WHY IS THE CHOAD LOOKING AT INJURED AND WASHED-UP PLAYERS?

[blazerboy30]

Maris,

Which players would you target?

 

[maxiep]

Maris,

Which players would you target?

Your problem is that you treat him as a serious poster. He isn't.

 

[PapaG]

True, I forgot those championships he led the Bulls to. Of course, he had a few good sidekicks. But so did Magic. And Magic had to start to do all his title-winning, whereas Kukoc was able to do it off the bench!

I guess they were pretty close all in all.

Kukoc had a decent NBA career. I'm not sure why you compared him to Magic Johnson. Kukoc was a 2nd-round pick. After Jordan and Pippen humiliated the poor guy in the '92 Olympics in the first game against Croatia, I don't think anyone thought Kukoc was going to be an MVP-caliber player in the NBA. That said, Kukoc was still a 20-PER player for the first two NBA championship teams he played on, and a 17.3 on the 3rd.

At least that's how I remember it.

 

[Minstrel]

Kukoc had a decent NBA career.

No question there.

I'm not sure why you compared him to Magic Johnson.

Because he was called the "European Magic Johnson" prior to coming over to the NBA. I wasn't saying that people expected him to actually be as good as Magic Johnson in the NBA, nor was I actually criticizing Kukoc, I was simply making a joke that Khryapa got as close to becoming Scottie Pippen in Europe as Kukoc got to becoming Magic Johnson in America.

In other words, it wasn't intended as insight or analysis, just playing around.

 

[MARIS61]

Just the mention by some of you that you don't see that much of a difference shows that you highly overrate Andre and highly underrate Devin.

I say the opposite is true of Harris lovers.

He's accomplished nothing, taken his teams nowhere, and left them hanging while he was injured every year since his rookie season.

 

[blazerboy30]

In other words, it wasn't intended as insight or analysis, just playing around.

PapaG HATES playing around. Don't do it.

 

[andalusian]

He's accomplished nothing, taken his teams nowhere, and left them hanging while he was injured every year since his rookie season.

I am pretty sure he was the starting PG of the team that went to the NBA finals and was screwed by the refs when they looked at D-Wade funny. You would not know that, however, since you do not watch NBA basketball unless the Blazers are playing - so it is understandable why you had no knowledge of that.

 

[PapaG]

No question there.



Because he was called the "European Magic Johnson" prior to coming over to the NBA. I wasn't saying that people expected him to actually be as good as Magic Johnson in the NBA, nor was I actually criticizing Kukoc, I was simply making a joke that Khryapa got as close to becoming Scottie Pippen in Europe as Kukoc got to becoming Magic Johnson in America.

In other words, it wasn't intended as insight or analysis, just playing around.

Ah, gotcha! You know too much about hoops to compare Khryapa to Kukoc, but I never can be too sure with you youngsters.

 

[PapaG]

PapaG HATES playing around. Don't do it.

That is really funny coming from you. Ironic, too, since you seem to think that you were actually going to have some sort of serious debate with a loveable goofball like MARIS.

 

[PapaG]

I am pretty sure he was the starting PG of the team that went to the NBA finals and was screwed by the refs when they looked at D-Wade funny. You would not know that, however, since you do not watch NBA basketball unless the Blazers are playing - so it is understandable why you had no knowledge of that.

He wasn't, though. Jason Terry was the starter. Harris started 4 games in the regular season, and only 3 games in the Finals. Plus, Harris had an 11.7 PER during that playoff run.

 

[andalusian]

He wasn't, though. Jason Terry was the starter. Harris started 4 games in the regular season, and zero games in the playoffs. Plus, Harris had an 11.7 PER during that playoff run.

Really? I stand corrected. He became the starter the year after?

 

[MARIS61]

I find it amusing that a poster can have a love affair with such shitty players like Maris does.

I've always kind of thought of him as a gimmick poster though.

My favorite players of all time are, in no particular order, Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Arvidas Sabonis, Larry Bird and Dominique Williams.

 

[PapaG]

Really? I stand corrected. He became the starter the year after?

I was wrong. He did start in the playoffs, including 3 games in the Finals.

He was terrible in those 3 starts, though.

GmScores of 4.2, -1.6, and 4.5.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harride01/gamelog/2006/#stats_playoffs

So, you were right about Harris starting in the playoffs, but man, he was brutal if you look at the basic and advanced stats.

We were both wrong, but right!

 

[andalusian]

I was wrong. He did start in the playoffs, including 3 games in the Finals.

He was terrible in those 3 starts, though.

GmScores of 4.2, -1.6, and 4.5.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harride01/gamelog/2006/#stats_playoffs

So, you were right about Harris starting in the playoffs, but man, he was brutal if you look at the basic and advanced stats.

We were both wrong, but right!

Thanks. To be fair, he was a 2nd year player and had some very nice games in the playoffs that year, even if not as a starter. So, MARIS claiming he never did anything for his teams is, as usual, off-target.

I think we can summarize it as - Harris is a good player, not a great player. And to put it in Maris friendly terms - he is no Sergio Rodriguez. Luckily, this works for both Maris and everyone else - as the interpretation is Maris dependent.

 

[PapaG]

Thanks. To be fair, he was a 2nd year player and had some very nice games in the playoffs that year, even if not as a starter. So, MARIS claiming he never did anything for his teams is, as usual, off-target.

I think we can summarize it as - Harris is a good player, not a great player. And to put it in Maris friendly terms - he is no Sergio Rodriguez. Luckily, this works for both Maris and everyone else - as the interpretation is Maris dependent.

I was excited about the possibility of getting Harris. Not because he'd be an upgrade over Miller, but because he has one thing that Miller doesn't have; many years left in the NBA.

 

[maxiep]

I was excited about the possibility of getting Harris. Not because he'd be an upgrade over Miller, but because he has one thing that Miller doesn't have; many years left in the NBA.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that Miller's game and past durability means he'll be more like Stockton. He can likely be effective for another three-five years. That's plenty of time to get a PGOTF.