OT Will Portland Become A War Zone This Weekend?

[jonnyboy]

I call white supremicists Nazis as a loose term.

Does that make it easier to walk it back when someone calls you out on your crap?

 

[andalusian]

They chalk everything they do up to “anti-facism”. So once again you’re only argument is that they say they are doing something good, so they must be. Well, they’re lying. How about that?

Either that - or the opposite argument is that everyone that opposes fascists you call antifa even if they are not violent.

Chicken, egg?

 

[jonnyboy]

Either that - or the opposite argument is that everyone that opposes fascists you call antifa even if they are not violent.

Chicken, egg?

Nice try with the Jedi mind tricks, let’s stay on task though.

Immature, jobless adults with nothing to lose aren’t ‘fighting facism’ by hitting people with pipes and destroying bystanders property. You and @calvin natt can keep running your mental gymnastics to try and justify antifas bullshit, but no matter how loud you scream “nazi!” you won’t make it ok to assault people, threaten them and destroy their property.

Let’s just be clear: There were no Nazis rallying downtown Portland this weekend. Deep down you guys align yourselves with the same ideologies as antifa members so you feel the need to justify their abhorrent actions by making exaggerated claims of nazism and facism against the frat boy douchebag club called proud boys, who your guys were protesting against. With every protest the proud boys look like bigger douches, antifa looks less heroic and more like children who’s parents aren’t home, and your defense of them becomes more perplexing.

 

[andalusian]

Nice try with the Jedi mind tricks, let’s stay on task though.

Immature, jobless adults with nothing to lose aren’t ‘fighting facism’ by hitting people with pipes and destroying bystanders property. You and @calvin natt can keep running your mental gymnastics to try and justify antifas bullshit, but no matter how loud you scream “nazi!” you won’t make it ok to assault people, threaten them and destroy their property.

Does everyone that goes to protest fascist events call themselves antifa? Are all of them violent?

I have no fucking problem with people opposing fascist events and nor should you (do you?). Unless only those that call themselves antifa are violent - you are just wrong.

 

[jonnyboy]

Does everyone that goes to protest fascist events call themselves antifa? Are all of them violent?

I have no fucking problem with people opposing fascist events and nor should you (do you?). Unless only those that call themselves antifa are violent - you are just wrong.

I was quite clear in singling out antifa. That’s why I kept referring to them as antifa.

“They’re not all violent though!”

Boo fucking hoo. If someone’s part of a group that acts out violently then they can go fuck themselves.

I get it dude. You’re down with their views, and that’s enough for you to turn your head when they fuck shit up. Conversation over.

 

[calvin natt]

Does that make it easier to walk it back when someone calls you out on your crap?

Ok. I’ll go back to calling them Nazis. Whatever makes you feel comfortable justifying and defending your boys. Call them whatever you want. White nationalist, white supremicists, Nazis, Proud Boys, it’s all the same. They a verrrry “proud” of their whiteness. And 10/10 times when someone feels the need to march and protest or whatever the fuck the proud boys do about being proud of their whiteness, they all land in the same bucket.

 

[andalusian]

I get it dude. You’re down with their views, and that’s enough for you to turn your head when they fuck shit up. Conversation over.

I told you that I did not associate everyone that protest fascists as violent. Obviously - you seem to think that anyone that calls himself antifa is violent but are not willing to accept that you might be wrong and that there are some that call themselves the same because it literally means anti-fascist.

I do not think that every conservative (or even most or many) is a fascist scum - even tho there are some that clearly are.

But, it is loud and clear. You know because you know. Understood.

 

[jonnyboy]

Ok. I’ll go back to calling them Nazis. Whatever makes you feel comfortable justifying and defending your boys. Call them whatever you want. White nationalist, white supremicists, Nazis, Proud Boys, it’s all the same. They a verrrry “proud” of their whiteness. And 10/10 times when someone feels the need to march and protest or whatever the fuck the proud boys do about being proud of their whiteness, they all land in the same bucket.

I never defended the proud boys, I just suggested that they aren’t nazis, and pretending they are nazis doesn’t justify destroying things and assaulting people. You however, have repeatedly run into a wall ACTUALLY defending antifa. Now that you’ve run out of ridiculous arguments, you’ve resorted to lumping me in with.....THE NAZIS!!!

 

[calvin natt]

I never defended the proud boys, I just suggested that they aren’t nazis, and pretending they are nazis doesn’t justify destroying things and assaulting people. You however, have repeatedly run into a wall ACTUALLY defending antifa. Now that you’ve run out of ridiculous arguments, you’ve resorted to lumping me in with.....THE NAZIS!!!

I have said there is no excuse for Antifas actions. I have also said that if it’s a close call, I side with the non Nazis. Call me crazy but white nationalists aren’t my thing. And since both sides are fucked up, if I had to go with one or the other, I go with the non racists. I have not once justified Antifa assaulting anyone.

 

[H.C.]

Which side has the most Nazis?

Yeah that’s the side I’m not on. That side is worse. I’m getting tired of the “both sides are bad”. Yeah, sure, the Antifi side does real shitty things and I’m not a fan. But in baseball tie goes to the runner. In this, tie goes to the non Nazi crowd.

This is actually a misunderstood rule.
There are no tie's in baseball.
There is no rule that says tie goes to the runner.
The rule states the runner must beat the ball to the base. If he doesn't he is out.
No where in the rule book will you find the words 'tie goes to the runner'.

 

[calvin natt]

This is actually a misunderstood rule.
There are no tie's in baseball.
There is no rule that says tie goes to the runner.
The rule states the runner must beat the ball to the base. If he doesn't he is out.
No where in the rule book will you find the words 'tie goes to the runner'.

It exists in backyard baseball

 

[H.C.]

It exists in backyard baseball

Backyard baseball is incorrectly interrupting the rule.
There are no tie's in baseball.

 

[CupWizier]

This is actually a misunderstood rule.
There are no tie's in baseball.
There is no rule that says tie goes to the runner.
The rule states the runner must beat the ball to the base. If he doesn't he is out.
No where in the rule book will you find the words 'tie goes to the runner'.

Actually the rule is the fielder needs tag the base before the runner touches the base on a force out, thus a tie goes to the runner as the runner and fielder touched at the same time. There are only 3 scenarios in that situation. The runner beats the ball, the ball beats the runner or the ball and runner arrive at the same time. Only in the second situation is the runner out

 

[The Professional Fan]

Antifa is a name they gave themselves, not a definition. They are dangerous, delusional scumbags and anarchists with the objective to assault and cause damage.

I could call myself "Man with the 10" cock", doesn't make it true.

Hi

 

[oldfisherman]

Hi

Wow, what a thug.

Violence should never be the first option. NEVER!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Hi

Has nothing to do with my post.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

White Subterraneanist.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Ive got so many questions.

 

[barfo]

You better decide which side you're on
This ship goes down before too long
If Left is right then Right is Wrong
You better decide which side you're on

barfo

 

[barfo]

Backyard baseball is incorrectly interrupting the rule.
There are no tie's in baseball.

How do you explain this then?

barfo

 

[Lanny]

This is actually a misunderstood rule.
There are no tie's in baseball.
There is no rule that says tie goes to the runner.
The rule states the runner must beat the ball to the base. If he doesn't he is out.
No where in the rule book will you find the words 'tie goes to the runner'.

Kind of nit picking there, don't you think.

 

[Lanny]

Wow, what a thug.

Violence should never be the first option. NEVER!

It was my first option when someone large and burly denigrated my wife for being Asian (You no readee signee?), bam, I slugged the son of a bitch and I'd do it again if I could reach that far wtth my cane while using my walker if someone was that mean to my wife or other family. I'll tell you what, he quickly apologized.

 

[oldfisherman]

It was my first option when someone large and burly denigrated my wife for being Asian (You no readee signee?), bam, I slugged the son of a bitch and I'd do it again if I could reach that far wtth my cane while using my walker if someone was that mean to my wife or other family. I'll tell you what, he quickly apologized.

My post was not clear.

I was responding about the thug violently going after people he disagrees with. Violence should never be his first option. However...

How one defends oneself, or defends others such as family members, from attacks may require a first option that is violent. In the Marine Corps, we used the phrase: adusting their attitude by taking their head off and shitting down their throat. The fellow in the video is going to be digesting shit someday when he gets violent with the wrong person.

 

[dviss1]

Really quickly:

 

[dviss1]

My post was not clear.

I was responding about the thug violently going after people he disagrees with. Violence should never be his first option. However...

How one defends oneself, or defends others such as family members, from attacks may require a first option that is violent. In the Marine Corps, we used the phrase: adusting their attitude by taking their head off and shitting down their throat. The fellow in the video is going to be digesting shit someday when he gets violent with the wrong person.

If you call someone something racist it's not a fucking "disagreement"...

What I'm the actual fuck are you talking about??

 

[dviss1]

Kind of nit picking there, don't you think.

Exactly. Just like there's no rule that says

"hand is part of the ball"

But if you slap the shit outta someone's hand while they're dribbling or holding the ball it's completely legal.

The rule specifically says "wrist".

 

[jonnyboy]

Really quickly:

What if the counter protesters are the ones breaking shit and assaulting people? Still not ok to be upset?

Also, there were no nazis present in Portland this weekend. Call them assholes or right wingers or white nationalists if you want to be accurate. Screaming “Nazi!” doesn’t justify antifa breaking shit and hurting people. You are just making an exaggeration to justify your support of antifas ideologies. The overuse of the word nazi is an insult to Jews and others who actually fought a noble fight against a real threat to the world.

 

[Hoopguru]

The word Nazi is being used way to much, imo.
Im a moderate American that grew up in a fundamental christian home, grew up in North Portland, am Irish, have many friends of color, grandkids that are Amerasian, Patriotic and supportive of our troops, and I have an American Flag with the Pledge as my truck receiver hitch cover and a flag flying from my house, I don't respect the Antifa movement or White Nationalist movement, and I LOVE TO FISH.
Some in here would call me a Nazi based on what I just shared. But you would be wrong and foolish.
Im actually a pretty likable guy that always try to give people the benefit of doubt and support regardless of any ideology.
Nazi is being slung around way to much.

 

[calvin natt]

The word Nazi is being used way to much, imo.
Im a moderate American that grew up in a fundamental christian home, grew up in North Portland, am Irish, have many friends of color, grandkids that are Amerasian, Patriotic and supportive of our troops, and I have an American Flag with the Pledge as my truck receiver hitch cover and a flag flying from my house, I don't respect the Antifa movement or White Nationalist movement, and I LOVE TO FISH.
Some in here would call me a Nazi based on what I just shared. But you would be wrong and foolish.
Im actually a pretty likable guy that always try to give people the benefit of doubt and support regardless of any ideology.
Nazi is being slung around way to much.

Not a single person in here would call you a Nazi based on your love of fishing or the hitch on your truck or having a flag. I have seen it thrown around at people and groups who have been affiliated with racists. I think its pretty easy to avoid being called a Nazi.