With Roy Going Down, Do You Think...

[ABM]

it's "more" likely KP makes a trade, or "less" likely?

Personally, I'm not sure.

If I had to hazard a guess, though, I'd probably say less likely as KP just might want to shut 'er down and let the cards fall where they may.

 

[THE HCP]

Less

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I think more likey because now Blake, Rudy, Bayless, Webster and Batum will get more minutes and allow other teams to get a real good look at them.

 

[oldguy]

I'd guess less likely, if for no other reason than they will have to take another trading chip off the table....probably Rudy.

Go Blazers

 

[chris_in_pdx]

The way this team is playing and all parties are bringing it every night... less. They'll make the playoffs and be a better team next year.

 

[ABM]

I think more likey because now Blake, Rudy, Bayless, Webster and Batum will get more minutes and allow other teams to get a real good look at them.

If the Blazers lose with those guys, their respective values go down. Conversely, if the Blazers win with them, KP may not want to pull the trigger.

It's a very interesting proposition.

 

[julius]

well obviously we have to shut down everyone and start Jerryd and Blake at every position.

 

[Minstrel]

Less.

I think he'll be less and less inclined to make a mid-season "go for it" addition as the injuries continue to pile up, since this is clearly not a contending year. He'll probably be as willing as before to make a trade to bolster the team going forward (future seasons), but those usually aren't made mid-season...though, if it came along mid-season I don't see any reason why he'd pass it up.

 

[BBert]

I think the fewer healthy bodies on the court the less practical or likely it is to make a meaningful trade.

On the other hand, if Miller keeps leading this depleted team to victories, and keeps putting up the stats he has been, he could look like a very valuable addition to a team needing a point guard.

 

[BenDavis503]

We don't need a trade. Not sure why every 12 hours someone posts that we need a trade.

This site... lol

 

[Trader Ed]

what do you mean.. with Roy going down? what happened now? I was out

 

[ABM]

what do you mean.. with Roy going down? what happened now? I was out

Hammy again. Apparently, coming home from road trip.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think the injuries have shown what we have sitting on our bench. What have we learned?

Andre Miller is just as good as I thought he'd be.

Jerryd Bayless is still rough around the edges, but he's just as talented as we all thought.

Martell Webster can be consistent.

Jeff Pendergraph and Dante Cunningham deserve minutes.

Steve Blake and Rudy Fernandez aren't quite as integral as some of us thought.

What I have taken from all those points is that we need to move some people. When everyone is healthy again (whenever that might be) this team is going to be far too crowded to be productive. The play of Andre Miller, Jerryd Bayless, and Martell Webster have made Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw, and Rudy Fernandez expendable. The play of Pendergraph, Howard, and Cunningham have made Joel Przybilla expendable. I would like to see Pendergraph, Bayless, and Webster continue to get regular minutes in the rotation. When Blake, Outlaw, and Przybilla are all back from injuries next season, it will make it very hard to find playing time for all these guys.

So, I think we need to move Blake, Outlaw, Joel, and possibly even Rudy. If those four players are gone, it will open things up, give guys a chance to keep playing, and hopefully bring in a player that will round out our rotation. Either that, or we need to capitalize on Webster's play and move him while he has value for a small forward that can be a legitimate third scorer.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yk98doj

Miller/Mills
Bayless
Butler/Webster
LMA/Pendergraph/Cunningham
Haywood/Howard

That would be our team until Batum, Roy and Oden come back.

Next season it would look like this

Miller/Bayless/Mills
Roy/Webster
Butler/Batum
LMA/Pendergraph/Cunningham
Oden/Haywood

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think the injuries have shown what we have sitting on our bench. What have we learned?

Andre Miller is just as good as I thought he'd be.

Jerryd Bayless is still rough around the edges, but he's just as talented as we all thought.

Martell Webster can be consistent.

Jeff Pendergraph and Dante Cunningham deserve minutes.

Steve Blake and Rudy Fernandez aren't quite as integral as some of us thought.

What I have taken from all those points is that we need to move some people. When everyone is healthy again (whenever that might be) this team is going to be far too crowded to be productive. The play of Andre Miller, Jerryd Bayless, and Martell Webster have made Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw, and Rudy Fernandez expendable. The play of Pendergraph, Howard, and Cunningham have made Joel Przybilla expendable. I would like to see Pendergraph, Bayless, and Webster continue to get regular minutes in the rotation. When Blake, Outlaw, and Przybilla are all back from injuries next season, it will make it very hard to find playing time for all these guys.

So, I think we need to move Blake, Outlaw, Joel, and possibly even Rudy. If those four players are gone, it will open things up, give guys a chance to keep playing, and hopefully bring in a player that will round out our rotation. Either that, or we need to capitalize on Webster's play and move him while he has value for a small forward that can be a legitimate third scorer.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yk98doj

Miller/Mills
Bayless
Butler/Webster
LMA/Pendergraph/Cunningham
Haywood/Howard

That would be our team until Batum, Roy and Oden come back.

Next season it would look like this

Miller/Bayless/Mills
Roy/Webster
Butler/Batum
LMA/Pendergraph/Cunningham
Oden/Haywood

If I'm the Wiz I only question whether or not I can do better ... maybe yes, maybe no ... but if it was on the table and I were KP I'd pull the trigger yesterday.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

it's "more" likely KP makes a trade, or "less" likely?

Personally, I'm not sure.

If I had to hazard a guess, though, I'd probably say less likely as KP just might want to shut 'er down and let the cards fall where they may.

You obviously didn't get the memo.

With the exception of Pryzbilla the Blazers will be 100% healthy and at full strength in time for the playoffs while the rest of the teams will be breaking down with injuries of their own.

 

[ABM]

You obviously didn't get the memo.

With the exception of Pryzbilla the Blazers will be 100% healthy and at full strength in time for the playoffs while the rest of the teams will be breaking down with injuries of their own.

Not gonna happen. This team is doomed. I just wish I knew who's holding the voo-doo dolls.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

This team is doomed.

Hey Denny, it looks like Mixum hacked into ABM's S2 account.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

it's "more" likely KP makes a trade, or "less" likely?

Personally, I'm not sure.

If I had to hazard a guess, though, I'd probably say less likely as KP just might want to shut 'er down and let the cards fall where they may.

This doesn't affect any potential trade. Either he has one in mind or he doesn't.

 

[Natebishop3]

If I'm the Wiz I only question whether or not I can do better ... maybe yes, maybe no ... but if it was on the table and I were KP I'd pull the trigger yesterday.

If Butler were included, and they were dragging their feet, I would offer up Webster in place of Outlaw. I would rather keep Webster though.

 

[ABM]

Hey Denny, it looks like Mixum hacked into ABM's S2 account.

I'm just a realist. Get a clue.

 

[Blazer_Hippie]

This doesn't affect any potential trade.

Basically agree with that for the most part. We're looking to fill a long term need, our long term needs haven't changed due to short term injuries...

 

[Boob-No-More]

On the other hand, if Miller keeps leading this depleted team to victories, and keeps putting up the stats he has been, he could look like a very valuable addition to a team needing a point guard.

You mean like Portland? Seriously, for all the knuckle heads on this forum that were trying to tell us just one to two weeks ago that Andre Miller doesn't help his team win games and will never fit in in Portland (here and here), where would we be without him now?

BTW, where have all the Andre Miller haters gone? They sure seem awful quite these days.

BNM

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

You mean like Portland? Seriously, for all the knuckle heads on this forum that were trying to tell us just one to two weeks ago that Andre Miller doesn't help his team win games and will never fit in in Portland (here and here), where would we be without him now?

BTW, where have all the Andre Miller haters gone? They sure seem awful quite these days.

BNM

Well PapaG was exiled, soooo

 

[Natebishop3]

Well PapaG was exiled, soooo

Self exiled

 

[Boob-No-More]

Well PapaG was exiled, soooo

I wasn't even thinking of him. He was gone before the latest round of Miller bashing. There were plenty of other posters parroting the John Canzano "Miller doesn't fit with Portland. He'll never fit. You know it. I know it. The Blazers players know it." position as published in his column less than two weeks ago.

Valuable lesson to all posters:

If you ever find yourself sharing an opinion on the NBA salary cap, or player talent with John Canzano, it's time to get a new opinion.

If John Canzano was our GM, our starting backcourt would be Adam Morrison and Pooh Jeter, and our starting center would be Sean May. For those keeping score at home, those three players (at least the two who are actually on NBA rosters) have scored a total of 80 points this season in the 32 games they've played in. By comparison, Andre "doesn't fit with Portland. He'll never fit. You know it. I know it. The Blazers players know it." Miller has scored 84 points in his last four games.

BNM

 

[rocketeer]

Andre Miller is just as good as I thought he'd be.

so you still think he's a top 10 pg? i don't see how you possibly could, but it seems to be what you're suggesting.

 

[Natebishop3]

so you still think he's a top 10 pg? i don't see how you possibly could, but it seems to be what you're suggesting.

I don't remember calling him a top ten point guard...

He's better than Steve Blake and that's good enough for me.

 

[BlazerBenner]

Less likely, as two of his main trade options were Steve Blake and Andre Miller. They are both needed right now.

 

[BlazerBenner]

The way this team is playing and all parties are bringing it every night... less. They'll make the playoffs and be a better team next year.

For the record, the team is getting worse each month. The injuries have been taking their toll and they continue to take a greater toll every week as the season moves along.

 

[Boob-No-More]

so you still think he's a top 10 pg? i don't see how you possibly could, but it seems to be what you're suggesting.

Perhaps not, but it's close. He's currently 12th among starting PGs in PER (and that includes the indefinitely suspended Gilbert Arenas) and 9th in Win Shares.

I've never personally called him a top 10 PG, but I have said he's an above average starting PG and that makes him better than anyone to play that position for the Blazers in a very long time.

BNM