...will the Yanx regret not signing DRob?

[yankeesince59]

...IMO, eventually, yes, they will.

 

[Messiah717]

I think this is a huge mistake. Unless you're telling me a difference maker or two is on the way in free agency. Drob should've been signed to what's a very reasonable contract.

 

[yankeesince59]

...mess, to be honest, if I had to choose between one of the 2, I'd rather have DRob than Miller.

...I say this because DRob has been more durable and already had a proven track record in NY and with the Yanx.

 

[Rick2583]

I think this is a huge mistake. Unless you're telling me a difference maker or two is on the way in free agency. Drob should've been signed to what's a very reasonable contract.

Vic I've got to agree, for the money he's getting the Yankees could have & should have matched that offer. I mean you're looking at what, 11.5M per? Look I want to see Betances succeed but if he fails as a closer we're screwed. I mean if that happens you can always flip-flop him with Miller but the bottom line is, the Yankees IMO should have matched the offer.

 

[blgridesagain]

Would've liked to see Drob in this pen along with Miller and Betances- wow....
Another thing about him which isn't mentioned alot is his consistency over the years at what he does.
You can pencil him in for his usual across the board numbers.

I have no problem with the Yanks going with Betances as the closer, however, it is true neither him or Miller have actually demonstrated they can handle the everyday rigors of being the 9th inn guy.
It would've been a nice luxury to have Drob in the event Betances/Miller falter but the bottom line is the Yanks still have TWO late inning relievers with electric stuff who can shut down LH and RH batters. Not too shabby, lol.

 

[totus44]

Look obviously DRob wanted to go somewhere to be THE 9th inning guy. And frankly dealing with that plus the pressure of following Mo and the impending circus around ARod next year, he did what was in his best interest. WS gonna make a run, Yanks not close at this point.

Its difficult to make the assumption that even by matching that offer that he'd stay in NY. We need more details.

 

[Messiah717]

...mess, to be honest, if I had to choose between one of the 2, I'd rather have DRob than Miller.

...I say this because DRob has been more durable and already had a proven track record in NY and with the Yanx.

I totally agree. Not to mention the 7th, 8th and 9th inning could've been locked down. I know Betances is a great talent but it remains to be seen if he can close. You had a guy who did very well following the great Mariano and now he's gone.

 

[Messiah717]

Look obviously DRob wanted to go somewhere to be THE 9th inning guy. And frankly dealing with that plus the pressure of following Mo and the impending circus around ARod next year, he did what was in his best interest. WS gonna make a run, Yanks not close at this point.

Its difficult to make the assumption that even by matching that offer that he'd stay in NY. We need more details.

He was the Yankee closer. Not sure why he needed to go somewhere else to be the closer.

 

[Yankeefan5545]

Look obviously DRob wanted to go somewhere to be THE 9th inning guy. And frankly dealing with that plus the pressure of following Mo and the impending circus around ARod next year, he did what was in his best interest. WS gonna make a run, Yanks not close at this point.

Its difficult to make the assumption that even by matching that offer that he'd stay in NY. We need more details.

Headley & D-rob were reported on MLB yesterday that they both wished to be Yankees but were looking for that 4th year further stating that the Yankees would wish to lower the salary a taste. During that discussion Harold Reynolds blurted out with "Hey I'm sorry but A-rod is coming back". From there that conversation turned south. And I agree, A-rod is going to be a Spring Training Media Circus that is going to upset the whole cart.

 

[blgridesagain]

I would prefer to have all three (Drob,Betances,Miller)- but instead the Yanks now have a late inning reliever (Miller), who is every bit as dominant and probably more so than Robertson, at a cost of 2.25 mil $ per year less,
...PLUS a draft choice at the end of the first round.

Not exactly the end of the world. lol

 

[yankeesince59]

...I know what you mean, extra draft picks are nice but I'd rather have established players who have already proven they can play vs a draftee/prospect who may or may not pan out someday.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

I too would of preferred to of seen D-Rob and Miller, with Betances as a Closer. If he couldn't close, which I believe Betances is more than capable of Slamming the Door Shut.

I'm kinda disappointed D-Rob walked, yet I'd of not paid him 15 Mil$$ either, even 46$ is alot of dough, for someone who has yet to totally dominate. Yet, Papelbuns is not a true Closer IMHO. He has had too many blown saves...going back to Beantown....

The again, like HR said, we always got MLB savior returning.....yeah, effing right.....

A-Roid will never look like this...........

 

[blgridesagain]

No doubt about it - it remains to be seen whether or not Betances and/or Miller has what it takes to be a closer on a consistent basis.

Drob unquestionably has shown he can pitch in high-pressure situations, in NY, for a much longer period.
But - he has been a closer for just one season. There are no guarantees he can do it very well for four more years or how he's going to handle blowing a few games in the 9th inning from here on out.
There is a certain kind of mental make-up required.

With Betances and Miller, the Yanks have a chance to at least mix and match in the event one or the other falters without anyone's ego being damaged. I'm sure neither one will have a problem being "regulated" to 8th inning set-up duty.

 

[Messiah717]

The bottom line is that Drob had pretty much a 40 save season in New York on a team that wasn't all that great. He wasn't going to leave the closer spot nor should he. He hit the market and wanted a solid closer contract. Would would be devalue himself?

 

[Messiah717]

No doubt about it - it remains to be seen whether or not Betances and/or Miller has what it takes to be a closer on a consistent basis.

Drob unquestionably has shown he can pitch in high-pressure situations, in NY, for a much longer period.
But - he has been a closer for just one season. There are no guarantees he can do it very well for four more years or how he's going to handle blowing a few games in the 9th inning from here on out.
There is a certain kind of mental make-up required.

With Betances and Miller, the Yanks have a chance to at least mix and match in the event one or the other falters without anyone's ego being damaged. I'm sure neither one will have a problem being "regulated" to 8th inning set-up duty.

Yeah but Miller and Betances haven't shown anything. Drob did the job well and seemed to have the head for it. Prior to that he was solid in the setup slot. There's nothing that would lead me to believe that suddenly Drob couldn't handle the job.

 

[blgridesagain]

Yeah but Miller and Betances haven't shown anything. Drob did the job well and seemed to have the head for it. Prior to that he was solid in the setup slot. There's nothing that would lead me to believe that suddenly Drob couldn't handle the job.

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I'm aware Miller and Betances "haven't shown anything" (as a closer) - it was in the first sentence of my post (#13).
And there's also nothing that would lead me to believe that suddenly Drob couldn't handle the job.
I only said there were no guarantees he could do it very well for four more years.

 

[Messiah717]

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I'm aware Miller and Betances "haven't shown anything" (as a closer) - it was in the first sentence of my post (#13).
And there's also nothing that would lead me to believe that suddenly Drob couldn't handle the job.
I only said there were no guarantees he could do it very well for four more years.

He's 29 years old and has been solid. There's nothing that states he couldn't. There's no guarantees of anything in sports so it's a little silly to go that route.

 

[yankeesince59]

The bottom line is that Drob had pretty much a 40 save season in New York on a team that wasn't all that great. He wasn't going to leave the closer spot nor should he. He hit the market and wanted a solid closer contract. Would would be devalue himself?

...spot on.

...as I've pointed out, DRob actually had a better year than Mo did in his final year...and Robertson was also asked to go more than 1 inning multiple times.

 

[blgridesagain]

He's 29 years old and has been solid. There's nothing that states he couldn't. There's no guarantees of anything in sports so it's a little silly to go that route.

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I would certainly expect Drob to be an effective closer for another four years-
It's safe to say a bigger issue is whether or not the Yanks actually DID offer him a contract.

 

[yankeesince59]

...^^^ No.

 

[blgridesagain]

Recently read something which kinda sums it up nicely - Yanks made a very tough decision.

Paying a slight premium for Robertson’s New York experience and much bigger track record might be the right move. However, receiving the compensatory draft pick by letting Robertson walk is valuable. In the end, the Yankees valued the draft pick compensation from not resigning Robertson and the slight cost savings over the track record of Robertson and his familiarity with New York.

 

[Hammerojustice]

I've said it before, I'll say it again.... How many pitchers have been let go, traded away, or released by the Yankees that have been studs in their subsequent teams? Can't be too many...

 

[totus44]

Beyond the 4th year, DRob isn't looking over his shoulder at Betances. Face it....he was the rebound closer. Would have been a nice signing, but this avoids the closer role issue for a team that's gonna have some other major issues to deal with.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

I've said it before, I'll say it again.... How many pitchers have been let go, traded away, or released by the Yankees that have been studs in their subsequent teams? Can't be too many...

I'm Not sure if your saying, those players who have chosen to go elsewhere other than NY on their own, or by trade.

The 1st two who come to mind, is but 1 Pitcher: Al Leiter. I remember seeing his very 1st Yanx debut. He was billed as the Yankx #1 Prospect then trade. Al hurt us when he was a Marlin. He did not hurt us so much in the subway W.S. but IMO was still quit a stud. With McGriff, we would of had no Donnie BB.

 

[Hammerojustice]

I'm Not sure if your saying, those players who have chosen to go elsewhere other than NY on their own, or by trade.

The 1st two who come to mind, is but 1 Pitcher: Al Leiter. I remember seeing his very 1st Yanx debut. He was billed as the Yankx #1 Prospect then trade. Al hurt us when he was a Marlin. He did not hurt us so much in the subway W.S. but IMO was still quit a stud. With McGriff, we would of had no Donnie BB.

Either.... And he beat us that year, but my point is, the Yankees don't typically get hurt when a pitcher is either traded away or allowed to sign elsewhere....