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English teachers in Florida may now teach only excerpts from Shakespeare's plays, not the plays in their entirety, because Shakespeare is too racy for the free state of Florida.
 
crandc said:
English teachers in Florida may now teach only excerpts from Shakespeare's plays, not the plays in their entirety, because Shakespeare is too racy for the free state of Florida.
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"We have seen better days."
 
Dennis Prager of Prager not University, whose cartoons of fake Columbus and fake Frederick Douglass are now taught in Florida schools, said there is nothing wrong about masturbating to child pornography.

But can't say gay because we are "groomers".
 
crandc said:
Dennis Prager of Prager not University, whose cartoons of fake Columbus and fake Frederick Douglass are now taught in Florida schools, said there is nothing wrong about masturbating to child pornography.

But can't say gay because we are "groomers".
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Can you find a link to this? I believe it, but I want a source before I spread this all over the conservative sub on reddit.
 
Ron DeSantis and his backers paid $95,000 to an Iowa religious leader’s group



https://www.reuters.com/world/us/de... campaign, a super,an Iowa state lawmaker who

As Florida Governor Ron DeSantis scrambles to shore up his struggling run for the Republican presidential nomination, he has spent far more than any rival on courting an influential Christian conservative leader and his following in the key early voting state of Iowa.

Trailing far behind former President Donald Trump in national polls and beset by turmoil in his campaign, DeSantis and his advisers are spending heavily in Iowa in hopes of stalling Trump’s momentum by beating him in the state’s caucuses on Jan. 15, where Republicans begin to choose their next presidential nominee. The state’s influential evangelical voting base is crucial to that strategy.


The DeSantis campaign, a super PAC linked to him and a nonprofit group supporting him together paid $95,000 in recent months to the Family Leader Foundation, an Iowa-based nonprofit led by evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats, according to campaign finance reports and a document prepared by an Iowa state lawmaker who was helping the Vander Plaats organization raise money for a July 14 presidential candidate forum.


The document and the amount spent by DeSantis and his allies are previously unreported.

For that money, DeSantis and supporting groups got three pages of advertisements in a booklet distributed at the July forum attended by 2,000 Christian conservatives, and tickets to the summit, lunch and an after-dinner event.

But the real value may be more in building a relationship with Vander Plaats, whose endorsement is coveted in the early-voting state, said three campaign finance experts and an academic who studies Iowa campaign spending.


Vander Plaats and his group are leaders in the state’s Christian conservative movement, which has enormous political influence in Iowa. Roughly two-thirds of the state’s Republican caucus-goers in 2016 identified as evangelical, according to pollsters Edison Media Research.

“It’s a lot more money” than you typically see allocated in Iowa, said Steffen Schmidt, an emeritus political science professor at Iowa State University who studies political spending in the state. “It is a large amount for a very limited exposure in a booklet and for a single event,” he said.


In emailed comments to Reuters, Vander Plaats said the charges were “not even close to exorbitant” for the chance to be promoted before an audience of nearly 2,000 “engaged grassroots activists” at a forum that received extensive national political coverage.

“My only regret is that we probably should have charged more,” he said.
 
At the Iowa state fair, DeSantis had popular game stopped so he and his family could play by themselves while everyone watched.

Prager not University is heavily funded by oil companies. One of the videos approved for Florida schools calls global warming a hoax and compares climate activists to Nazis.

Real Nazis really like DeSantis and he likes them.
 
bro got a mudhole stomped in him by Trump and RFK Jr and now Vivek is walking it dry the title of this thread makes me howl with laughter literally going werewolf mode over here at the absolute state of his """""campaign"""""

 
yankeesince59 said:
Ha, I'm sure he does in fact want Disney to drop the suit...also sure that he now wishes he'd never started his crap with Disney in the first place.
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Rather than drop it, Disney just filed another suit.

Oh, the mouse, babe, has such teeth, dear
And it shows them pearly white

barfo
 
barfo said:
Rather than drop it, Disney just filed another suit.

Oh, the mouse, babe, has such teeth, dear
And it shows them pearly white

barfo
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barfo said:
Rather than drop it, Disney just filed another suit.

Oh, the mouse, babe, has such teeth, dear
And it shows them pearly white

barfo
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Yup, always loved the song..Darrin doing his "Mr. cool" thingy;


 
Strenuus said:
Imagine saying you're done with T*ump, go this fuckbag, realize he's as fucking stupid as the dude you previously liked, and STILL are too fucking stupid to know you're the mark yet.
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And the like.
 
crandc said:
One commentator said there are two kinds of people in Florida. Those who think DeSantis should be president, and those who have met him.
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I can say this isn't true, or at least it wasn't last month when I was in Florida, did not meet DeSantis, and did not think he should be President.

barfo
 
First R debate tonight. I am crossing my fingers that it begins the institutional dismantling of Trump for everyday members of the party. I'm not a Republican, nor will I be watching this gathering of wannabe fascists, but any move towards some sort of civil decency would be greatly appreciated.

Let's be real though, nobody is going to denounce anyone of any importance..
 
I already cleaned the cat box today and refrigerator yesterday. But I am sure I can find something to do. Knit. Read. Watch baseball.
 
Shaboid said:
First R debate tonight. I am crossing my fingers that it begins the institutional dismantling of Trump for everyday members of the party. I'm not a Republican, nor will I be watching this gathering of wannabe fascists, but any move towards some sort of civil decency would be greatly appreciated.

Let's be real though, nobody is going to denounce anyone of any importance..
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Christie won't be pulling any punches. That should be fun.

 
e_blazer said:
Christie won't be pulling any punches. That should be fun.

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I think Christie is making the smarter move...most, if not all of the other candidates have been either refusing to condemn Trump or dancing around the subject. And once/if Trump bows out Christie will try to remind/convince everyone that he was way ahead of the curve because he was the only one of the candidates who was not afraid to condemn Trump for what he was early in the race.

And considering his skyrocketing legal fees, I also predict that Trump will threaten to run as an independent and refuse to throw his support to the eventual nominee unless the GOP pays him off.
 
yankeesince59 said:
I think Christie is making the smarter move...most, if not all of the other candidates have been either refusing to condemn Trump or dancing around the subject. And once/if Trump bows out Christie will try to remind/convince everyone that he was way ahead of the curve because he was the only one of the candidates who was not afraid to condemn Trump for what he was early in the race.
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Trump is in the lead by ridiculous margins, what makes you think he will simply bow out? You do realize conservatives vote for conservative candidates, right? Lol. Christie is running on a tired platform of Trump bashing that was beat to death by democrats years ago. He’s literally just an establishment plant at this point and everyone sees it (except democrats). It’s amazing to me you think he’s on the forefront of something special while he’s a failed governor of arguably the most corrupt state, has no platform and is polling near zero percent.
 
jonnyboy said:
Trump is in the lead by ridiculous margins, what makes you think he will simply bow out? You do realize conservatives vote for conservative candidates, right? Lol. Christie is running on a tired platform of Trump bashing that was beat to death by democrats years ago. He’s literally just an establishment plant at this point and everyone sees it (except democrats). It’s amazing to me you think he’s on the forefront of something special while he’s a failed governor of arguably the most corrupt state, has no platform and is polling near zero percent.
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I wish conservatives actually would vote for conservative candidates. Unfortunately the cult of personality and fearmongering has drowned out any legitimate conservatives.
 
jonnyboy said:
Trump is in the lead by ridiculous margins, what makes you think he will simply bow out? You do realize conservatives vote for conservative candidates, right? Lol. Christie is running on a tired platform of Trump bashing that was beat to death by democrats years ago. He’s literally just an establishment plant at this point and everyone sees it (except democrats). It’s amazing to me you think he’s on the forefront of something special while he’s a failed governor of arguably the most corrupt state, has no platform and is polling near zero percent.
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Because even he probably knows that even if he gets the nomination, he's "not electable". He got beat in 2020, what makes you think he's somehow picked up more support since 1/6/21?

He will bow out because of the above reason, and again because he's gonna need the money, also cited above.
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PtldPlatypus said:
I wish conservatives actually would vote for conservative candidates.
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I don’t know what this means really. What would be your definition of a conservative? I generally take issue with any mainstream democrat-republican comparisons because I find them to be nothing more than a distraction. It’s much more clear for me to parse between establishment or non-establishment politicians based on career history and voting history. I realize this forum is extremely mainstream friendly and I never expect wild ideas like that to make sense or track here but it’s generally my lens for viewing political ideas and actors. It seems many mainstream voters become extremely agitated and even perhaps scared when the sanctity of the two party paradigm is called into question. Must be a boomer comfort thing. They would almost rather watch the world explode and the younger generations OD or live in shipping crates than be even mildly inconvenienced by change.
 
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