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Zach Edey is freaking huge

Essentially 7'4 barefoot, 300 lbs, and a 7'11" inch wing span?

I am more impressed with Ke'el Ware at 14
7' 230, with a 7'4 1/2 wing span
 
Rob Dillingham will slip IMO
6'1 164 lbs and a 6'3" wing span
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Those are solid measurements for Holland as an SF. Especially when you consider how athletic he is. Still only 18 years old so he will fill out.
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I am very happy to see this. He's two inches taller than Shaedon without shoes, and is very well sized as an SF. Shooting obviously a big question mark, but I have him and Cody neck and neck right now. Also gotta keep in mind, he's a yr younger than Matas.
 


Cody same height as Holland? Doesn’t look like it in film. Also the wingspan is 1 inch shorter than reported @MrDraftGuy
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Zach Edey is freaking huge

Essentially 7'4 barefoot, 300 lbs, and a 7'11" inch wing span?
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Just don't' see how he's going to stay on the court in the NBA - players will get him in space and score all over him.

Maybe as a limited minutes bench guy like Boban he could do something.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Just don't' see how he's going to stay on the court in the NBA - players will get him in space and score all over him.

Maybe as a limited minutes bench guy like Boban he could do something.
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I wonder exactly how much room for improvement there is for a guy his size with regard to agility and lateral quickness. Is this weakness of his something that simply can't be overcome, or is he just stuck being a giant stiff?
 
B-Roy said:
A bit better, but still the last guy I want of the wings.

I'd rank it:

Cody
Risacher
Matas
Holland
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Honest question….how do you know who you want and don’t want? Have you actually seen all these guys play? Drafts are always a crap shoot obviously….and in the past I wished we drafted certain players based solely on what I saw watching them play. This year, I couldn’t tell you anything about these guys,other than some stiffs I saw that I definitely DON’T want play in the tourney.
 
My issue with Holland is that most of his perceived strengths are on-ball. He put up counting stats as the number one option on the Ignite. He's not going to get near those same opportunities here (nor should he) with Scoot/Shaedon/Ant. He needs the right team because he's going to be playing off ball for the majority of his early career. Even if he's good defensively (which he won't be early), I see a Rondae Hollis-Jefferson role for him which is just not good for development.

Buzelis has some of the same issues, but the measureables means Buzelis will have an easier time moving up to play the 4. And I can see the vision with a true 6'9 wing as a connector piece.
 
THE HCP said:
Honest question….how do you know who you want and don’t want? Have you actually seen all these guys play? Drafts are always a crap shoot obviously….and in the past I wished we drafted certain players based solely on what I saw watching them play. This year, I couldn’t tell you anything about these guys,other than some stiffs I saw that I definitely DON’T want play in the tourney.
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This is a forum with people giving their opinions and having discussions. No I have not watched every game these guys played, nor should I have to since I'm not the one making the decisions. Don't get too bent out of shape.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I wonder exactly how much room for improvement there is for a guy his size with regard to agility and lateral quickness. Is this weakness of his something that simply can't be overcome, or is he just stuck being a giant stiff?
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Players don't improve agility or quickness.

They might greatly improve overall defense but its from positioning, gaining strength, preparation, effort, and developing high IQ plays.
 
THE HCP said:
Honest question….how do you know who you want and don’t want? Have you actually seen all these guys play? Drafts are always a crap shoot obviously….and in the past I wished we drafted certain players based solely on what I saw watching them play. This year, I couldn’t tell you anything about these guys,other than some stiffs I saw that I definitely DON’T want play in the tourney.
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Fair question, and it goes both ways. It is true that with International players and Gleague players, we don't see them as much as college players. But those who discount them are in the same boat. (at least the international players.

We have to rely on video. And even though a lot of videos are mostly highlights, they still show the potential based on size, quickness, shooting, defensive instincts, handles, etc. None of them are finished products so even the "experts" that are paid by teams make mistakes. They never know for sure who will improve the most. They are just making educated guesses.
 
B-Roy said:
This is a forum with people giving their opinions and having discussions. No I have not watched every game these guys played, nor should I have to since I'm not the one making the decisions. Don't get too bent out of shape.
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Wow. I simply asked if you’ve seen all these guys play that you ranked. You feel my post reflected that I was “bent out of shape”?
 
B-Roy said:
This is a forum with people giving their opinions and having discussions. No I have not watched every game these guys played, nor should I have to since I'm not the one making the decisions. Don't get too bent out of shape.
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You actually got somebody to LIKE your reply to me? I was just asking if you’d seen these guys because I hadn’t.
 
Givony on Lowe's podcast just said some scouts see Risacher having Jaden McDaniels type upside on defense.

Even with his dropoff on his shot to close the season, his talent and two way potential is tantalizing.

Like a better defending Trey Murphy..... Tempting enough for me to see if we could move up for this guy.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Fair question, and it goes both ways. It is true that with International players and Gleague players, we don't see them as much as college players. But those who discount them are in the same boat. (at least the international players.

We have to rely on video. And even though a lot of videos are mostly highlights, they still show the potential based on size, quickness, shooting, defensive instincts, handles, etc. None of them are finished products so even the "experts" that are paid by teams make mistakes. They never know for sure who will improve the most. They are just making educated guesses.
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The definition of crapshoot huh? HA!
 
I love how Sheppard can play off the ball and also create any shot he wants. Possibly the best shooter coming out in a few years. Tenacious D too. Just watch the offs and see that shooting is #1 priority.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
Fair question, and it goes both ways. It is true that with International players and Gleague players, we don't see them as much as college players. But those who discount them are in the same boat. (at least the international players.

We have to rely on video. And even though a lot of videos are mostly highlights, they still show the potential based on size, quickness, shooting, defensive instincts, handles, etc. None of them are finished products so even the "experts" that are paid by teams make mistakes. They never know for sure who will improve the most. They are just making educated guesses.
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Totally agree with you on highlight packages. All these “Scoot is a bust” people obviously don’t watch my Scoot highlight packs that look like he’s heading straight to the HOF!
 
Predator said:
Castle, Holland, Sheppard, Rissacher, and Williams.
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Buzelis, Rissacher, Knecht, Williams, Castle, Holland. I’d be ok with any of these guys. I just can’t stand another year of tanking. I wish there was a way for the NBA to penalize teams for doing it.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Buzelis, Rissacher, Knecht, Williams, Castle, Holland. I’d be ok with any of these guys. I just can’t stand another year of tanking. I wish there was a way for the NBA to penalize teams for doing it.
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It's not tanking if you're not good. None of these players make us a play-in team next season. We need one more year of being bad and hopefully we can ascend from there.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Buzelis, Rissacher, Knecht, Williams, Castle, Holland. I’d be ok with any of these guys. I just can’t stand another year of tanking. I wish there was a way for the NBA to penalize teams for doing it.
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I've always said keep the lotto for the top four picks but reverse the odds. The three teams finishing with the best records missing the playoffs get the best odds followed by the fourth and so on. The team with the worst record in the league then likely gets the fifth pick. I think most teams would then try to win every game that they could because it would give them a better chance at landing one of the top four picks.
 
THE HCP said:
Wow. I simply asked if you’ve seen all these guys play that you ranked. You feel my post reflected that I was “bent out of shape”?
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If that’s all you meant I apologize. But tone doesn’t come off very well through text.
 
illmatic99 said:
Givony on Lowe's podcast just said some scouts see Risacher having Jaden McDaniels type upside on defense.

Even with his dropoff on his shot to close the season, his talent and two way potential is tantalizing.

Like a better defending Trey Murphy..... Tempting enough for me to see if we could move up for this guy.
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He’s the guy that I could see moving up for.
 
beast crnjo said:
Reed looks like a good prospect. But it would be our 4th iteration of trying a small backcourt if we paired him with Scoot. Dame/CJ Dame/Simons Scoot/Simons Scoot/Reed...
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I don't think that a Scoot/Sheppard back court is what we'd be banking on, if we drafted Sheppard. I think we'd be hoping that Sharpe would be the 2, and that Scoot and/or Sheppard would turn out to be a perennial all-star type of guy. We currently have none of those on our roster, and as much as I like Scoot there's no guarantees there. If both of them turn out to be awesome, either they can start together or you move one for value elsewhere.

If there is a prospect on par with Sheppard but who's a bigger body, then I'd probably prefer that, but with Sheppard being such an anomaly in advanced stats and the lack of certainty with other prospects, he's currently a guy I'm most interested in if he's there at 7 in spite of the lack of fit.
 
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