that just happened overnight. Kidd did not quit on the Nets.</div>

It's not relevant. Why do you think that I needed to be a fan to know that the Nets sucked in the years before Kidd got there? By that same token you shouldn't know anything about the teams in the NBA except the ones you followed, and I'd be willing to bet that isn't true.

Kidd did quit on the Nets, but I didn't come to that conclusion because he wanted to be traded. Those are two separate issues. I understand why he wanted to be traded, and that's fine. But had he held himself to a professional standard he would have done his job to his best ability regardless; he didn't, he gave up, and quit on them.

Had he voiced his displeasure and continued to play at the level he is now with the Mavs, the same level he did during the Nets the past couple of years, I don't think anyone would have any ill feelings toward him. If anything, they would have respected him more for continuing to show fortitude while playing with a depleated roster. That would have been quite an example.
</div>

Kidd plays a 100% everytime he steps oon the floor. You say he didn't. I bring up his 12 triple doubles and you accuse him of playing for stats. What is it that your really want? With you, it's damn if you do and damn if you don't.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It is relevant. This will give you a better perspective of what kind of impact Jason Kidd had to the Nets. From lottery bound to the best in the East. How did this come about? Jason Kidd's arrival. If that's not relevant, I don't know what is. Your stand is that Kidd quit on the team. Kidd wanting to be dealt justifies your notion that Jason Kidd quit on the Nets. Right? Wrong. Follow the trail of events. Research on why Kidd came to his decision. It's not something that just happened overnight. Kidd did not quit on the Nets.</div>

It's not relevant. Why do you think that I needed to be a fan to know that the Nets sucked in the years before Kidd got there? By that same token you shouldn't know anything about the teams in the NBA except the ones you followed, and I'd be willing to bet that isn't true.

Kidd did quit on the Nets, but I didn't come to that conclusion because he wanted to be traded. Those are two separate issues. I understand why he wanted to be traded, and that's fine. But had he held himself to a professional standard he would have done his job to his best ability regardless; he didn't, he gave up, and quit on them.

Had he voiced his displeasure and continued to play at the level he is now with the Mavs, the same level he did during the Nets the past couple of years, I don't think anyone would have any ill feelings toward him. If anything, they would have respected him more for continuing to show fortitude while playing with a depleated roster. That would have been quite an example.
</div>

Kidd plays each game a 100%. You say he didn't. I bring up his 12 triple doubles and you accuse him of playing for stats. What is it that your really want? With you, it's damn if you do and damn if you don't.

</div>

whoaaaaaa where did I say that? You might be confusing me with someone else

Also, I think I've really made myself clear: Kidd can request a trade all he wants, but he shouldn't have stopped playing as hard as he could.

 

[insider]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It is relevant. This will give you a better perspective of what kind of impact Jason Kidd had to the Nets. From lottery bound to the best in the East. How did this come about? Jason Kidd's arrival. If that's not relevant, I don't know what is. Your stand is that Kidd quit on the team. Kidd wanting to be dealt justifies your notion that Jason Kidd quit on the Nets. Right? Wrong. Follow the trail of events. Research on why Kidd came to his decision. It's not something that just happened overnight. Kidd did not quit on the Nets.</div>

It's not relevant. Why do you think that I needed to be a fan to know that the Nets sucked in the years before Kidd got there? By that same token you shouldn't know anything about the teams in the NBA except the ones you followed, and I'd be willing to bet that isn't true.

Kidd did quit on the Nets, but I didn't come to that conclusion because he wanted to be traded. Those are two separate issues. I understand why he wanted to be traded, and that's fine. But had he held himself to a professional standard he would have done his job to his best ability regardless; he didn't, he gave up, and quit on them.

Had he voiced his displeasure and continued to play at the level he is now with the Mavs, the same level he did during the Nets the past couple of years, I don't think anyone would have any ill feelings toward him. If anything, they would have respected him more for continuing to show fortitude while playing with a depleated roster. That would have been quite an example.
</div>

Kidd plays each game a 100%. You say he didn't. I bring up his 12 triple doubles and you accuse him of playing for stats. What is it that your really want? With you, it's damn if you do and damn if you don't.

</div>

whoaaaaaa where did I say that? You might be confusing me with someone else

Also, I think I've really made myself clear: Kidd can request a trade all he wants, but he shouldn't have stopped playing as hard as he could.
</div>

Be that as it may. But fact is, Kidd didn't stop playing as you keep saying. After his alleged boycott incident, Kidd had 8 triple doubles. Not enough for you?

And another thing, he also had a stretch wherein he had 3 straight triple doubles games.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It is relevant. This will give you a better perspective of what kind of impact Jason Kidd had to the Nets. From lottery bound to the best in the East. How did this come about? Jason Kidd's arrival. If that's not relevant, I don't know what is. Your stand is that Kidd quit on the team. Kidd wanting to be dealt justifies your notion that Jason Kidd quit on the Nets. Right? Wrong. Follow the trail of events. Research on why Kidd came to his decision. It's not something that just happened overnight. Kidd did not quit on the Nets.</div>

It's not relevant. Why do you think that I needed to be a fan to know that the Nets sucked in the years before Kidd got there? By that same token you shouldn't know anything about the teams in the NBA except the ones you followed, and I'd be willing to bet that isn't true.

Kidd did quit on the Nets, but I didn't come to that conclusion because he wanted to be traded. Those are two separate issues. I understand why he wanted to be traded, and that's fine. But had he held himself to a professional standard he would have done his job to his best ability regardless; he didn't, he gave up, and quit on them.

Had he voiced his displeasure and continued to play at the level he is now with the Mavs, the same level he did during the Nets the past couple of years, I don't think anyone would have any ill feelings toward him. If anything, they would have respected him more for continuing to show fortitude while playing with a depleated roster. That would have been quite an example.
</div>

Kidd plays each game a 100%. You say he didn't. I bring up his 12 triple doubles and you accuse him of playing for stats. What is it that your really want? With you, it's damn if you do and damn if you don't.

</div>

whoaaaaaa where did I say that? You might be confusing me with someone else

Also, I think I've really made myself clear: Kidd can request a trade all he wants, but he shouldn't have stopped playing as hard as he could.
</div>

Be that as it may. But fact is, Kidd didn't stop playing as you keep saying. After his alleged boycott incident, Kidd had 8 triple doubles. Not enough for you?

</div>

Nope. I'm glad Kidd can still be an elite PG, but the its a tale of two Kidd's in ways that aren't immediately seen in the boxscore.

 

[insider]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 22 2008, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It is relevant. This will give you a better perspective of what kind of impact Jason Kidd had to the Nets. From lottery bound to the best in the East. How did this come about? Jason Kidd's arrival. If that's not relevant, I don't know what is. Your stand is that Kidd quit on the team. Kidd wanting to be dealt justifies your notion that Jason Kidd quit on the Nets. Right? Wrong. Follow the trail of events. Research on why Kidd came to his decision. It's not something that just happened overnight. Kidd did not quit on the Nets.</div>

It's not relevant. Why do you think that I needed to be a fan to know that the Nets sucked in the years before Kidd got there? By that same token you shouldn't know anything about the teams in the NBA except the ones you followed, and I'd be willing to bet that isn't true.

Kidd did quit on the Nets, but I didn't come to that conclusion because he wanted to be traded. Those are two separate issues. I understand why he wanted to be traded, and that's fine. But had he held himself to a professional standard he would have done his job to his best ability regardless; he didn't, he gave up, and quit on them.

Had he voiced his displeasure and continued to play at the level he is now with the Mavs, the same level he did during the Nets the past couple of years, I don't think anyone would have any ill feelings toward him. If anything, they would have respected him more for continuing to show fortitude while playing with a depleated roster. That would have been quite an example.
</div>

Kidd plays each game a 100%. You say he didn't. I bring up his 12 triple doubles and you accuse him of playing for stats. What is it that your really want? With you, it's damn if you do and damn if you don't.

</div>

whoaaaaaa where did I say that? You might be confusing me with someone else

Also, I think I've really made myself clear: Kidd can request a trade all he wants, but he shouldn't have stopped playing as hard as he could.
</div>

Be that as it may. But fact is, Kidd didn't stop playing as you keep saying. After his alleged boycott incident, Kidd had 8 triple doubles. Not enough for you?

</div>

Nope. I'm glad Kidd can still be an elite PG, but the its a tale of two Kidd's in ways that aren't immediately seen in the boxscore.
</div>

Well there you go. Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i disagree. west is a face up PF, yes but he is also a workhorse underneath and a damn good rebounder. he's also extremely physical and is built like an ox. if using your best ability to your advantage is being a pussy, then you are wrong</div>

I didn't say West played like a pussy, rather I said he is a pussy.

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kidd plays a 100% everytime he steps oon the floor.</div>

It is damn obvious that Kidd didn't play 100% all season for the Nets.

Kidd is a special player and he can accumulate stats without playing at 100%. However, the will and the drive to win was clearly not there for large parts of the season.

 

[Netted]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 22 2008, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kidd plays a 100% everytime he steps oon the floor.</div>

It is damn obvious that Kidd didn't play 100% all season for the Nets.

Kidd is a special player and he can accumulate stats without playing at 100%. However, the will and the drive to win was clearly not there for large parts of the season.
</div>
I totally agree and I think the stats were an audition to the rest of the league that he was not being impacted by age. The reason he got so many triple doubles during a losing season was because he was actually <u>trying</u> to get them.

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kidd plays a 100% everytime he steps oon the floor. You say he didn't. I bring up his 12 triple doubles and you accuse him of playing for stats. What is it that your really want? With you, it's damn if you do and damn if you don't.</div>

 

[killa kadafi191]

I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???

 

[insider]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
</div>

You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.

 

[insider]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
</div>

You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.
</div>

Oh really? Yeah, you'd rather see the Nets miss the playoffs than be in with Kidd still around. That's just genius.

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
</div>

You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.
</div>

Oh really? Yeah, you'd rather see the Nets miss the playoffs than be in with Kidd still around. That's just genius.

</div>

Of course. Kidd is 35 years old and declining. He didn't want to be here and he didn't care about winning here. He put in a half-assed effort and poisoned the team. I couldn't be happier that he's gone.

Ask any Nets fan if they like this trade and you will get a unanimous "HELL YES!!"

Basically, the Mavs mortgaged their future and spent a ton of money only to get utterly embarassed.

Now, that's funny!

 

[TheKidHypno]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
</div>

You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.
</div>

Oh really? Yeah, you'd rather see the Nets miss the playoffs than be in with Kidd still around. That's just genius.

</div>


Ask any Nets fan if they like this trade and you will get a unanimous "HELL YES!!"

</div>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Black Republican]

CP3 rocks the bell like LL.

 

[insider]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
</div>

You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.
</div>

Oh really? Yeah, you'd rather see the Nets miss the playoffs than be in with Kidd still around. That's just genius.

</div>

Of course. Kidd is 35 years old and declining. He didn't want to be here and he didn't care about winning here. He put in a half-assed effort and poisoned the team. I couldn't be happier that he's gone.

Ask any Nets fan if they like this trade and you will get a unanimous "HELL YES!!"

Basically, the Mavs mortgaged their future and spent a ton of money only to get utterly embarassed.

Now, that's funny!

</div>

What's funny is that your celebrating the fact that the best thing that has ever happened to this franchise is now gone. Back to the lottery the Nets go. The Mavs spent money to win. It takes money to make money. They want to win and they were willing to pay the price for winning. A gamble? Yes. But that's the way it goes. Teams are in the league to win. Not just to be in the league and hope to be in the playoffs from time to time. Their in it to win the whole thing. Thorn and the Nets wasn't willing to do that. They want to win but at a limited price. Go on and continue to "kidd" yourself that your happy that Kidd is gone. Anyway, you'll need something to do as the Nets will have to go home early every year for missing the playoffs. And another thing, wish hard that your delusions of getting Lebron in 2010 becomes a reality. goodluck with that. Believe me you'll need it.

 

[killa kadafi191]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
</div>

You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.
</div>

Oh really? Yeah, you'd rather see the Nets miss the playoffs than be in with Kidd still around. That's just genius.

</div>


Hell yea. We weren't beating Boston or the pistons. How about the Mavs how are they doing that's right they traded a young point guard for a 35 yr old cry baby.


I mean the Mavs went from the finals to possibly losing to another young team first time in the playoffs two years in a row.

We all know Mark Cuban has messed up. Dirk already showed he can't be the player now where do the mavs go from here????

Oh yea, down.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What's funny is that your celebrating the fact that the best thing that has ever happened to this franchise is now gone. Back to the lottery the Nets go. The Mavs spent money to win. It takes money to make money. They want to win and they were willing to pay the price for winning. A gamble? Yes. But that's the way it goes. Teams are in the league to win. Not just to be in the league and hope to be in the playoffs from time to time. Their in it to win the whole thing. Thorn and the Nets wasn't willing to do that. They want to win but at a limited price. Go on and continue to "kidd" yourself that your happy that Kidd is gone. Anyway, you'll need something to do as the Nets will have to go home early every year for missing the playoffs. And another thing, wish hard that your delusions of getting Lebron in 2010 becomes a reality. goodluck with that. Believe me you'll need it.</div>

I'll be replying to your points in bold:

1) There's a difference between past and present
2) What have the Mavs won? Their under performing based on how the team supposedly should be with Kidd.
3) I don't like your posting style. You repeatedly bring in off-topic crap to fill up a post when you can't make a valid point yourself. If you want to take a passive-aggressive shot, do so by making a good point in a post.

You're Better Than That!

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel“?</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
</div>

You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.
</div>

Oh really? Yeah, you'd rather see the Nets miss the playoffs than be in with Kidd still around. That's just genius.

</div>

Of course. Kidd is 35 years old and declining. He didn't want to be here and he didn't care about winning here. He put in a half-assed effort and poisoned the team. I couldn't be happier that he's gone.

Ask any Nets fan if they like this trade and you will get a unanimous "HELL YES!!"

Basically, the Mavs mortgaged their future and spent a ton of money only to get utterly embarassed.

Now, that's funny!

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What's funny is that your celebrating the fact that the best thing that has ever happened to this franchise is now gone. Back to the lottery the Nets go. The Mavs spent money to win. It takes money to make money. They want to win and they were willing to pay the price for winning. A gamble? Yes. But that's the way it goes. Teams are in the league to win. Not just to be in the league and hope to be in the playoffs from time to time. Their in it to win the whole thing. Thorn and the Nets wasn't willing to do that. They want to win but at a limited price. Go on and continue to "kidd" yourself that your happy that Kidd is gone. Anyway, you'll need something to do as the Nets will have to go home early every year for missing the playoffs. And another thing, wish hard that your delusions of getting Lebron in 2010 becomes a reality. goodluck with that. Believe me you'll need it.
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Dr. J is gone, too. I doubt he could help much either.

(But I guarantee he would at least show up for every game and try and earn his gigantic paycheck.)

 

[insider]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel“?</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
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You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.
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Oh really? Yeah, you'd rather see the Nets miss the playoffs than be in with Kidd still around. That's just genius.

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Of course. Kidd is 35 years old and declining. He didn't want to be here and he didn't care about winning here. He put in a half-assed effort and poisoned the team. I couldn't be happier that he's gone.

Ask any Nets fan if they like this trade and you will get a unanimous "HELL YES!!"

Basically, the Mavs mortgaged their future and spent a ton of money only to get utterly embarassed.

Now, that's funny!

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What's funny is that your celebrating the fact that the best thing that has ever happened to this franchise is now gone. Back to the lottery the Nets go. The Mavs spent money to win. It takes money to make money. They want to win and they were willing to pay the price for winning. A gamble? Yes. But that's the way it goes. Teams are in the league to win. Not just to be in the league and hope to be in the playoffs from time to time. Their in it to win the whole thing. Thorn and the Nets wasn't willing to do that. They want to win but at a limited price. Go on and continue to "kidd" yourself that your happy that Kidd is gone. Anyway, you'll need something to do as the Nets will have to go home early every year for missing the playoffs. And another thing, wish hard that your delusions of getting Lebron in 2010 becomes a reality. goodluck with that. Believe me you'll need it.
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Dr. J is gone, too. I doubt he could help much either.

(But I guarantee he would at least show up for every game and try and earn his gigantic paycheck.)
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Kidd had 12 triple doubles for the Nets this season. Can you say the same to another Net player? Or even the entire NBA?

 

[killa kadafi191]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember posting when the trade went down that the mavs would continue on down spiral.

Mark Cuban you just ruined your franchise by trading for a 35 year old cry baby. How do you feel???</div>

His probably looking forward to game 3. So how's Thorn doing sitting at home with the Nets out of the playoffs?
</div>

You keep saying this like it's some kind of great thing Kidd did. The Nets missed the playoffs because Kidd is a douche and they wisely decided to dump him rather than keep him and get blitzed once again in the playoffs (just like the Mavs are doing).

So far I'm guessing Cuban wants to murder him.
</div>

Oh really? Yeah, you'd rather see the Nets miss the playoffs than be in with Kidd still around. That's just genius.

</div>

Of course. Kidd is 35 years old and declining. He didn't want to be here and he didn't care about winning here. He put in a half-assed effort and poisoned the team. I couldn't be happier that he's gone.

Ask any Nets fan if they like this trade and you will get a unanimous "HELL YES!!"

Basically, the Mavs mortgaged their future and spent a ton of money only to get utterly embarassed.

Now, that's funny!

</div>

What's funny is that your celebrating the fact that the best thing that has ever happened to this franchise is now gone. Back to the lottery the Nets go. The Mavs spent money to win. It takes money to make money. They want to win and they were willing to pay the price for winning. A gamble? Yes. But that's the way it goes. Teams are in the league to win. Not just to be in the league and hope to be in the playoffs from time to time. Their in it to win the whole thing. Thorn and the Nets wasn't willing to do that. They want to win but at a limited price. Go on and continue to "kidd" yourself that your happy that Kidd is gone. Anyway, you'll need something to do as the Nets will have to go home early every year for missing the playoffs. And another thing, wish hard that your delusions of getting Lebron in 2010 becomes a reality. goodluck with that. Believe me you'll need it.
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Good luck with Dirk. He's good for the regular season but softer than a marshmallow. David West pulled his card in gm 1. So that's Stephan Jackson D Wade and now West.

who will be on the list next year Kevin Love.

Also to be honest you guys weren't doing anything with or without kidd. The best thing to happen to the nets in a long while might be gone but the highlight of the Mavs will be being up 2 games and losing in the finals. Winning 67 games and a player win MVP to lose in the first round to an 8th seed team.

The Nets at least made it back to finals. Too bad u guys can't say that but hey the way the west is going Thorn might not be the only GM with his team out of the playoffs. You guys hardly made it.

 

[Balla 15]

This insider guy reminds me of that article earlier this year: TRIPLE-DOUBBBLESS!!

 

[ghoti]

Kidd led the league in fake migraines and unwanted crotch grabs, too, but none of those things would help the Nets beat the Celtics even once in a playoff series.

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>

What's funny is that your celebrating the fact that the best thing that has ever happened to this franchise is now gone. Back to the lottery the Nets go. The Mavs spent money to win. It takes money to make money. They want to win and they were willing to pay the price for winning. A gamble? Yes. But that's the way it goes. Teams are in the league to win. Not just to be in the league and hope to be in the playoffs from time to time. Their in it to win the whole thing. Thorn and the Nets wasn't willing to do that. They want to win but at a limited price. Go on and continue to "kidd" yourself that your happy that Kidd is gone. Anyway, you'll need something to do as the Nets will have to go home early every year for missing the playoffs. And another thing, wish hard that your delusions of getting Lebron in 2010 becomes a reality. goodluck with that. Believe me you'll need it.</div>

Dr. J is gone, too. I doubt he could help much either.

(But I guarantee he would at least show up for every game and try and earn his gigantic paycheck.)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 22 2008, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kidd led the league in fake migraines and unwanted crotch grabs, too, but none of those things would help the Nets beat the Celtics even once in a playoff series.</div>

Oh god. You're killin me ghoti, I'm dyin over here!


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Balla 15 @ Apr 22 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This insider guy reminds me of that article earlier this year: TRIPLE-DOUBBBLESS!!</div>
Haha, that's exactly what I was thinking! So where's Kidd's TRIPLE-DOUBLESSSS been in the playoffs, when they've needed them the most, and when they've mattered the most? Hell, he didn't even get any double-doubles.

 

[petro lives]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ Apr 22 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Go on and continue to "kidd" yourself that your happy that Kidd is gone.</div>


Are you a Mavs fan or a Kidd Fan? It really befuddles me in wondering where your loyalties actually lie, as Kidd pulled some rotten things in Dallas his first time around.

And why in the world would you think that people (fans) that are DEVOTED to their team would not be happy that a player that no longer wants to play for them is finally sent away? You really think that we should've been happy this year with the way things were going with him? Are you saying that we should have been happy to keep an unhappy player on this team? Are you a friggin idiot?

"YAY, I just want my best player to absolutely despise playing here!!"

You're an absolute moron to even think that a person that follows this team first and foremost would be happy to keep a player like that, no matter how good is or was... or even for that matter what he had done for this team. I bet you that an overwhelming majority of Nets fans appreciate what Jason did for the team the first few years here when we were in top 5 best teams in the East. But does that mean we have to sit here and say "GOODY!" when he says he wants to leave!! Don't you understand that we HAVE to be happy that he leaves“

You are WAY too simple-minded to distinguish between ANGER about him wanting to leave, and HAPPINESS when we finally got rid of a player that doesn't want to be here. You think any fan of a team in his right mind would want to have a player that doesn't want to be there?

You must be totally illiterate. I would make a bet that you weren't even born in this country judging by your blatant inability to read, and as a matter of fact the overly simplistic usage of your writing. Go back to your little hole and those little sexual fantasies you have that include Dirk and Jason.

As a lifelong Nets fan, you better believe that I am PISSED off to no end on how this season ended up. And you better believe that Jason Kidd was a major reason for it. I hope Jason F-Up's your post-season just like he did to our regular season.

 

[GMJ]

Hey Petro welcome to S2! Shoot me a PM if you have any questions about the site

 

[soul driver]

Petro's serious.

To answer the simple question of the thread: I'm going with the Hornets.
I believe Scott has paid his dues as a coach, and has some amazing talent on his roster that he knows how to work with.

As a Net fan, I say thank you Kidd for the glory days part 2 (the first being the ABA team) but let's face it, also as a Net fan I care about the CURRENT ROSTER of the Nets, in which Kidd is not part of. The "glory days" are long gone. There will be another chapter though, you can count on it. And Jason Kidd won't be a part of it and hell, maybe none of the guys on the current roster will be either. A disappointing season it was, but next season will be more exciting than this season for various reasons. Can't wait.

As tough as this year was, it's great to be a Nets fan.

 

[pegs]

Preach, petro!

And welcome to S2!

 

[Balla 15]

The funny part about all of this is if you watch Dallas now they look exactly like the Nets did earlier this year. I wonder how many times they've been down 20 since they acquired Kidd? While the Nets didn't seem to be down 20 by half time or down 20 all that much at all once Kidd was traded.