Why It’s Time Black People Simply Disengage With White People In Discussing Race

[riverman]

http://abc7news.com/news/cousin-of-bulls-star-dwyane-wade-shot-killed-in-chicago/1486863/

I just read that earlier....just another senseless tragedy.

 

[Denny Crane]

I just read that earlier....just another senseless tragedy.

The projects are a disgrace. Pretty damned close to concentration camps. Literally.

HUD is scandal ridden and the source of the destruction of too many lives.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The projects are a disgrace. Pretty damned close to concentration camps. Literally.

HUD is scandal ridden and the source of the destruction of too many lives.

But libraries.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The projects are a disgrace. Pretty damned close to concentration camps. Literally.

HUD is scandal ridden and the source of the destruction of too many lives.

It is just insane what people have to deal with.

 

[Natebishop3]

i dont know i have everyone on ignore except you.

I'm not a mod anymore.... so you can finally block me now too lol

 

[MarAzul]

every black friend ive ever had (and most of the brown friends too) have been called a nigger by a complete stranger on the street.

but racism doesnt exist.

I only have a couple of Black friends, maybe associates is the more accurate term. Anyway they tell me, they are called nigger by their friends, never by an associate.

 

[Sinobas]

Black people are not oppressed here, most of you don't even know what oppression really is. Far more black people from Africa have immigrated here willingly than were brought over as slaves. Why are people trying to get into our country if it's so racist?

 

[Sinobas]

The projects are a disgrace. Pretty damned close to concentration camps. Literally.

HUD is scandal ridden and the source of the destruction of too many lives.

Do you expect the government to build luxury resorts for low-lives that can't get their act together? They'd just trash it in a few years anyway. The government should put those people to work rather than giving them welfare.

 

[santeesioux]

I'm not a mod anymore.... so you can finally block me now too lol

Where you at with the Kaepernick thing?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Do you expect the government to build luxury resorts for low-lives that can't get their act together? They'd just trash it in a few years anyway. The government should put those people to work rather than giving them welfare.

Chicken or the egg?

Obama wants to move them into expensive neighborhoods last I heard, don't fix the problem just ship it somewhere.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Who taught you the ABC's and how to read? If Bill Gates was neglected and nobody taught him the basics do you really think the library would have helped?

This isn't kids who are a little behind, they are like computers with no programming. You can't expect that from them.

No Child Left Behind??????? Bullshit.

Actually, the library helped me and several of my classmates as underprivileged children. Most of us learned to read by the time we were 5 years old with tutors, volunteers, and librarians. There are a lot of public reading programs at the library. Check it out and see for yourself.

 

[blue32]

Black people are not oppressed here, most of you don't even know what oppression really is. Far more black people from Africa have immigrated here willingly than were brought over as slaves. Why are people trying to get into our country if it's so racist?

That's not what Colin Kapernick says! That hypocritical douche.

 

[riverman]

Actually, the library helped me and several of my classmates as underprivileged children. Most of us learned to read by the time we were 5 years old with tutors, volunteers, and librarians. There are a lot of public reading programs at the library. Check it out and see for yourself.

It's where a lot of real teaching happens...many teachers work with talented poor kids there to give them an edge...I know some who actually buy out of district cards for kids who can't afford the fifty dollars a year. There's the local sheriff outreach there for listening to anybody in the community once a week and addressing any issues...great program...there are many, many informative programs and AARP does income taxes for anybody who signs up for free.....only idiots and apathetics would devalue the library system ....Andrew Carnegie donated the library I grew up around and it was my church....a place I could explore and answer questions....build a resume, etc....thank you for your post...voice of reason

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Actually, the library helped me and several of my classmates as underprivileged children. Most of us learned to read by the time we were 5 years old with tutors, volunteers, and librarians. There are a lot of public reading programs at the library. Check it out and see for yourself.

Which Library can handle 50 thousand kids from a shitty school district? That's right, none.

 

[Hobbesarable]

It's where a lot of real teaching happens...many teachers work with talented poor kids there to give them an edge...I know some who actually buy out of district cards for kids who can't afford the fifty dollars a year. There's the local sheriff outreach there for listening to anybody in the community once a week and addressing any issues...great program...there are many, many informative programs and AARP does income taxes for anybody who signs up for free.....only idiots and apathetics would devalue the library system ....Andrew Carnegie donated the library I grew up around and it was my church....a place I could explore and answer questions....build a resume, etc....thank you for your post...voice of reason

To piggy back on that impressive post, I would like to say the internet took the teaching/learning themes of the public library to a whole new level.

There's help available to several subjects online for free. Here's a link to one of the earliest and my favorite mathematics online reference: http://mathforum.org/dr.math/.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Which Library can handle 50 thousand kids from a shitty school district? That's right, none.

Which school district are you referring to?

 

[Denny Crane]

Do you expect the government to build luxury resorts for low-lives that can't get their act together? They'd just trash it in a few years anyway. The government should put those people to work rather than giving them welfare.

No. I'd prefer vouchers so the people can pay rent, wherever, with them.

 

[riverman]

Which Library can handle 50 thousand kids from a shitty school district? That's right, none.

what kind of question is that? don't know when you were last in one, but if you have a card you can access the library from a cell phone these days..they have outreach programs that deliver honor system books to rural areas out of the tax district. They deliver honor system books to the senior center ...what's your problem with civil servants anyway? what's your solution? tear down the library and build another jail?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Which school district are you referring to?

We were talking about the horrible schools inner city kids are stuck in and the best answer for kids who have no help is the library. My senior class had 90 kids, we all had a chance to learn. Low

what kind of question is that? don't know when you were last in one, but if you have a card you can access the library from a cell phone these days..they have outreach programs that deliver honor system books to rural areas out of the tax district. They deliver honor system books to the senior center ...what's your problem with civil servants anyway? what's your solution? tear down the library and build another jail?

What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Hobbesarable]

We were talking about the horrible schools inner city kids are stuck in and the best answer for kids who have no help is the library. My senior class had 90 kids, we all had a chance to learn. Low

What the fuck are you talking about?

There are several programs open to inner city kids.

Our local high school encouraged the math, science, and writing clubs to help tutor middle school students and their own classmates.

School volunteers are also another wonderful resource. I worked with an ESL volunteer to help bring math to international students.

There is another program, Upward Bound, designed to help underprivileged high school students prepare for college.

There are a lot more programs and people helping other than the public library system.

Heck, Riverman even mentioned community outreach programs as another way of supplementing a child's education.

 

[riverman]

We were talking about the horrible schools inner city kids are stuck in and the best answer for kids who have no help is the library. My senior class had 90 kids, we all had a chance to learn. Low

What the fuck are you talking about?

nothing dude...I'm done

 

[Natebishop3]

Where you at with the Kaepernick thing?

I think it's sad. I think he is a man who has lost all confidence in himself. He has had his spirit broken, and I don't think he'll get it back on a football field.

 

[crandc]

Get a library card....I learned more there than from most teachers on a high school level.

Good idea. If there's a library. What if there isn't?

 

[blue32]

Good idea. If there's a library. What if there isn't?

we all die.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Good idea. If there's a library. What if there isn't?

What? You mean ghettos with no grocery stores don't have world class libraries? The hell you say.

Apparently thousands of kids who can't read are going to become college ready by going to the library.

I'll become an NFL player by playing Madden and we'll all become Clapton by playing Rock Star on Ps4.

There are several programs open to inner city kids.

Our local high school encouraged the math, science, and writing clubs to help tutor middle school students and their own classmates.

School volunteers are also another wonderful resource. I worked with an ESL volunteer to help bring math to international students.

There is another program, Upward Bound, designed to help underprivileged high school students prepare for college.

There are a lot more programs and people helping other than the public library system.

Heck, Riverman even mentioned community outreach programs as another way of supplementing a child's education.

Ugggggh, I almost feel like I have more empathy for black people after having to listen to people argue a library is going to help an entire population. It is just ridiculous.

 

[Natebishop3]

What? You mean ghettos with no grocery stores don't have world class libraries? The hell you say.

Apparently thousands of kids who can't read are going to become college ready by going to the library.

I'll become an NFL player by playing Madden and we'll all become Clapton by playing Rock Star on Ps4.



Ugggggh, I almost feel like I have more empathy for black people after having to listen to people argue a library is going to help an entire population. It is just ridiculous.

Except there's a direct correlation between reading as a child and having academic success. They're linked. How do you get better at reading? By reading.

Your argument is like telling someone that practicing free throws won't make them a better free throw shooter.

 

[blue32]

Except there's a direct correlation between reading as a child and having academic success. They're linked. How do you get better at reading? By reading.

Your argument is like telling someone that practicing free throws won't make them a better free throw shooter.

Sure, but having a library in your community will not directly correlate, because its all about the parenting at that point, and just b/c it's there doesn't mean its going to be used. I would hope that they would have their kids read at home as well.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Except there's a direct correlation between reading as a child and having academic success. They're linked. How do you get better at reading? By reading.

Your argument is like telling someone that practicing free throws won't make them a better free throw shooter.

My argument is that 50000 kids can't learn to shoot free throws in one gym with one shooting instructor.

This is a really good analogy that might help white people get it. Thanks.

A kid that doesn't get taught to shoot free throws might become ok on his own, but he might pick up bad habits that a teacher could have prevented.

He's behind from the beginning and people expect them to go Nike and Just Do It.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Sure, but having a library in your community will not directly correlate, because its all about the parenting at that point, and just b/c it's there doesn't mean its going to be used. I would hope that they would have their kids read at home as well.

The closest library to my childhood home was a 20 minute drive.

I knew how to read before I went to kindergarten, but I had my grandmother and flash cards to teach me. That isn't happening for these kids.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think the title of this thread proved to be true. Unfortunately