WOJ: Dame wants the super max extension

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John Law said:
Lillard will never win a championship in Portland as long as he is on a max contract...that you can book.

Interesting that you brought up Melo, the classic example of a guy taking all of his team's free agent money and then leaving, never having led a contender. That will be Lillard's legacy as well, unless he takes a pay cut.
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He has said he's willing to take a pay cut to get the right player here. But not just to save the Vulcans some cash.
 
TBpup said:
Ahh, showing off the intelligence again? Nicely done. I can completely love Dame and still have an issue with something. Feel free to engage in an intellectual response....or not.
I'll help with the likely inevitable response. "Ignore"
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there’s literally ZERO point in engaging in any real conversation with you as every single one of your posts have the same slant, with different wording. Been posting the same shit for years. We get it, you don’t like the best player on the team (who you claim to love LOL) but the slapdick rookies at the end of the bench, yeah those guys should start!

Here’s the reality: this poverty franchise has never and will probably never have another player with Dames ability, loyalty, and durability. I appreciate it. You don’t.
 
Scalma said:
there’s literally ZERO point in engaging in any real conversation with you as every single one of your posts have the same slant, with different wording. Been posting the same shit for years. We get it, you don’t like the best players on the team (who you claim to love LOL) but the slapdick rookies at the end of the bench, yeah those guys should start!
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There are a lot of us that would rather engage in conversation with @TBpup than you.
 
Scalma said:
there’s literally ZERO point in engaging in any real conversation with you as every single one of your posts have the same slant, with different wording. Been posting the same shit for years. We get it, you don’t like the best players on the team (who you claim to love LOL) but the slapdick rookies at the end of the bench, yeah those guys should start!
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Wtf is a “slapdick”?
 
Phatguysrule said:
He has said he's willing to take a pay cut to get the right player here. But not just to save the Vulcans some cash.
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Do you have a link to that?

I wish he'd do that, but I guess this is the price for loyalty.
 
noknobs said:
Do you have a link to that?

I wish he'd do that, but I guess this is the price for loyalty.
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he took a pay-cut in his 2nd contract after his 4 year rookie scale. he was eligible for the 30% max instead of the standard 25% max. So he split the difference and signed for 27.5% so Olshey could maneuver. Olshey's maneuver was to give Evan Turner 70M and Meyers Leonard 41M
 
The irony that Olsheys views lined up with the same people that wanted him fired and also Dame traded

 
noknobs said:
Do you have a link to that?

I wish he'd do that, but I guess this is the price for loyalty.
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It was in a video interview he did in the last 6 months or so... I don't remember which one...
 
Blazinaway said:
obscene dollars at that age IMO, why no discount like Harden? How bad does he want to win?
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harden took a 1 + 1 deal to bring in PJ Tucker. There was a concrete reason for Harden to take a discount. Not really the same scenario here because Dame was not presented with an option to take a discount to bring in another player.

obscene numbers yes, but this will all get normalized in a few summers. 50-60 mil deals will become the norm.
 
TBpup said:
Love Dame, but there is no way he is worth that at age 35/36. I know, loyalty, leadership, and all that, but at some point, for it to be worth it, doesn't that need to translate into post-season success? Likely, I'll take a bashing for this, but I've just seen too many franchises hang on to their players and the contracts end up hamstringing the franchise. I suppose it is one thing if that player has brought relevance and titles, but that isn't close to being the case here.
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what was the alternative? are we mentally ready to trade dame? don't think anyone in the org has the stomach for that.
 
illmatic99 said:
what was the alternative? are we mentally ready to trade dame? don't think anyone in the org has the stomach for that.
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Sounds like it's time for a new org.

I love Dame, but we're doomed to mediocrity or worse at least through Dame's new deal with the way things are.
 
This is the right thing for the team and this is the right thing for Dame. If we believe that Dame is taking care of himself, he's not a big guy and his best skill is shooting so he should hold up at a high level through this contract. No he likely won't be an all nba team selection at 36 years old. So Dame gets paid and the team shows that when they have a superstar (for the first time) that wants to stay with the team for his whole career that they show their loyalty back.

Dame is worth far more than this money. He disproportionately brings in far more money and attention than anyone else on this team and is only restrained to making this much by the max salary system and salary cap rules. He's worth far more than 25 times the amount that Didi is worth to the team. As a team we haven't played the game other teams have of pushing our roster salary far past the tax through bird rights and other exceptions that don't trigger the hard cap.

So, if you think that 35% of the cap is 35% of what we pay our entire roster, then yeah Dame is hamstringing our team. If our team makes a financial commitment to press the team salary far beyond the tax then 35% of the cap isn't going to hurt our ability to have a lot of talent around him. That commitment isn't Dame's concern, he should assume that if ownership would commit this to him, they will also commit to pushing the team salary around him to a level where his salary won't be crippling. 43M is what 35% of the cap is today and that would be 23% of the Clippers' roster salary today. I think Dame is worth more than 23% of the team salary.
 
blazerkor said:
This is the right thing for the team and this is the right thing for Dame. If we believe that Dame is taking care of himself, he's not a big guy and his best skill is shooting so he should hold up at a high level through this contract. No he likely won't be an all nba team selection at 36 years old. So Dame gets paid and the team shows that when they have a superstar (for the first time) that wants to stay with the team for his whole career that they show their loyalty back.

Dame is worth far more than this money. He disproportionately brings in far more money and attention than anyone else on this team and is only restrained to making this much by the max salary system and salary cap rules. He's worth far more than 25 times the amount that Didi is worth to the team. As a team we haven't played the game other teams have of pushing our roster salary far past the tax through bird rights and other exceptions that don't trigger the hard cap.

So, if you think that 35% of the cap is 35% of what we pay our entire roster, then yeah Dame is hamstringing our team. If our team makes a financial commitment to press the team salary far beyond the tax then 35% of the cap isn't going to hurt our ability to have a lot of talent around him. That commitment isn't Dame's concern, he should assume that if ownership would commit this to him, they will also commit to pushing the team salary around him to a level where his salary won't be crippling. 43M is what 35% of the cap is today and that would be 23% of the Clippers' roster salary today. I think Dame is worth more than 23% of the team salary.
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Imagine wanting to trade dame today lmaaaaaaaaao.
 
Strenuus said:
Imagine wanting to trade dame today lmaaaaaaaaao.
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I think Dame has trade value today. I think teams constantly make decisions based on what a player can do for them right now and let the future of their contract play out later. If we put Dame on the market he would get big big offers.
 
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