Why Is Scott Foster Still an NBA Ref?

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Forgot about the actual data against this fool in terms of betting lines and the Donaghy era.



During the 2006-07 period under investigation, seven games refereed by Scott Foster had lopsided enough betting on one team to move the point spread by at least 2 points; those seven teams were undefeated against Vegas – meaning that the big-money gamblers won a 7 of 7 times on Foster's games; the odds of that happening randomly are less than 1%.

Statistics alone cannot convict, but it's certainly noteworthy that seven times in Foster's games one team was bet extremely heavily, and all seven times that team won," said RJ Bell of Pregame.com.

Two of those seven games stand out:
On January 19, 2007 the Kings opened as a 1.5 favorites at Boston; betting on Sacramento moved the line to -4.5. Kings won by 5, shooting 25 free throws, versus only 14 free throws for the home team Celtics. On March 20, 2007 the Nuggets opened as 2.5 point underdogs at New Jersey. Denver was bet so heavily, they closed as 1 point favorites. Denver won by 4, shooting 32 free throws versus only 22 for the home team Nets.

http://www.aolnews.com/2008/07/16/the-gambling-evidence-does-not-look-great-for-scott-foster-or-th/
 
Gambling is just like Alcohol addiction, you may get it under control buy you're never cured.



• Portland is 8-4 SU in its last 12 games when playing Oklahoma City.
• The total has gone UNDER in 13 of Portland’s last 17 games when playing Oklahoma City.
• Portland is 7-2 SU in its last 9 games when playing at home against Oklahoma City.
• Oklahoma City is 3-9 ATS in its last 12 games when playing Portland.
• Oklahoma City is 2-7 SU in its last 9 games when playing on the road against Portland.
• Oklahoma City is 2-4 ATS in its last 6 games when playing on the road against Portland.


All the indications seemed to be in Portland's favor. What does this mean if your betting against them?
 
Foster was probably giving Stern some action.
 
Stern clearly declared that Donaghy acted alone - ergo, any evidence to the contrary is a figment of our imaginations.
 
As far as the NBA is concerned, the investigation is closed. They would rather let crooked refs get away with it, than admit there might be a problem.

That much was clearly understood. What wasn't, however, was whether or not you believed Stern's all too familiar bullshit.
 
Forgot about the actual data against this fool in terms of betting lines and the Donaghy era.





http://www.aolnews.com/2008/07/16/the-gambling-evidence-does-not-look-great-for-scott-foster-or-th/

Great post.

Even if the NBA researched the subject, and found that Foster was innocent....I would still ask the same question. If the fan base has a legitimate reason to believe that a referee is involved in throwing games, the damage has already been done, and you have to fire him. The world isn't always a fair place. If Foster is some how completely innocent, well, that sucks for him. But the NBA is bigger than Scott Foster. If he compromises the integrity of your league, even if it's by coincidence, I would fire him.

But, realistically, those stats are not coincidental. The stats literally say there is a 99% chance Foster has and/or is throwing games. The NBA doesn't care enough to do anything about it. And this is the exact kind of NBA bullshit that caused me to cancel my Blazer's season tickets this year.
 
I'm not a big conspiracy person, but that "call" seemed to me to be a "decision". And I do think a full NBA investigation is warranted. It's not just that we lost a game we actually won, but that an NBA ref made a decision as to what the outcome would be when the opportunity presented itself.
 
From Canzano's article in the O today:

The game officials end up bums. And I suspect all they really want is to get calls right. Although, Foster, the guy who called it goal tending, was reportedly argumentative and defiant about it after the game.

Blazers broadcaster Brian Wheeler saw Foster on the loading dock, shook his head, and said Foster shot back, "Do you know the rule?"

I think it would be hilarious if the fans sitting near courtside all pull out their cellphones and start yelling "Hey Scott, it's Donaghy calling for you!" the next time Foster refs a game in Portland.

I'll link Canzano's column because it does bring up the credibility issue simmering just beneath the surface for the NBA.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2012/02/canzano_nba_needs_more_instant.html
 
The Gambling Evidence Does Not Look Great for Scott Foster or the NBA

Another article on Foster.

Circumstantial, as it may be, there is a lot to be uncovered in these NBA referee scandals when it comes to the action that Las Vegas receives on particular games. Obviously, the 130 phone calls from Tim Donaghy to Scott Foster are in and of themselves very bad news. Donaghy = guilty, and those swell-piece hits define "by association".

As R.J. Bell of Pregame points out, there might be a lot more to the Foster business than just the phone calls too.
During the 2006-07 period under investigation, seven games refereed by Scott Foster had lopsided enough betting on one team to move the point spread by at least 2 points; those seven teams were undefeated against Vegas – meaning that the big-money gamblers won a 7 of 7 times on Foster's games; the odds of that happening randomly are less than 1%.

Statistics alone cannot convict, but it's certainly noteworthy that seven times in Foster's games one team was bet extremely heavily, and all seven times that team won," said RJ Bell of Pregame.com.

Two of those seven games stand out:
On January 19, 2007 the Kings opened as a 1.5 favorites at Boston; betting on Sacramento moved the line to -4.5. Kings won by 5, shooting 25 free throws, versus only 14 free throws for the home team Celtics. On March 20, 2007 the Nuggets opened as 2.5 point underdogs at New Jersey. Denver was bet so heavily, they closed as 1 point favorites. Denver won by 4, shooting 32 free throws versus only 22 for the home team Nets.
The point that RJ is making here is pretty simple -- generally speaking, lines can shift, but when a certain set of games shift heavily and Vegas loses all of those games, well, something ain't stirring the Kool-Aid.

Again, statistics can't convict. Nothing short of testimony from the referees and gamblers involved can actually prove anything; conviction is in reality an entirely different issue if we're speaking in legalese.

And furthermore, none of these do anything to prove that the NBA is is fixed, in the sense of a conspiracy from top to bottom. (Although the NBA scrambling to deny the ridiculous number of phone calls doesn't help.)

Yes, it would be absolutely horrible news for the L (obviously) because it means that more than one referee's games were compromised and suddenly, things from that period look much darker.

Again, there's a long way to go on this investigation, particularly considering we are working on circumstantial evidence at this point, but it's a pretty safe bet you can count on some subpoenas and other less friendly legally-related documents heading Foster's way.

At least we know Donaghy won't mind talking! Sigh.
 
From Canzano's article in the O today:



I think it would be hilarious if the fans sitting near courtside all pull out their cellphones and start yelling "Hey Scott, it's Donaghy calling for you!" the next time Foster refs a game in Portland.

I'll link Canzano's column because it does bring up the credibility issue simmering just beneath the surface for the NBA.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2012/02/canzano_nba_needs_more_instant.html

I love that line! "Hey Scott, it's Donaghy calling you!" I'm gonna use that next time I see him ref.
 
The more you look into Foster, the uglier it gets. Here is a write-up from a 2010 game.

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2010/03/nba-referee-scott-foster-still-in-the-game.html

The first one blown by Foster was at some point in the 4th Quarter and had no real bearing to the on court play. I was initially impressed that Foster manned up with a “my bad.” I have witnessed refs at all levels of basketball just call a foul or something in many similar situations so they will not have to admit a public mistake.

However, the next whistle came a crucial part of the game and had a negative impact on the Wizards. Javale McGee’s dunk had cut the Hawks lead to four with 50 seconds left and the Wiz corralled a Joe Johnson long rebound miss on the Hawks’ next possession. McGee was poised to make an outlet pass that was definitely going to lead to an advantageous fast break for the Wizards when Foster blew his whistle from the other side of the court. Flip Saunders and his players looked on in disbelief as Foster explained his screw up again. Maybe Foster thought Saunders intended to call a timeout, but it didn’t appear that way. The Wizards could have cut the lead to two or maybe one on that fast break.
 
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Found this on ESPN and am trying to validate it. If true, all of my suspicions about the NBA are confirmed. Same exact sort of betting action that I linked in the first post in this thread.

Interesting fact about the game last night, the line moved from OKC -2 to OKC +1 at just before tipoff. That indicates there was a lot of betting for OKC. Foster was also one of the referees that was looked into during the Tim Donaghy scandal. OKC ended up winning by 4, which covered the early spread.
 
Well one thing is for sure. If Foster used to gamble; there is a big chance he is still gambling. It's an addiction and if you have a way to control the outcome; it's even more addictive.

Seriously, if you knew you could count cards at a black jack table; and had a system that would make it hard to catch; would you count cards or play it fair?
 
I love that line! "Hey Scott, it's Donaghy calling you!" I'm gonna use that next time I see him ref.

It also would be funny to wave money at him, but the NBA might things that's a bit much. Then again, if the NBA is going to allow blatant cheating by refs, why can't fans point out how ridiculous it is by being ridiculous themselves.
 
Is that from an article or someone just commented?

It's a comment, and it was just sort of tucked into a long list with just one reply. It caught my eye because of my original post in this thread, and because it was well-written, which shouldn't matter, but it does to me.
 
^^ that is some serious bullshit...
 
Well one thing is for sure. If Foster used to gamble; there is a big chance he is still gambling. It's an addiction and if you have a way to control the outcome; it's even more addictive.

Seriously, if you knew you could count cards at a black jack table; and had a system that would make it hard to catch; would you count cards or play it fair?

I think the bigger issue is how a gambler can become beholden to the people with whom they place their bets. Betting on a game as a ref is one thing, but if betting lines are moving 3 points in one day, that speaks more to a larger scheme which requires a fix in the game. The crazy thing is, before Monday's game, I had almost completely forgot about the Donaghy scandal, and Scott Foster's role in it.
 
I think the bigger issue is how a gambler can become beholden to the people with whom they place their bets. Betting on a game as a ref is one thing, but if betting lines are moving 3 points in one day, that speaks more to a larger scheme which requires a fix in the game. The crazy thing is, before Monday's game, I had almost completely forgot about the Donaghy scandal, and Scott Foster's role in it.

So true. He may have some people inside doing the bets for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he has some off-shore accounts being fed by the fixes in the games. I'm sure the criminals learned from Donoughy's scandal that they have to be more secrete about the fix.
 
^^ that is some serious bullshit...

Hmm ... what a coincidence. The spread moved 3 points to OKC (-1.5) after Portland opened as the favorite at 1.5.

The point spread opened up in this NBA game with the home team Portland Trailblazers favored by -1 ½ points with an over under of 194 points.

Early money from the betting public has been Thunder money as Oklahoma City is now favored by -1 ½ points.

http://tonyspicks.com/2012/02/05/ok...railblazers-sports-betting-odds-pick-preview/

3 points is a big move for an NBA regular season game, as the original post in this thread explains. It would be nice to know the volume, but that's heavy money on OKC in a matter of a day.
 
^^ like i said, that's some serious BS on the part of Foster, f'n us.
 
Hmm ... what a coincidence. The spread moved 3 points to OKC (-1.5) after Portland opened as the favorite at 1.5.



http://tonyspicks.com/2012/02/05/ok...railblazers-sports-betting-odds-pick-preview/

3 points is a big move for an NBA regular season game, as the original post in this thread explains. It would be nice to know the volume, but that's heavy money on OKC in a matter of a day.

I think he was agreeing with you buddy

EDIT: Posted, then read what blue said. At least I was right. LOL
 
^^ like i said, that's some serious BS on the part of Foster, f'n us.

Oh, I know. It's so obvious, and nobody really seems to be looking into it. Foster's reaction to Wheels after the game is a tell, too. The only reason to be defiant about blowing that call is because you were forced to blow that call, and you need to justify it.
 
From Canzano's article in the O today:

The game officials end up bums. And I suspect all they really want is to get calls right. Although, Foster, the guy who called it goal tending, was reportedly argumentative and defiant about it after the game. Blazers broadcaster Brian Wheeler saw Foster on the loading dock, shook his head, and said Foster shot back, "Do you know the rule?"

Of course Foster is going to be Defensive from altering the outcome, however his behavior sure does point to him being guilty for more than just a mistaken call.

Found this on ESPN. Same exact sort of betting action that I linked in the first post in this thread.
Interesting fact about the game last night, the line moved from OKC -2 to OKC +1 at just before tipoff. That indicates there was a lot of betting for OKC.

Wow, that's an incredible revelation.
 
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FYI - Foster and Donaghy never reffed a game together during this season.


Calls between Foster, 41, and Donaghy, also 41, took place immediately before and after 54 of the 57 games Donaghy officiated from the beginning of the 2006-2007 season until mid-March, when his role in the gambling operation apparently ended. Records also show a vast majority of the calls came in the hours before or after games officiated by Donaghy or Foster.


Donaghy’s phone records for one of those days, Dec. 30, obtained by Fox News, reveal the following:



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381842,00.html#ixzz1lobljIyF
 
This is just going from bad to worse. I really, REALLY hope it gets looked into by the NBA or FBI.
 
I thought Foster would be secretely punished by the NBA by not allowing him to work a few games. Not true!! He's working the Dallas - Denver game tonight. Just two days after the big error.

BUM
 
I thought Foster would be secretely punished by the NBA by not allowing him to work a few games. Not true!! He's working the Dallas - Denver game tonight. Just two days after the big error.

Unfortunately with the crazy schedule and ref's getting injured that's not a possibility. Foster overall is a good Ref, but the real story behind him is unclear.
 

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