WOJ: Dame wants the super max extension

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B-Roy said:
Lowe says Philly hasn't considered McCollum. Sources in Philly have echoed the same thing. Fischer has said the same thing.

I would be GROSSLY surprised if CJ is moved for Simmons.
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Yup. Any chance of it includes us forking over Nas and tons of draft capital most likely.
 
B-Roy said:
Lowe:

"I think Olshey getting fired actually helps Dame's willingness to stay."

Basically summarizing my thoughts.
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his fake trades were ridiculous. he keeps trying to trade nance instead of roco (although he did destroy Roco quite a bit), and i turned it off when he started talking about potential dame trades. i feel like Zach is a bit disengaged with Portland at the moment.
 
illmatic99 said:
his fake trades were ridiculous. he keeps trying to trade nance instead of roco (although he did destroy Roco quite a bit), and i turned it off when he started talking about potential dame trades. i feel like Zach is a bit disengaged with Portland at the moment.
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His reasoning is that RoCo doesn't have value. Unfortunately I agree with him.

He suggested these though:

Nurk for Oubre/Plumlee
Nurk for Oubre/Washington (We should take this if it's offered)

Charlotte does seem like a natural fit for a center though.

Nurk/RoCo for Gordon Hayward was also mentioned.
 
Honestly, reading this over, I would not be surprised if Olshey was trying to sell rebuild to the ownership. He gets a shitload of picks for Lillard and he keeps his job and gets the opportunity to rebuild the team again, in his vision. Looks like he lost that battle.
 
B-Roy said:
Who is this fool?

If the GM was anyone other than Morey, I think Simmons would be gone already. I think Morey would rather die on principal than take a less than ideal trade.
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WaPo writer, covers the Sixers & NBA.
 
B-Roy said:
There is an anti dame slant/tone to the piece but anyone who has followed the team for some time would take the information given and side with dame, that’s why I don’t really understand the aim. But it is interesting.
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maybe....but you may be over-crediting Olshey with rational objective action in the few days after being fired, for cause, and losing 12 million dollars.

Personally I think he's a vindictive piece of shit and it's likely he was trying to inflict as much damage as he could. So, what better way than potentially poisoning the well for the next GM and making the search harder, all while tarnishing the franchise player and leaving headaches for the owners

B-Roy said:
does anyone think dame wanting the Supermax extension is wrong?
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I always wished I was working for more money so no. Portland giving it to him is another matter
 
wizenheimer said:
maybe....but you may be over-crediting Olshey with rational objective action in the few days after being fired, for cause, and losing 12 million dollars.

Personally I think he's a vindictive piece of shit and it's likely he was trying to inflict as much damage as he could. So, what better way than potentially poisoning the well for the next GM and making the search harder, all while tarnishing the franchise player and leaving headaches for the owners
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I'm confused how this tarnishes Lillard reputation besides trying to put some of the blame of the coaching search and non-trades on Dame. What, Dame wants more money? Is that bad?
 
wizenheimer said:
maybe....but you may be over-crediting Olshey with rational objective action in the few days after being fired, for cause, and losing 12 million dollars.

Personally I think he's a vindictive piece of shit and it's likely he was trying to inflict as much damage as he could. So, what better way than potentially poisoning the well for the next GM and making the search harder, all while tarnishing the franchise player and leaving headaches for the owners



I always wished I was working for more money so no. Portland giving it to him is another matter
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if it was truly 12 million that they saved in this ordeal, that is a drop in the bucket for jody. i don't think this inevitable PR storm is worth it. They could have very easily and quietly fired him and paid his $ and avoided this nonsense.

Also sidebar, is "sources" a way to circumvent NDAs now?
 
B-Roy said:
I'm confused how this tarnishes Lillard reputation besides trying to put some of the blame of the coaching search and non-trades on Dame. What, Dame wants more money? Is that bad?
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it makes it look like all of Dame's talk about wanting a contender is Portland is just noise if his real priority is getting that supermax extension

I mean, if you don't think the juxtaposition of how Dame has played this season (following his summer drama) vs his 'focus' on getting that supermax is a bad look....
 
wizenheimer said:
it makes it look like all of Dame's talk about wanting a contender is Portland is just noise if his real priority is getting that supermax extension
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That's not what I got out of it.
 
B-Roy said:
Honestly, reading this over, I would not be surprised if Olshey was trying to sell rebuild to the ownership. He gets a shitload of picks for Lillard and he keeps his job and gets the opportunity to rebuild the team again, in his vision. Looks like he lost that battle.
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...I was having a similar thought earlier thinking -- what if all that Dame drama from this summer was initiated by Olshey to try and shift the narrative away from his desire to rebuild around CJ? :dunno:
 
Haakzilla said:
...I was having a similar thought earlier thinking -- what if all that Dame drama from this summer was initiated by Olshey to try and shift the narrative away from his desire to rebuild around CJ? :dunno:
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Soooooo many people talked about this during the summer. Many people here speculated as such.

I dunno if "building around CJ" was the end result. He could have also wanted to get what he could for CJ, but knowing Neil I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
 
Disappointed in Dame. With all the money he has made, i question whether he wants to win.
What teams have won with a supermax contract on the books?

Bucks with giannis, who JUST signed it so the cap ramifications have yet to set in on them.

Curry, but they won before he signed. Effects also yet to be felt.

Harden is on one and hasn't won anywhere and has demanded trades.

Westbrick…. Lol.

John Wall hasnt done anything in the playoffs.

Now i get. The point of the supermax is to help small market teams retain thier stars, but what good is that if they cant put a winning team around them?
Id rather see the Players association( listening cj?) advocate for a lower cap on top salaries, forcing teams to funnel the money a bit further down the roster.

im no cba guy but i know its extremely complex, but, im not sure the supermax is working optimally.
 
B-Roy said:
Honestly, reading this over, I would not be surprised if Olshey was trying to sell rebuild to the ownership. He gets a shitload of picks for Lillard and he keeps his job and gets the opportunity to rebuild the team again, in his vision. Looks like he lost that battle.
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he had full autonomy to do as he wished. are you saying the team he built from 2013-21 was not in his vision?
 
illmatic99 said:
he had full autonomy to do as he wished. are you saying the team he built from 2013-21 was not in his vision?
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No, I'm saying that NOW, "trade Dame" and build again was the direction he wanted to go. Ownership said no, for whatever reason, whether it was Lillard, or fan pressure that supported Lillard over Olshey. Whatever the reason, it sounds like Neil wanted to trade Dame, and he lost that battle.
 
So much coping by Lillard fan boys going on here.

This demand is preposterous and it completely debunks the notion that Lillard has ever cared about winning. You know what winning players do? They sacrifice a few million dollars so the GM can actually build a team around them.

They don’t demand being paid MORE THAN ANY PLAYER EVER at the end of their career while expecting praised for being “loyal” and “passionate” about winning.

This article shows he’s not loyal. He straight up tried to get CJ traded while lying to CJ’s face. It also shows he is not passionate, about anything except money.

you chumps wanna shoot the messenger because you can’t come to grips with the fact Lillard is a fraud who took hundreds of millions of dollars from your city, and he’s about to bounce out the door just like Aldridge, leaving you with nothing except some of his shitty rap CDs and ugly ass shoes you paid $200 for.

COPE!
 
CJ Mcollum 3 said:
you chumps wanna shoot the messenger because you can’t come to grips with the fact Lillard is a fraud who took hundreds of millions of dollars from your city, and he’s about to bounce out the door just like Aldridge.
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Ok Neil. If he takes all that money, he won't be able the "bounce" out the door because like you told Woj, it will be an albatross at that point.
 
B-Roy said:
Ok Neil. If he takes all that money, he won't be able the "bounce" out the door because like you told Woj, it will be an albatross at that point.
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He’s not getting that money. No team is paying a chronically injured egomaniac with more rap albums that second round playoff appearances that much money. Like I know you guys carry his jock strap on this site, but you really need a reality check if you think Lillard should make more than Kobe and MJ combined.

he’s demanding more than he knows the team will give him. It’s a win win. He either gets to go play movie star in LA or he gets the biggest contract in history from a chump organization and goes out as a “hero” who couldn’t seem to make it past round 2 of the playoffs

dude is a snake who never truly cared about winning. He wasn’t willing to sacrifice a DIME to get better talent around him, while throwing shade at the organization, implying it’s their fault he can’t win.

clown!
 
CJ Mcollum 3 said:
He’s not getting that money. No team is paying a chronically injured egomaniac with more rap albums that second round playoff appearances that much money.

he’s demanding more than he knows the team will give him. It’s a win win. He either gets to go play movie star in LA or he gets the biggest contract in history from a chump organization and goes out as a “hero” who couldn’t seem to make it past round 2 of the playoffs
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It's a weird thing to say when he already made it past round 2.
 
B-Roy said:
It's a weird thing to say when he already made it past round 2.
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talk about low expectations. He got carried by CJ ONE time past the second round. The entire rest of his career he’s been an underachiever who can get really hot but can’t win a 7 game playoff series to save his life.

you guys idolize a total fraud. We wasted a decade on a flashy player who never gave us any chance of winning a championship because his selfishness and obsession with money made it fiscally impossible to bring any talent in around him.

dame DOLLA indeed!
 
B-Roy said:
Lowe says Philly hasn't considered McCollum. Sources in Philly have echoed the same thing. Fischer has said the same thing.

I would be GROSSLY surprised if CJ is moved for Simmons.
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While I want Simmons, I would have no problem paying for far less to get Siakam. Yes, I know that would have to be a threeway deal. Perhaps Portland can negotiate a threeway deal to get Simmons to Portland and send CJ somewhere else.
 
Cugel said:
Welcome to the forum Neil
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It’s funny how you don’t even know if this info came from Neil, you are just so intent on carrying Dame’s jock strap that you’re desperately trying to shoot the messenger, even when you don’t know who the messenger is!

Always knew Lillard cultists would be the downfall of the Portland Trailblazers. I expect the team to be sold within 2 years at this rate.
 
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