OT Will Portland Become A War Zone This Weekend?

[calvin natt]

I swear to god if you think the okay sign is the white power sign......

Cmon. It wasn’t the OK sign.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

They literally break the law every single time these two groups get together. Not once has it been a peaceful protest.

Im not proficient in the laws of these things but from what I read, the local government has the ability to ban groups who they deem are dangerous to the citizens from having gatherings like this. Which again this is just what I read, means they could literally just start arresting them for gathering. Maybe thats incorrect, not sure. It seems to me though if every single time they “protest” it ends in damage to people or things, thats out of bounds and against the law.

 

[CupWizier]

Its still really freaking stupid that every time these groups get together people are hospitalized and yet they’re still allowed to roam...

well, we won't have to worry about it as trumpty dumpty is going to have the antifa group listed as a domestic terrorist group but no word on the right wingers being labeled as such. I guess there are good guys on that side and they support the idiot in the White House. So much for trump denouncing white nationalists. Doesn't want to upset his small base.All of these groups need to be sanctioned.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Cmon. It wasn’t the OK sign.

I posted this earlier, it looked like the ok sign to me, but people were upset about it so I did some googling of it, and apparently some racists groups have taken it for their purposes. I dont know but I will do more research and address it at work, since, we use that for saying our systems are up and running (the environment can get loud at times).

 

[calvin natt]

If you think all these guys are just say “ok” to the camera you are either ignorant or dumb or both

 

[Natebishop3]

I posted this earlier, it looked like the ok sign to me, but people were upset about it so I did some googling of it, and apparently some racists groups have taken it for their purposes. I dont know but I will do more research and address it at work, since, we use that for saying our systems are up and running (the environment can get loud at times).

It was literally a troll meme from 4chan. Liberals bought it hook line and sinker and now people use it to troll them.

 

[Natebishop3]

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ok-symbol-👌

 

[theprunetang]

It was literally a troll meme from 4chan. Liberals bought it hook line and sinker and now people use it to troll them.

Even a troll sign becomes real if it is used enough. That is how symbols get meaning.

 

[Natebishop3]

If you think all these guys are just say “ok” to the camera you are either ignorant or dumb or both

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So first it was the upside down okay sign that kids used as a caught you looking game. That was supposed to be the white supremacy sign. And now it's just the straight up okay sign?

 

[calvin natt]

So first it was the upside down okay sign that kids used as a caught you looking game. That was supposed to be the white supremacy sign. And now it's just the straight up okay sign?

Question: when was the last time you walked around holding up the OK sign? Better yet. When have you and a group of friends EVER walked around holding up an OK sign or any other sign? I mean, if someone is racist why not own it?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

If you think all these guys are just say “ok” to the camera you are either ignorant or dumb or both

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I might both dumb and ignorant, who knows. I didnt know literally anything about this sign until today.

 

[calvin natt]

I might both dumb and ignorant, who knows. I didnt know literally anything about this sign until today.

Not directed at you. But once someone does know what they’re doing, to deny it or make up some lame excuse is ridiculous

 

[Propagandist]

Prop...last year my 15 year old grand daughter, two friends and her mother were downtown and were verbally abused with hate speech and one actually threatened to tear my grand daughters shirt off that said "Youth for Christ". They were all in black and more than likely part of the Antifa traffic control police.Yes they are church going girls but have no hate for anyone and certainly wasn't downtown to vandalize property and spew hate.
I've yet to see Antifa express love/support for our country and freedoms. Instead they prefer anarchy against our government/corporations and citizens that respect and love our country.
The right wing nuts are just as bad imo, I think antifa would gain more support by being smarter and not threatening anyone young or old or destroying property and speaking about peace , good citizenship and revealing who they are so their message would be heard.

I 100% agree. I've just been offering a counterpoint. That, and I think they are much much more than just window smashing anarchists. And I'll gladly go so far to say if Antifa organized and stuck to the script, people would see them differently. The problem is that they aren't or don't and the result is chaos.

 

[MarAzul]

If you think all these guys are just say “ok” to the camera you are either ignorant or dumb or both

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I might both dumb and ignorant, who knows. I didnt know literally anything about this sign until today.

Not directed at you. But once someone does know what they’re doing, to deny it or make up some lame excuse is ridiculous

It looks like an OK sign to me. I have used it for about 50 years and so do others. Why should we quit, just because these guys do it?

 

[Propagandist]

If this is intended to part of a discussion, your avatar is spot on.

I'm not sure what Prince Lev Nikolayevich Myshkin has to do with anything, but me saying morally bankrupt is an understatement. It's boring to talk about, but there are few things more depressing than to hear (or read) unimpaired grownups unironically professing their support for a doddering, lecherous reprobate with the vocabulary of a toddler.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

It looks like an OK sign to me. I have used it for about 50 years and so do others. Why should we quit, just because these guys do it?

A few reasons, why offend people just cause, “thats what Ive always done”. Lawsuits, its easier as a business to try to change what were doing than accidently offend someone, or make them feel discriminated against.

Im not super politically correct, Ive told jokes laughed at jokes that probably on second thought not the best, but I dont want to troll people or make them mad. I try to be at peace with people.

 

[Natebishop3]

Not directed at you. But once someone does know what they’re doing, to deny it or make up some lame excuse is ridiculous

It's not a ridiculous excuse. It's actual fact. It was created to troll people like you. Documented. Proven.

 

[calvin natt]

It's not a ridiculous excuse. It's actual fact. It was created to troll people like you. Documented. Proven.

Just admit it. To yourself and others. At least Proud Boy pussies admit it.

 

[Natebishop3]

Just admit it. To yourself and others. At least Proud Boy pussies admit it.

So have they claimed the American flag as well? They fly it at every one of their rallies. Is the American flag a symbol of hatred and white power?

 

[The Professional Fan]

I swear to god if you think the okay sign is the white power sign......

Please tell me you're kidding

 

[barfo]

It's not a ridiculous excuse. It's actual fact. It was created to troll people like you. Documented. Proven.

The entire 'protest' today was created to troll people. So what?

barfo

 

[Propagandist]

And you are making the classic liberal mistake, which is equating all conservatives with nazis. Regardless, hate begets hate. Show me swastikas at any of these conservative protests in Portland. I have yet to see one. It's so easy to just write people off as racists and nazis and try to take the moral high ground, while most of the true violence that has occurred has happened at the hands of ANTIFA and during the anti-Trump protests.

Don't try to pigeonhole me, please...and wowzers. 1. Do you need acknowledgement to stop mentioning the post-election protests, ffs? If so, you've been acknowledged. I like you fine, man, but this insinuation that Antifa is why the Proud Boys are here is based on what? Antifa is a reactionary group, that has been around since the 1920s. 2. Have you been paying attention? I never said Nazi, but Richard Spencer gets it: Things are barely (or not) veiled these days and it's disgusting. These are racist times whether you see a swastika or not. Besides, it's the age of the dog whistle. 3. Trump is laying the blueprint for this shitty behavior on a national scale, and in shrugging our shoulders or scratching our heads, or as is commonplace, denying it, we are all complicit, classic liberal and classic conservative and all the rest. We have abandoned class and integrity for this tribal garbage. We should be running the Proud Boys and Antifa out of town ourselves.

 

[Propagandist]

I swear to god if you think the okay sign is the white power sign......

You are out-of-touch, my man. No wonder you don't see how fucked things are.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Don't try to pigeonhole me, please...and wowzers. 1. Do you need acknowledgement to stop mentioning the post-election protests, ffs? If so, you've been acknowledged. I like you fine, man, but this insinuation that Antifa is why the Proud Boys are here is based on what? Antifa is a reactionary group, that has been around since the 1920s. 2. Have you been paying attention? I never said Nazi, but Richard Spencer gets it: Things are barely (or not) veiled these days and it's disgusting. These are racist times whether you see a swastika or not. Besides, it's the age of the dog whistle. 3. Trump is laying the blueprint for this shitty behavior on a national scale, and in shrugging our shoulders or scratching our heads, or as is commonplace, denying it, we are all complicit, classic liberal and classic conservative and all the rest. We have abandoned class and integrity for this tribal garbage. We should be running the Proud Boys and Antifa out of town ourselves.

I mean no disrespect, and I awknowledge and agree with many of your points. I dislike Trump a lot, so dont take this as a defense of him. I think Trump’s “figure-head” as some Far Right racist gets kind of over played. This country was no less Racist 20 years ago then it is today.

Just my opinion, but I hear he’s “emboldened”, racists and all that and maybe to some extent thats true, but I just think that many people now have a “figure” they can point too. For years it was the KKK, and Hitler, or Stalin, etc, when we have “one” guy to blame, it seems like it’s easier for people to rationalize and gives them a name to attach to their feelings.

It seems to me, that Trump is at the point with many people that literally everything he says, someone will say oh it’s racism, or homophobic, or whatever. I think just as much as he’s created a target for his back, there are those who have played into that and its like just the fact he said something will make them mad.

Edit: I think politicians have been making racists feel at home for far too long, and it has happened for years long before Trump.

 

[Natebishop3]

The entire 'protest' today was created to troll people. So what?

barfo

Now you're getting it!

 

[MarAzul]

why offend people just cause, “thats what Ive always done”.

Well you know, the OK sign was started by one of the astronauts that went to the moon, people have been widely using it for years now. Just because these dudes want to usurp it, if that is what they have in mind, does not mean they own it.
People that wish to be offended will always find a way to be offended. It is an OK sign to me, and I have no idea what these guys think, many here think they do, but I do not.

 

[calvin natt]

So have they claimed the American flag as well? They fly it at every one of their rallies. Is the American flag a symbol of hatred and white power?

It’s fake. Now they have fooled you. They hide behind these fake shields like the flag, the Bible, things that give them an excuse. “We just love America”. No you don’t. You don’t love America. You love white people. You don’t love the Bible. You hide behind it as well. You don’t do unto others as you would have done unto you. You’re fake. They can throw up a flag or a Bible or a hand gesture it is just a way to throw to express themselves as the cowards they are.

 

[calvin natt]

I mean no disrespect, and I awknowledge and agree with many of your points. I dislike Trump a lot, so dont take this as a defense of him. I think Trump’s “figure-head” as some Far Right racist gets kind of over played. This country was no less Racist 20 years ago then it is today.

Just my opinion, but I hear he’s “emboldened”, racists and all that and maybe to some extent thats true, but I just think that many people now have a “figure” they can point too. For years it was the KKK, and Hitler, or Stalin, etc, when we have “one” guy to blame, it seems like it’s easier for people to rationalize and gives them a name to attach to their feelings.

It seems to me, that Trump is at the point with many people that literally everything he says, someone will say oh it’s racism, or homophobic, or whatever. I think just as much as he’s created a target for his back, there are those who have played into that and its like just the fact he said something will make them mad.

Edit: I think politicians have been making racists feel at home for far too long, and it has happened for years long before Trump.

Yes. That’s what you get when you say racist and dumb shit. Everything you say going forward will be taken as racist and dumb. If you don’t say racist and dumb shit, then people don’t jump to those conclusions. We cannot have people justifying any of this shit.

 

[Natebishop3]

It’s fake. Now they have fooled you. They hide behind these fake shields like the flag, the Bible, things that give them an excuse. “We just love America”. No you don’t. You don’t love America. You love white people. You don’t love the Bible. You hide behind it as well. You don’t do unto others as you would have done unto you. You’re fake. They can throw up a flag or a Bible or a hand gesture it is just a way to throw to express themselves as the cowards they are.

They haven't fooled anything. I don't take literally everything I read on the internet as fact.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Yes. That’s what you get when you say racist and dumb shit. Everything you say going forward will be taken as racist and dumb. If you don’t say racist and dumb shit, then people don’t jump to those conclusions. We cannot have people justifying any of this shit.

Im not trying to justify what he’s saying. Frankly though thats not the way I view things. I thought Obama said some dumb stuff, but I still listened to him, I cant think of a single person who hasnt said something dumb it doesnt mean I view everything they say as dumb. I guess the issue I see, is that when all of a sudden, we started throwing stones every time someone says something, it waters down the truly crazy, racist stuff thats actually being said.

It seems like everyday or so Trump says something and people get riled up about it, sometimes its more than worth being upset, sometimes its not. However because its literally everyday that someone is upset about what he’s said, its made it really hard to remember the really bad stuff he’s sad, which theres a long list of that too.