Why didn’t Biggie or Collins play?

[tlongII]

Aminu sucked last night, but Swanigan and Collins didn’t sniff the floor. Why is that? Stotts got some splainin to do.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Tight game. Doesn't trust them yet.

 

[Denny Crane]

Looked to me like Stotts really wanted to go with a tight 8 man rotation. He ended up playing Napier because he needed the extra scorer and matchup.

 

[andalusian]

The interesting thing is what will Collins be in 2 years - because if he fills up and learns quickly - he might be the guy you put on someone like the Freak. Not playing him last night however was more than reasonable. We were one questionable non-call on CJ from winning it.

 

[blue9]

Tater Totts is maddening! I mean, maybe someone else would have done an even worse job defending Giannis than Turner/Aminu, but you gotta at least TRY someone else to see if they can do better. I'm not on the Jake Train, but Jake at least has more size than Turner and would have made it harder for Giannis to shoot over the top of him. He's athletic enough that if you tell him his only responsibility is to stick on Giannis like glue, there's a decent enough chance that he defends at least as well as Turner and perhaps a bit better.

I really don't get why we stuck with an 8-man rotation when we were on the 2nd of a B2B and our players were either (a) looking gassed or (b) getting lit the fuck up. This was the 3rd game of the season, not the Playoffs!

 

[SIeepwalker]

Tater Totts is maddening! I mean, maybe someone else would have done an even worse job defending Giannis than Turner/Aminu, but you gotta at least TRY someone else to see if they can do better. I'm not on the Jake Train, but Jake at least has more size than Turner and would have made it harder for Giannis to shoot over the top of him. He's athletic enough that if you tell him his only responsibility is to stick on Giannis like glue, there's a decent enough chance that he defends at least as well as Turner and perhaps a bit better.

I really don't get why we stuck with an 8-man rotation when we were on the 2nd of a B2B and our players were either (a) looking gassed or (b) getting lit the fuck up. This was the 3rd game of the season, not the Playoffs!

You trying with each of you post to hate on Stotts for any dumbass reason you can come up with is riddiculous.

Jake Layman ? Come on.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

I’m shocked that our coach didn’t try two completely unproven rookies against the most mobile and athletic seven-footer maybe ever, in a game in which we were never more than two possessions out of the lead! What the hell!

 

[tlongII]

It was dumb. This is exactly when you play Collins and Swanigan.

 

[Denny Crane]

I can see that Swanigan wasn't a good fit for the kinds of lineups the Bucks were using. He'd have to guard a SF. He'd have been good on the boards, and he surely brings good energy.

Using Layman would have been a desperation move. As it went, we were ahead with < 1 minute left and really should have won if we executed.

 

[blue9]

You trying with each of you post to hate on Stotts for any dumbass reason you can come up for is riddiculous.

Jake Layman ? Come on.

I hate Stotts. I do. I won't deny it.
But when something isn't working, you gotta try something else. Jake is big, athletic, and smart - replace Aminu with Jake, slide Turner onto Middleton. Good chance the defense improves and there's zero drop-off in offense.
There are tons of reasons I hate Stotts, and this was but a drop in the bucket.

 

[blue9]

I can see that Swanigan wasn't a good fit for the kinds of lineups the Bucks were using. He'd have to guard a SF. He'd have been good on the boards, and he surely brings good energy.

Using Layman would have been a desperation move. As it went, we were ahead with < 1 minute left and really should have won if we executed.

I believe we were outscored 25-9 at one point - that would have been a good time to feel a little desperate and try to actually affect the player who is thrashing us.

 

[Denny Crane]

I believe we were outscored 25-9 at one point - that would have been a good time to feel a little desperate and try to actually affect the player who is thrashing us.

We probably would have been outscored even more with Layman out there.

 

[BrunoSOC]

He should try Moe defend The Greek

 

[tlongII]

I would have tried Collins on the freak.

 

[blue9]

We probably would have been outscored even more with Layman out there.

But we'll never know.
And I'm not even talking about the 4th quarter - how about the 2nd quarter when we had our biggest lead and then gave it all away? That would have been a prime time to try something new.
I just looked it up because I was curious what the point swing was - it was an 18 point swing in the 2nd quarter!

 

[SportsAndWhine]

I believe we were outscored 25-9 at one point - that would have been a good time to feel a little desperate and try to actually affect the player who is thrashing us.

Yes because desperation in the second quarter is a quality I look for in a coach.

 

[SIeepwalker]

replace Aminu with Jake, slide Turner onto Middleton. Good chance the defense improves and there's zero drop-off in offense.

What are you talking about ? If Jake was better than Aminu on both sides of the ball, he would be starting.

 

[Scalma]

Because neither matched up with Teletovic, who lives on the perimeter.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Tight game. Doesn't trust them yet.

This and they have a couple nights off before the next game. This is only game 3. There will be plenty of time for them to be eased in.

 

[Trackjack]

Collins would been my choice due to he long and he does play pretty good D. His problem would be his strength but still his length would still bother shots.

 

[SIeepwalker]

Zach might become our best greek freak stopper down the road, but I don't think it would have been pretty last night

 

[noknobs]

I don't like that Stotts is always the coach who changes his rotation to match up with the other team, and not vice versa. How about you play your bigs who deserve consistent playing time, especially early in the season on the 2nd of a back to back and make The Bucks adapt to you? With Turner out that is where we could have really outplayed them.

Also, I think it's beneficial for young rookies to get consistent playing time (if they deserve it, and they do). When they don't get consistent minutes is typically when they'll put too much pressure on themselves when they do get playing time. Consistency breeds confidence.

 

[ripcityboy]

Yeah. I thought he would go with a bigger rotation. Gotta think he will eventually give them consistent playing time given the length of the season.

 

[rotary111]

I'll give coach a pass on not playing them this early in the season. If they keep showing the same level of maturity and growth on the court though...

 

[TBpup]

The best defensive option might just be injured. Noah is one of the few that has the size and the length along with the ability to guard on the perimeter that might have at least slowed the GF down a little. Anything was worth a shot as he was having his way with everyone else.

 

[Denny Crane]

The best defensive option might just be injured. Noah is one of the few that has the size and the length along with the ability to guard on the perimeter that might have at least slowed the GF down a little. Anything was worth a shot as he was having his way with everyone else.

He may have helped Nurk play better, too.

 

[TBpup]

He may have helped Nurk play better, too.

They were beasting when they were together. Hopefully Vonleh can come back strong and they can become that big, brute force that they were last year for a stretch.

 

[THE HCP]

Didn't read this thread,.....but it;s because they are unproven rookies. Plain and simple.

 

[andalusian]

Zach Collins had problems with TJ Leaf the game before. He has all the tools to be something special in the future - but it is way too early to put him in and expect him to slow the freak.

 

[Denny Crane]

I’m not sure Zach is convincing the coaches he can chase stretch 4s on the perimeter or switch out there onto smaller guys on picks.