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I cant believe he had this line-up(armstrong, wright, rj, nachbar, and collins), in the beginning of the 4th.
 
I can't believe the Nets only scored 9 points in the 4th Q. They had 19 shots attempted, only made 3 buckets. They should have let Vince take all 19 shots, he would have made more than 3 lol.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 12 2008, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't believe the Nets only scored 9 points in the 4th Q. They had 19 shots attempted, only made 3 buckets. They should have let Vince take all 19 shots, he would have made more than 3 lol.</div>

true

but Celts D is really something! I can see them playing Spurs in the season finale.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I cant believe he had this line-up(armstrong, wright, rj, nachbar, and collins), in the beginning of the 4th.</div>
That's the ugliest lineup ever. Puts way to much pressure on RJ and Boki.
 
I don't know, the other guys did need a rest, didn't they? I'd probably rather see Carter out there with that group, but I guess Frank wanted to rest him.
 
why would he play Kidd the full 3 quarters and decide to rest him early fourth? our coach is a retard, he has good games but then makes motherfuckin retarded mistakes like this.
 
I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.
 
Is it possible to have 2 head coaches? Because I'd love to see Frank paired with an offensive-minded coach, somehow. That'd be pretty cool.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
FEW? It took him 20sumn games to notice that, collins and allen are not starters.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
FEW? It took him 20sumn games to notice that, collins and allen are not starters.
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Hahahahahahahahah....AMEN!
Just cause a coach works hard doesnt mean they are good...or even intelligent. Sometimes in life people get a job due to there work ethic and sometimes people get there job because of talent...its time to get a coach with talent.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 12 2008, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
FEW? It took him 20sumn games to notice that, collins and allen are not starters.
</div>
Hahahahahahahahah....AMEN!
Just cause a coach works hard doesnt mean they are good...or even intelligent. Sometimes in life people get a job due to there work ethic and sometimes people get there job because of talent...its time to get a coach with talent.
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Yuppers
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
first of all, i would make a good coach and the rest of you would suck.


second, frank works hard at things that don't help the team. his new offense this year sux bad. he doesnt know what he's working on
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
positives? outside of a hard worker and having a relationship with his players, what positives does he have?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Jan 12 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
positives? outside of a hard worker and having a relationship with his players, what positives does he have?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
FEW? It took him 20sumn games to notice that, collins and allen are not starters.
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Boone wasn't playing very well to start the season, and Williams looked lost most of the time early on. How many options did he really have?
 
Jizzy I will say that if there's any coach who's willing to put up with ZBO, its you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Jan 12 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
positives? outside of a hard worker and having a relationship with his players, what positives does he have?
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An offense that optimizes the use of available talent. A defense that hides our team's weaknesses (most notably, a lack of shot-blocking) as effectively as possible. He functions well as an extension of the front office, and the players function effectively as an extension of him. A defense-first attitude that is the common factor in every NBA champion's coach since before I was born. He's never thrown any of his players under the bus in an interview with the press ever (a problem, you might recall, we had with our previous coach). And a work ethic that not only makes him one of, if not the best, game-planner in the league, but also has earned him the respect of his players, the team president and the team owner.

I don't know if Lawrence Frank is a better coach than the rest of the guys in the league (although, my suspicion is that he is for many of them), but I do know that he lives, breathes and understands basketball, and that if he thought our best chance to win was to start Collins and Allen, then he probably knew something we didn't. And the consistent arrogance and outright idiocy some of you show by flipping this, and assuming that HE must be stupid and WE must be the ones seeing something he doesn't drives me to write posts like this that will have absolutely 0 impact on the way you consider this issue.

Man, I need to get a life...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 13 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eddie Jordan>>>>>>>>>frank</div>
Seconded.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 13 2008, 04:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Jan 12 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
positives? outside of a hard worker and having a relationship with his players, what positives does he have?
</div>

An offense that optimizes the use of available talent. A defense that hides our team's weaknesses (most notably, a lack of shot-blocking) as effectively as possible. He functions well as an extension of the front office, and the players function effectively as an extension of him. A defense-first attitude that is the common factor in every NBA champion's coach since before I was born. He's never thrown any of his players under the bus in an interview with the press ever (a problem, you might recall, we had with our previous coach). And a work ethic that not only makes him one of, if not the best, game-planner in the league, but also has earned him the respect of his players, the team president and the team owner.

I don't know if Lawrence Frank is a better coach than the rest of the guys in the league (although, my suspicion is that he is for many of them), but I do know that he lives, breathes and understands basketball, and that if he thought our best chance to win was to start Collins and Allen, then he probably knew something we didn't. And the consistent arrogance and outright idiocy some of you show by flipping this, and assuming that HE must be stupid and WE must be the ones seeing something he doesn't drives me to write posts like this that will have absolutely 0 impact on the way you consider this issue.

Man, I need to get a life...
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You know what? That is probably the best argument for Frank that I have ever heard, and I am considering changing my view on him. While he has no NBA experience, the fact that his players respect him DESPITE this is quite impressive. I'm beginning ot think NBA experience is irrelevant. Look how much respect Jeff and Stan van Gundy get and then take a look at Isaih Thomas lol. Good post about Frank though, with a lo t of good points
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bling890 @ Jan 14 2008, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 13 2008, 04:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Jan 12 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone who's posted in this thread would make a terrible NBA coach (myself included).

Everyone bitches about who's playing when, but Frank not only has to balance minutes but egos. Plus, he's probably watched more game tape this year than you'll watch over your entire lifetime. I think it's much more likely he was seeing something you guys weren't than vice versa.

The man works harder at his job than we probably ever will at ours. He has the respect of his players and his organization. Every scout I've ever heard talk about him seems to praise his offensive and defensive schemes. These are not common qualities among NBA coaches. These things are hard to find, especially in conjunction.

He's young. He'll make some mistakes here and there. But I don't understand why we're so damn focused on the few negative points about him when he has so many good things going for him.</div>
positives? outside of a hard worker and having a relationship with his players, what positives does he have?
</div>

An offense that optimizes the use of available talent. A defense that hides our team's weaknesses (most notably, a lack of shot-blocking) as effectively as possible. He functions well as an extension of the front office, and the players function effectively as an extension of him. A defense-first attitude that is the common factor in every NBA champion's coach since before I was born. He's never thrown any of his players under the bus in an interview with the press ever (a problem, you might recall, we had with our previous coach). And a work ethic that not only makes him one of, if not the best, game-planner in the league, but also has earned him the respect of his players, the team president and the team owner.

I don't know if Lawrence Frank is a better coach than the rest of the guys in the league (although, my suspicion is that he is for many of them), but I do know that he lives, breathes and understands basketball, and that if he thought our best chance to win was to start Collins and Allen, then he probably knew something we didn't. And the consistent arrogance and outright idiocy some of you show by flipping this, and assuming that HE must be stupid and WE must be the ones seeing something he doesn't drives me to write posts like this that will have absolutely 0 impact on the way you consider this issue.

Man, I need to get a life...
</div>

You know what? That is probably the best argument for Frank that I have ever heard, and I am considering changing my view on him. While he has no NBA experience, the fact that his players respect him DESPITE this is quite impressive. I'm beginning ot think NBA experience is irrelevant. Look how much respect Jeff and Stan van Gundy get and then take a look at Isaih Thomas lol. Good post about Frank though, with a lo t of good points
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Sorry, Mr. Ly-ing, but wrong, wrong, wrong.....WRONG. Here is all you need to know about Lawrence Frank. A.) He's started Jason Collins for the last 4+ years. B.) It took him 20+ games for him to realize that Boone and Williams should be starting over the most unproductive starting 4 & 5 combo perhaps in recent NBA history (Allen and Collins). Unfathomable. Anyone with an inkling of basketball knowledge knew this after 2 games (or sooner). C.) He's a pretty awful 4th quarter coach. Look at last year's playoffs vs. the Cavs & the years before vs. the Heat, the Nets were always in games in the 4th, but never got good looks. Their plays were predictiable and often led to Carter chucking something up, or RJ driving down the lane for a charge. He's always slow to make adjustments.

I don't care how hard he works, if he's using the wrong methodology, it's not only undproductive, but counterproductive. It's like deciding to study for a Math test by practicing your spelling. Just because you have a player's "respect" and they "like like" you, it doesn't mean you are making them the best they can be or getting the utmost out of them. End o' story.
 
Although Frank gives me a headache, I must disagree with you a bit there, footswalker.

While Sean is definitely very productive and should've been given more minutes by Frank early on, I'm not sure Boone was 100% ready to start yet. He had gone under surgery in the off-season, and for all we know, he was still getting used to playing early on in the season.
 

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