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CupWizier said:
His game is lying and attacking innocent people with derogatory names and hooking up with criminals and enabling them. . He also is obsessed with anything that has Obama attached to it as he continually tries to destroy policies that were passed during that administration. Is that the game the rest of the country needs to adhere to? He doesn't care if it helps the country he just cares that anything Obama did is eliminated.
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I've got friends in fire & rescue when you're on suicide watch come November.
 
MARIS61 said:
The Statue of Liberty's original purpose was to celebrate the friendship between America and France, how it helped Americans achieve liberty, and most importantly celebrate our Republic which guarantees that liberty.

It had nothing whatsoever to do with immigration, welcoming immigrants, or even acknowledging immigrants.

The poem was added nearly 2 decades after the statue was placed, 38 years after it's creation began, by elite liberal activists against the wishes of many Americans and the artist who created it in the first place. Defacing an historic monument from an ally and converting it to a political ad.

The modern day equivalent of Michael Jackson buying The Beatles' songs, then selling them to be used for advertising products.
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Every time you post you show your ignorance.

"It had nothing whatsoever to do with immigration, welcoming immigrants, or even acknowledging immigrants."

Really?...How the hell do you think this country was founded?
 
Orion Bailey said:
Right now i see many more dems not working on solutions, but pointing fingers.

Democrats 2020 campaign agenda:
hate trump
Impeach trump
Attack trump
Not so far from the truth from what i see.
If only i heard more positive ideas and solutions for the future from the dems, i might be influenced to vote for a dem candidate, but as long as its just a hate driven agenda, it turns me back to vote my party line.
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Maybe there's a bit of willful ignorance of the democratic agenda on your part? Here's a list of bills (that I found on the web) the Democratic-controlled House passed this past year.
You may not think any of them are good ideas, but I think you would be hard pressed to classify all of them as 'hate Trump, impeach Trump, attack Trump'.

Health care
  • House Resolution 259 — Medicaid Extenders Act of 2019
  • H.R. 271 — Condemning the Trump Administration’s Legal Campaign to Take Away Americans’ Health Care
  • H.R. 986 — Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019
  • H.R. 987 — Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act
  • H.R. 1520, the Purple Book Continuity Act (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
  • H.R. 1503, the Orange Book Transparency Act of 2019 (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
Civil rights
  • H.R. 1 — For the People Act of 2019
  • H.R. 5 — Equality Act
  • H.R. 6 — American Dream and Promise Act
  • H.R. 7 — Paycheck Fairness Act
  • H.R. 124 — Expressing opposition to banning service in the Armed Forces by openly transgender individuals
Gun control
  • H.R. 8 — Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019
  • H.R. 1112 — Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019
Environment
  • H.R. 9 — Climate Action Now Act
  • H.R. 1331 — Local Water Protection Act
  • S. 47 — National Resources Management Act
  • H.R. 2578 — National Flood Insurance Program Extension Act of 2019
  • H.R. 205, 1146, 1941 — Banning Offshore Drilling on Atlantic, Pacific, Eastern Gulf and ANWR Coasts
Military/foreign affairs
  • H.R. 840 — Veterans’ Access to Child Care Act
  • H.J. Res. 37 — Directing the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
  • S.J. Res. 7 — To direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
  • H.R. 31 — Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019
  • H.J. Res. 30 — Disapproving the President’s proposal to take an action relating to the application of certain sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation
  • H.R. 4695 — Protect Against Conflict by Turkey Act
  • H.R. 676 — NATO Support Act
  • H.R. 549 — Venezuela TPS Act
Other major legislation
  • H.R. 1585 — Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019
  • H.R. 987 — Raise the Wage Act
  • H.R. 1500 — Consumers First Act
  • H.R. 1994 — SECURE Act/Gold Star Family Tax Relief Act
  • H.R. 2722 — Securing America’s Federal Elections (SAFE) Act
  • H.R. 4617 — Stopping Harmful Interference in Elections for a Lasting Democracy (SHIELD) Act
  • H.R. 1644 — Save the Internet Act of 2019
  • H.R. 2157 — Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019
  • H.R. 397 — Rehabilitation for Multiemployer Pensions Act (The Butch Lewis Act)
  • H.R. 2513 — The Corporate Transparency Act
  • H.R. 269 — Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act of 2019
  • H.R. 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Program Extension Act
  • S.24 — Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
  • H.R. 430 — TANF Extension Act of 2019
  • Concurring in the Senate Amendments to HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standard Program Extension Act
  • H.R. 790 — Federal Civilian Workforce Pay Raise Fairness Act of 2019
  • HJ Res. 46 — Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019
  • H Res. 183 — Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States, as amended
  • H Res. 194 — Rule Providing for Consideration of H.R. 1644 and H.R. 2021
  • H.R. 2480 — Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act
  • H.R. 375 — To amend the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian Tribes (also known as the “Carcieri Fix”)

barfo
 
barfo said:
Maybe there's a bit of willful ignorance of the democratic agenda on your part? Here's a list of bills (that I found on the web) the Democratic-controlled House passed this past year.
You may not think any of them are good ideas, but I think you would be hard pressed to classify all of them as 'hate Trump, impeach Trump, attack Trump'.

Health care
  • House Resolution 259 — Medicaid Extenders Act of 2019
  • H.R. 271 — Condemning the Trump Administration’s Legal Campaign to Take Away Americans’ Health Care
  • H.R. 986 — Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019
  • H.R. 987 — Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act
  • H.R. 1520, the Purple Book Continuity Act (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
  • H.R. 1503, the Orange Book Transparency Act of 2019 (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
Civil rights
  • H.R. 1 — For the People Act of 2019
  • H.R. 5 — Equality Act
  • H.R. 6 — American Dream and Promise Act
  • H.R. 7 — Paycheck Fairness Act
  • H.R. 124 — Expressing opposition to banning service in the Armed Forces by openly transgender individuals
Gun control
  • H.R. 8 — Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019
  • H.R. 1112 — Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019
Environment
  • H.R. 9 — Climate Action Now Act
  • H.R. 1331 — Local Water Protection Act
  • S. 47 — National Resources Management Act
  • H.R. 2578 — National Flood Insurance Program Extension Act of 2019
  • H.R. 205, 1146, 1941 — Banning Offshore Drilling on Atlantic, Pacific, Eastern Gulf and ANWR Coasts
Military/foreign affairs
  • H.R. 840 — Veterans’ Access to Child Care Act
  • H.J. Res. 37 — Directing the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
  • S.J. Res. 7 — To direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
  • H.R. 31 — Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019
  • H.J. Res. 30 — Disapproving the President’s proposal to take an action relating to the application of certain sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation
  • H.R. 4695 — Protect Against Conflict by Turkey Act
  • H.R. 676 — NATO Support Act
  • H.R. 549 — Venezuela TPS Act
Other major legislation
  • H.R. 1585 — Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019
  • H.R. 987 — Raise the Wage Act
  • H.R. 1500 — Consumers First Act
  • H.R. 1994 — SECURE Act/Gold Star Family Tax Relief Act
  • H.R. 2722 — Securing America’s Federal Elections (SAFE) Act
  • H.R. 4617 — Stopping Harmful Interference in Elections for a Lasting Democracy (SHIELD) Act
  • H.R. 1644 — Save the Internet Act of 2019
  • H.R. 2157 — Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019
  • H.R. 397 — Rehabilitation for Multiemployer Pensions Act (The Butch Lewis Act)
  • H.R. 2513 — The Corporate Transparency Act
  • H.R. 269 — Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act of 2019
  • H.R. 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Program Extension Act
  • S.24 — Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
  • H.R. 430 — TANF Extension Act of 2019
  • Concurring in the Senate Amendments to HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standard Program Extension Act
  • H.R. 790 — Federal Civilian Workforce Pay Raise Fairness Act of 2019
  • HJ Res. 46 — Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019
  • H Res. 183 — Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States, as amended
  • H Res. 194 — Rule Providing for Consideration of H.R. 1644 and H.R. 2021
  • H.R. 2480 — Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act
  • H.R. 375 — To amend the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian Tribes (also known as the “Carcieri Fix”)

barfo
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I remember hearing there are like 200 bills on moscow mitche's desk from the house that he has refused to bring to the floor as he is only interested in trying to stack the court system with judges. trump is the party of corruption and his blind followers have no clue and they sit back and continue to make excuses for him. We have some trump puppets in this forum and in this thread.
 
twobullz said:
So what you are saying is you don't care about any of the illegal things trump has done. All you care about is the southern border. Really that is your biggest issue?
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First, you do not have a clue what I think.

As far as Trump. What I care about is the "process" of finding out if what he did was illegal, or not.

FYI, I did not vote for Trump. I do not like how he does things. And if you research my past posts on Trump. You will find my prediction made before he became president, that he would self destruct.

So if he is found guilty, we move on to fixing this countries problems. If not, he is a better option then the dem candidates. Which should tell you something about how bad I think they are.

We deal every day with people that have lied to us, and have done something illegal. So yes, I do care about my families safety much more than ranting about yet one more alledged criminal.
 
oldfisherman said:
As a businessman my entire career, I am very tired of the endless line of lawyers ruining our country.

However, I am concerned Trump’s crazy ego and total lack of diplomacy skills would get us into a stupid world war. He is a power maniac and more dangerous than Putin.

I would never do business with Trump, let alone want him to be Pres..
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oldfisherman said:
Trump’s narcissistic behavior maybe new to most people; however, it has been well documented for many decades in the business world. His has a huge sense of entitlement and self-centeredness. He has an excessive need for attention and admiration from others, while lacking feelings of empathy. He has been the joke of the business world for decades. If elected president, he will only take care of one person, Donald Trump.

This old joke sums up the Trumpster.

Donald Trump walks onto an elevator; the only other person on the elevator is an attractive 20 something female. The door closes and the ride begins. The attractive young lady tells the Trumpster that she wants to hit the emergency stop button, get down on her knees and give him a blow job. The Trumpster thinks for a second, and then asks her, “what's in it for me?”.
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oldfisherman said:
Trump only gets my vote if his hair is flying at half mast on a Mexico City flag pole.
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ABM said:
Thus far, you're missing on that notion...
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ABM, I also could not find that post. Maybe I made the comment on another site? Added a few of my many Trump quotes made before the election, for laughs.
 
oldfisherman said:
The focus is not on Hispanics. The focus is on anyone that can harm our country and citizens.

It is well known that terrorist organizations have working relations with drug/people smugglers in Mexico.

Here is the point the dems are missing.

I do not believe Trumps wall is the best answer to this problem. But, it is a far better answer than the dems response of leading their tribe over a cliff and diving head first into quicksand.

My point is, the dems need to be selling a better product than Trump. Come up with a better plan that addresses immigration issues, both outside and inside our country, and I will vote for it.

Beat Trump at his own game.
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100,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records, including overstays which are illegal immigrants, were deported in 2018. From all over the world.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Every time you post you show your ignorance.

"It had nothing whatsoever to do with immigration, welcoming immigrants, or even acknowledging immigrants."

Really?...How the hell do you think this country was founded?
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I was referring to the Statue of Liberty.

WTF are you babbling about now?
 
barfo said:
Maybe there's a bit of willful ignorance of the democratic agenda on your part? Here's a list of bills (that I found on the web) the Democratic-controlled House passed this past year.
You may not think any of them are good ideas, but I think you would be hard pressed to classify all of them as 'hate Trump, impeach Trump, attack Trump'.

Health care
  • House Resolution 259 — Medicaid Extenders Act of 2019
  • H.R. 271 — Condemning the Trump Administration’s Legal Campaign to Take Away Americans’ Health Care
  • H.R. 986 — Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019
  • H.R. 987 — Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act
  • H.R. 1520, the Purple Book Continuity Act (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
  • H.R. 1503, the Orange Book Transparency Act of 2019 (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
Civil rights
  • H.R. 1 — For the People Act of 2019
  • H.R. 5 — Equality Act
  • H.R. 6 — American Dream and Promise Act
  • H.R. 7 — Paycheck Fairness Act
  • H.R. 124 — Expressing opposition to banning service in the Armed Forces by openly transgender individuals
Gun control
  • H.R. 8 — Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019
  • H.R. 1112 — Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019
Environment
  • H.R. 9 — Climate Action Now Act
  • H.R. 1331 — Local Water Protection Act
  • S. 47 — National Resources Management Act
  • H.R. 2578 — National Flood Insurance Program Extension Act of 2019
  • H.R. 205, 1146, 1941 — Banning Offshore Drilling on Atlantic, Pacific, Eastern Gulf and ANWR Coasts
Military/foreign affairs
  • H.R. 840 — Veterans’ Access to Child Care Act
  • H.J. Res. 37 — Directing the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
  • S.J. Res. 7 — To direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
  • H.R. 31 — Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019
  • H.J. Res. 30 — Disapproving the President’s proposal to take an action relating to the application of certain sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation
  • H.R. 4695 — Protect Against Conflict by Turkey Act
  • H.R. 676 — NATO Support Act
  • H.R. 549 — Venezuela TPS Act
Other major legislation
  • H.R. 1585 — Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019
  • H.R. 987 — Raise the Wage Act
  • H.R. 1500 — Consumers First Act
  • H.R. 1994 — SECURE Act/Gold Star Family Tax Relief Act
  • H.R. 2722 — Securing America’s Federal Elections (SAFE) Act
  • H.R. 4617 — Stopping Harmful Interference in Elections for a Lasting Democracy (SHIELD) Act
  • H.R. 1644 — Save the Internet Act of 2019
  • H.R. 2157 — Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019
  • H.R. 397 — Rehabilitation for Multiemployer Pensions Act (The Butch Lewis Act)
  • H.R. 2513 — The Corporate Transparency Act
  • H.R. 269 — Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act of 2019
  • H.R. 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Program Extension Act
  • S.24 — Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
  • H.R. 430 — TANF Extension Act of 2019
  • Concurring in the Senate Amendments to HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standard Program Extension Act
  • H.R. 790 — Federal Civilian Workforce Pay Raise Fairness Act of 2019
  • HJ Res. 46 — Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019
  • H Res. 183 — Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States, as amended
  • H Res. 194 — Rule Providing for Consideration of H.R. 1644 and H.R. 2021
  • H.R. 2480 — Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act
  • H.R. 375 — To amend the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian Tribes (also known as the “Carcieri Fix”)

barfo
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Nothing of any substance at all. Empty, rigged versions of better bills that they obstructed in the House. Tons of meaningless resolutions and hypocrisy. Massive bloating of the government, all on taxes stolen from the middle class and our military and seniors.
Cowardice and treason when faced with dangerous enemies. Endless wars,
election riggings and spying on American Citizens.
That's the Dem platform.
 
Maris answered. Because Trump is their god. He is divine and perfect. We mere mortals can't judge him.
 
ABM said:
Afterall, who is government? Oh, and don't forget about those pesky Libertarians. They may be on to something.
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We the voters have as much control of the government as we want.
 
It's not that Republicans don't care. It's often times that they are rightfully questioning about why the resonse is so different from president to president. The aid was actually approved under Obama's administration....and Ukraine never got it. But not one word of question, investigation or an eybrow raised when that didn't happen even though there are now starting to be details of how involved some of our politicians are in corruption over there. Ukraine has long been very corrupt and for better or worse, Trump has an issue with that.

No one seemed to care when Biden (on video) said exactly what Trump is being accused of. He bragged about witholding the aid until the person looking into his son's corruption was fired. Not a single word! But when Trump then inquired of the incident and details around it, complete havoc. The supposed meeting required to get the aid....didn't occur. Everyone involved in the conversation said no pressure was exerted and no investigation ever took place...and yet Ukraine still got the mony....under Trump.

Now we may never know every last detail of what happened under either administration but there are certain facts (due to Joe's bradgadocious) that we can at least objectively look at and ask, 'Why such a different respones?"
 
barfo said:
Maybe there's a bit of willful ignorance of the democratic agenda on your part? Here's a list of bills (that I found on the web) the Democratic-controlled House passed this past year.
You may not think any of them are good ideas, but I think you would be hard pressed to classify all of them as 'hate Trump, impeach Trump, attack Trump'.

Health care
  • House Resolution 259 — Medicaid Extenders Act of 2019
  • H.R. 271 — Condemning the Trump Administration’s Legal Campaign to Take Away Americans’ Health Care
  • H.R. 986 — Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019
  • H.R. 987 — Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act
  • H.R. 1520, the Purple Book Continuity Act (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
  • H.R. 1503, the Orange Book Transparency Act of 2019 (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
Civil rights
  • H.R. 1 — For the People Act of 2019
  • H.R. 5 — Equality Act
  • H.R. 6 — American Dream and Promise Act
  • H.R. 7 — Paycheck Fairness Act
  • H.R. 124 — Expressing opposition to banning service in the Armed Forces by openly transgender individuals
Gun control
  • H.R. 8 — Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019
  • H.R. 1112 — Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019
Environment
  • H.R. 9 — Climate Action Now Act
  • H.R. 1331 — Local Water Protection Act
  • S. 47 — National Resources Management Act
  • H.R. 2578 — National Flood Insurance Program Extension Act of 2019
  • H.R. 205, 1146, 1941 — Banning Offshore Drilling on Atlantic, Pacific, Eastern Gulf and ANWR Coasts
Military/foreign affairs
  • H.R. 840 — Veterans’ Access to Child Care Act
  • H.J. Res. 37 — Directing the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
  • S.J. Res. 7 — To direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
  • H.R. 31 — Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019
  • H.J. Res. 30 — Disapproving the President’s proposal to take an action relating to the application of certain sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation
  • H.R. 4695 — Protect Against Conflict by Turkey Act
  • H.R. 676 — NATO Support Act
  • H.R. 549 — Venezuela TPS Act
Other major legislation
  • H.R. 1585 — Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019
  • H.R. 987 — Raise the Wage Act
  • H.R. 1500 — Consumers First Act
  • H.R. 1994 — SECURE Act/Gold Star Family Tax Relief Act
  • H.R. 2722 — Securing America’s Federal Elections (SAFE) Act
  • H.R. 4617 — Stopping Harmful Interference in Elections for a Lasting Democracy (SHIELD) Act
  • H.R. 1644 — Save the Internet Act of 2019
  • H.R. 2157 — Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019
  • H.R. 397 — Rehabilitation for Multiemployer Pensions Act (The Butch Lewis Act)
  • H.R. 2513 — The Corporate Transparency Act
  • H.R. 269 — Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act of 2019
  • H.R. 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Program Extension Act
  • S.24 — Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
  • H.R. 430 — TANF Extension Act of 2019
  • Concurring in the Senate Amendments to HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standard Program Extension Act
  • H.R. 790 — Federal Civilian Workforce Pay Raise Fairness Act of 2019
  • HJ Res. 46 — Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019
  • H Res. 183 — Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States, as amended
  • H Res. 194 — Rule Providing for Consideration of H.R. 1644 and H.R. 2021
  • H.R. 2480 — Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act
  • H.R. 375 — To amend the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian Tribes (also known as the “Carcieri Fix”)

barfo
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i wouldn't say willful ignorance as much as maybe apathetic ignorance?

this is good and what im talking about.

i haven't seen this spread about out there. Why not?
I don't go out of my way for news from either side.

these are the very things that dems should discuss more, instead of trump.
But as long as these things are on the after burner of the louder voices of the dems, then the good gets left behind, unnoticed.

these are the very things that should be pushed harder aNd put in my face. not hate trump impeachment opinions.

If this is done I'm confident you will get him out of office. If the dems continue to want to be loud about trump instead of these things, then trump will win.
It really isn't about whether we as republicans, feel bad about trump or embarrassed or anything. Its about the lack of a united focus on true agendas that i see.
There are more than enough party jumpers/ independents out there to get The dems a win, but they wont be won over with a bunch of hate/impeach trump movements.
They will be won over with better ideological/ economical agendas that are more thoroughly thought out aNd clearly explained to the public.


dems need to stop putting trump out in the forefront of their thoughts aNd focus on winning over the fence riders.

otherwise I've come to just roll my eyes at most of the political back and forth.
 
So you see no difference in a sitting POTUS who is IMPEACHED vs an ex-vp?

I've brought this up before but it often seems that Trump followers' only recourse in response to someone pointing out his mania, is to by default, divert to a different subject entirely or to reply with "well, what about _____".

Trump is the one being tried in the House/Senate, not Biden, not Obama, not Clinton.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
So you see no difference in an IMPEACHED sitting POTUS vs an ex-vp?
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Not paying attention much? When Biden made that threat, he was VP and Ukraine did not get the aid during the Obama administration....which they did get under the Trump administration...with no investigation. Happy to have a factual conversation though.
 
TBpup said:
Not paying attention much? When Biden made that threat, he was VP and Ukraine did not get the aid during the Obama administration....which they did get under the Trump administration...with no investigation. Happy to have a factual conversation though.
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Not paying attention much?

"So you see no difference in a sitting POTUS who is IMPEACHED vs an ex-vp?

I've brought this up before but it often seems that Trump followers' only recourse in response to someone pointing out his mania, is to by default, divert to a different subject entirely or to reply with "well, what about _____".

Trump is the one being tried in the House/Senate, not Biden, not Obama, not Clinton."
 
TBpup said:
But what he was referring to is when he WAS VP. Just a little investigation would do wonders.
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When was Biden helping to get his crackhead Son a job in the Ukraine first become a big issue ?

Answer; not until Trump made it one.
 
I can see a discussion about what really happened and when is going to be far to much to expect.
 
yankeesince59 said:
So you see no difference in a sitting POTUS who is IMPEACHED vs an ex-vp?

I've brought this up before but it often seems that Trump followers' only recourse in response to someone pointing out his mania, is to by default, divert to a different subject entirely or to reply with "well, what about _____".

Trump is the one being tried in the House/Senate, not Biden, not Obama, not Clinton.
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And more Fake News. Not a Trump follower. I did make a comment about comparisons but that has been completey ignored and the response right after my post was "Trump follower" and "mania". I would seriously be interested in a response to my original obersvation. If you want to answer by referring to me in completely inaccurate manners, that may speak volumes.
 
yankeesince59 said:
When was Biden helping to get his crackhead Son a job in the Ukraine first become a big issue ?

Answer; not until Trump made it one.
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Obviously that is not true either or Joe wouldn't have gone on live TV to brag about him withholding aid until the investigator was fired for looking into the son. Actually, it was Hillary that first brought up Joe's son getting paid so much a long time ago. Given the circumstances, it seemed like she was trying to keep Biden from running at the same time she was.
 
TBpup said:
And more Fake News. Not a Trump follower. I did make a comment about comparisons but that has been completey ignored and the response right after my post was "Trump follower" and "mania". I would seriously be interested in a response to my original obersvation. If you want to answer by referring to me in completely inaccurate manners, that may speak volumes.
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Back up, sparky...When did I say you were "a Trump follower?...I didn't. My statement was a general observation about Trump followers attitudes on some things.

Maybe you should learn the difference in "implying" and "inferring".
 
TBpup said:
Obviously that is not true either or Joe wouldn't have gone on live TV to brag about him withholding aid until the investigator was fired for looking into the son. Actually, it was Hillary that first brought up Joe's son getting paid so much a long time ago. Given the circumstances, it seemed like she was trying to keep Biden from running at the same time she was.
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And I'll ask again, what does any of this have to do with Trump being impeached?

FWIW, I'm by no means a Trump follower either. And if I were considering voting for Biden, and I'm not, I'd certainly want to know if he did something out of line which should/could influence my opinion of him. But for the umpteenth time, Biden is not POTUS, Trump is, and Biden is not on trial, Trump is.
 
So now I'm Sparky....or am I inferring/implying that incorrectly? I was looking for a legitimate response to what I posted. Can see that isn't going to happen in this case but it has become at least worth a laugh. Cheers.
 
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