Rumor Woj says the Blazers are one of the teams most interested in a wing upgrade at the deadline

[e_blazer]

Maybe stop trading away picks and drafting PF/C and we could have a wing

Maybe read the first line of Woj's post?

"There are far more teams chasing wing players -- shooting guard/small forwards -- than quality talent available at those positions. Drafts have been lean on those spots in recent years, and they're in great demand now."

 

[Denny Crane]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hoodro01.html

6'8", started 11 out of 31 games.

 

[illmatic99]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hoodro01.html

6'8", started 11 out of 31 games.

I thought he'd break out, but he's been hampered by injuries.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

If Moe can consistently give us 10/6 with decent defense and OK percentages, we'd not even be looking. He had his chance. Disappointing.

We would still be looking. We wanted Carmelo or Paul George (or insert any all-star SF here) and that was after his pretty decent year. We wouldn't stop looking. But he could be a valuable piece if he got his head on straight. But also probably one of the few contracts that teams don't puke at so it goes both ways.

 

[JDC]

Detroit’s in the market for a wing? Tobias Harris has been really good this year so that’s surprising. Send him our way if you don’t think he’s good enough god damn

Harris plays nearly all of his minutes at the 4.

Stanley Johnson and Reggie Bullock are the reasons why they're looking to upgrade at that spot.

 

[blue9]

There are far more teams chasing wing players -- shooting guard/small forwards -- than quality talent available at those positions. Drafts have been lean on those spots in recent years, and they're in great demand now.

 

[Scalma]

Harkless wouldn't have even played had Dame been healthy. We're lucky he's had these good performances. Some team will trade for him. Like I've been saying for awhile now...a deal centered around Harkless and Mirotic makes too much sense, for both sides.

Chicago needs a small forward, preferably a young one. They're tanking. They have cap space.

Portland needs another scorer/shooter. Mirotic could start or come off the bench. He fits next to all our bigs. Offensively his profile isn't much different than Melos. He's not just a shooter. We wouldn't be locked in contractually either. Team option after this season so it could just be a salary dump.

A straight up deal probably won't happen, as Mirotic is still the better player, but Chicago doesn't exactly have all the leverage either. Teams know he wants out.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Harkless wouldn't have even played had Dame been healthy. We're lucky he's had these good performances. Some team will trade for him. Like I've been saying for awhile now...a deal centered around Harkless and Mirotic makes too much sense, for both sides.

Chicago needs a small forward, preferably a young one. They're tanking. They have cap space.

Portland needs another scorer/shooter. Mirotic could start or come off the bench. He fits next to all our bigs. Offensively his profile isn't much different than Melos. He's not just a shooter. We wouldn't be locked in contractually either. Team option after this season so it could just be a salary dump.

A straight up deal probably won't happen, as Mirotic is still the better player, but Chicago doesn't exactly have all the leverage either. Teams know he wants out.

Just sucks that we still have to wait a week for it to even be possible.

 

[Scalma]

Just sucks that we still have to wait a week for it to even be possible.

Well once Dame is back Harkless can be iced again.

 

[stampedehero]

I think Moe is showcasing himself - playing well in hope it will increase his trade value. If he doesn't get traded by the deadline, look for the poutfest to resume.

BNM

Interesting perspective. A self centered egotist that plays a role then becomes his true self when the profitable opportunity evolves.

 

[stampedehero]

Can't we just stretch CJ into a small forward?

That is fabulous. Do it the English way. Stick a red hot poker up his ass (Tudors-Henry the 8th episodes).

 

[Scalma]

• Teams are targeting the availability of Brooklyn's DeMarre Carroll, Utah's Alec Burks, Orlando's Evan Fournier and Atlanta's Kent Bazemore, among others.
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  From the Woj article. I'd be interested in any of them, depending on the price, but I think I'd rather take a chance on a lesser established player, like Malik Beasley.

 

[Scalma]

Juan Hernangomez is another name. He's been a healthy inactive for Denver. I like his game and it'd be an Olshey type move.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

• Teams are targeting the availability of Brooklyn's DeMarre Carroll, Utah's Alec Burks, Orlando's Evan Fournier and Atlanta's Kent Bazemore, among others.
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  From the Woj article. I'd be interested in any of them, depending on the price, but I think I'd rather take a chance on a lesser established player, like Malik Beasley.

It would be pretty amazing if Brooklyn got a 1st rounder for Carroll after being given two just to take him on! 3 First rounders to a half year of overpaid (but not so much now that performing again) guy is amazing.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Maybe read the first line of Woj's post?

"There are far more teams chasing wing players -- shooting guard/small forwards -- than quality talent available at those positions. Drafts have been lean on those spots in recent years, and they're in great demand now."

Not sure what your point is?

We drafted two bigs last year. Could have taken a flier instead of Swanigan?

Could have hypothetically traded CJ to move up and grab someone, tgen took a SG at 10 instead of a PF/C?

 

[BrunoSOC]

Harkless wouldn't have even played had Dame been healthy. We're lucky he's had these good performances. Some team will trade for him. Like I've been saying for awhile now...a deal centered around Harkless and Mirotic makes too much sense, for both sides.

Chicago needs a small forward, preferably a young one. They're tanking. They have cap space.

Portland needs another scorer/shooter. Mirotic could start or come off the bench. He fits next to all our bigs. Offensively his profile isn't much different than Melos. He's not just a shooter. We wouldn't be locked in contractually either. Team option after this season so it could just be a salary dump.

A straight up deal probably won't happen, as Mirotic is still the better player, but Chicago doesn't exactly have all the leverage either. Teams know he wants out.

Best trade for us.

 

[jlprk]

What do you think if Courtney Lee (6'5")? He's a great shooter (.422 3FG%, .961 FT%). I'm not sure if I'd call him a great dribbler, but he's good enough to create his own shot (only assisted on .441 of his 2FGs) without turning the ball over (10.2 TOV% is good for a wing and much better than Turner's 15.7 TOV%).

Well, I read about him.

Top shooting % at FT and 2-pointers, good for a forward at 3s. He has always played guard. He's been the starter on all 7 of his teams, for most games. His age is 32.

He's a better dribbler than, say, Crabbe, or any of our forwards except Turner. Good dribbler with moves on video I saw, not of course in the class of our guards.

He's playing more aggressively this year, the reason being Carmelo leaving, according to the RealGM Knicks board. ("He's a Rick Fox.")

Less than 2 years ago, Memphis traded him to Charlotte for 4 2nd-round picks. The Knicks then stole him by doubling his pay to $12M per year.

Remember that a Knick dollar is a Blazer peso. His stats jumped up when he joined them a year ago.

injury report
http://prosportstransactions.com/basketball/Search/SearchResults.php?Player=courtney lee&Team=&BeginDate=&EndDate=&ILChkBx=yes&NBADLChkBx=yes&InjuriesChkBx=yes&PersonalChkBx=yes&DisciplinaryChkBx=yes&LegalChkBx=yes&Submit=Search&start=25

He would improve our dribbling at forward, for drives to the basket. His pay is higher than what I was thinking, and he's older. I'm hoping to cut payroll. If we got back a 1st round pick...it would be an expensive price for a pick...probably not. Also, you want to give Napier and Davis, my 2 favorite players.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Well, I read about him.

Top shooting % at FT and 2-pointers, good for a forward at 3s. He has always played guard. He's been the starter on all 7 of his teams, for most games. His age is 32.

He's a better dribbler than, say, Crabbe, or any of our forwards except Turner. Good dribbler with moves on video I saw, not of course in the class of our guards.

He's playing more aggressively this year, the reason being Carmelo leaving, according to the RealGM Knicks board. ("He's a Rick Fox.")

Less than 2 years ago, Memphis traded him to Charlotte for 4 2nd-round picks. The Knicks then stole him by doubling his pay to $12M per year.

Remember that a Knick dollar is a Blazer peso. His stats jumped up when he joined them a year ago.

injury report
http://prosportstransactions.com/basketball/Search/SearchResults.php?Player=courtney lee&Team=&BeginDate=&EndDate=&ILChkBx=yes&NBADLChkBx=yes&InjuriesChkBx=yes&PersonalChkBx=yes&DisciplinaryChkBx=yes&LegalChkBx=yes&Submit=Search&start=25

He would improve our dribbling at forward, for drives to the basket. His pay is higher than what I was thinking, and he's older. I'm hoping to cut payroll. If we got back a 1st round pick...it would be an expensive price for a pick...probably not. Also, you want to give Napier and Davis, my 2 favorite players.

I also like Napier and Davis, but they both have positive trade value (you need to give something of value to get something of value - usually) and both will be FAs this summer. We may not be able to bring them back anyway. In which case it's better to get something for them than to let them walk for nothing.

BNM

 

[e_blazer]

Not sure what your point is?

We drafted two bigs last year. Could have taken a flier instead of Swanigan?

Could have hypothetically traded CJ to move up and grab someone, tgen took a SG at 10 instead of a PF/C?

My only point is that there wasn’t a lot of talent at the SF spot in last year’s draft. Only four guys at that position went in the first round. Tatum and Josh Jackson were out of reach at 3 and 4. Neither of those guys is showing anything like enough impact to be worth parting with CJ. Justin Jackson and Anunoby look like a whole lot of meh, but still went at 15 and 23. They weren’t good enough to take at Collins’s spot, but still went before Swanigan because of the scarcity of guys at that position.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I would like to see us try to pick up a guy like Terrence Ross, he has 3 point ability (although is struggling this year) and is VERY athletic.

 

[Natebishop3]

There are so few decent wings in the league right now.

 

[Boob-No-More]

There are so few decent wings in the league right now.

Which is so bizarre considering it used to be the deepest, and easiest to fill, position in the league.

BNM

 

[truebluefan]

Harkless wouldn't have even played had Dame been healthy. We're lucky he's had these good performances. Some team will trade for him. Like I've been saying for awhile now...a deal centered around Harkless and Mirotic makes too much sense, for both sides.

Chicago needs a small forward, preferably a young one. They're tanking. They have cap space.

Portland needs another scorer/shooter. Mirotic could start or come off the bench. He fits next to all our bigs. Offensively his profile isn't much different than Melos. He's not just a shooter. We wouldn't be locked in contractually either. Team option after this season so it could just be a salary dump.

A straight up deal probably won't happen, as Mirotic is still the better player, but Chicago doesn't exactly have all the leverage either. Teams know he wants out.

I agree. IMO the Bulls will trade Nikola one way or the other. That has been their problem through the last 5 years or so. They let people expire or walk with no asset in return. We are in rebuild. Nikola is much improved, finally, but he sill not be a bull for much longer. I predict he will be traded in a week or so, that way Bulls could see what interest Lopez can draw.

As for leverage for the Bulls? lol you are right. Bulls usually do not have leverage on much of anything.

Blazers could use his scoring and rebounding. You need cap relief as well.

Utah and Detroit has interest as well.

 

[Scalma]

I agree. IMO the Bulls will trade Nikola one way or the other. That has been their problem through the last 5 years or so. They let people expire or walk with no asset in return. We are in rebuild. Nikola is much improved, finally, but he sill not be a bull for much longer. I predict he will be traded in a week or so, that way Bulls could see what interest Lopez can draw.

As for leverage for the Bulls? lol you are right. Bulls usually do not have leverage on much of anything.

Blazers could use his scoring and rebounding. You need cap relief as well.

Utah and Detroit has interest as well.

Since you’re here and know the team better than we do, what’s the feeling around there, what does Chicago need? Are fans interested in Harkless lol

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Apparently, the Bulls want a 1st rounder + expiring contracts for Mirotic. That certainly won't happen, so it'll be interesting to see what they'll actually take.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

lockedonjazz talks Mirotic - says he's probably just an average (35%) 3 point shooting and it's likely that his current tear is an aberration.

https://www.lockedonjazz.net/

 

[truebluefan]

Yes fans like Harkless. We need a wing and would want a pick as well. The younger the player the better. We could use a back up pg as well. Rumor has it Grant is included in a trade to Detroit with Mirotic for Johnon, Jon Leuer and a lottery protected first. So maybe they want to move Grant at deadline? Cameron Payne will not be the ideal back up pg. Bulls would not want long term players, however, if Blazers insist on that picks would have to come back to Chicago.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I agree. IMO the Bulls will trade Nikola one way or the other. That has been their problem through the last 5 years or so. They let people expire or walk with no asset in return. We are in rebuild. Nikola is much improved, finally, but he sill not be a bull for much longer. I predict he will be traded in a week or so, that way Bulls could see what interest Lopez can draw.

As for leverage for the Bulls? lol you are right. Bulls usually do not have leverage on much of anything.

Blazers could use his scoring and rebounding. You need cap relief as well.

Utah and Detroit has interest as well.

They can't trade him until January 15th, but that still gives them a 3 and a half week window before the trade deadline on February 8.

Yes, we need to shed just under 3 million to get under the luxury tax threshold. Would the Bulls be willing to take back $15.5 million in salary for Mirotic's $12.5 million. They are way under the cap, but I'm sure they'd like to preserve as much space as possible to go after free agents next summer. We have Ed Davis, who is an expiring contract at about $6.35 million, plus several other smaller non-guaranteed contracts that the Bulls could rescind, if they wished (Noah Vonleh, Shabazz Napier, etc.).

I'm not sure we could come up with a package that would appeal to the Bulls, unless we sweetened it with a 1st round pick, and I'm not sure Portland would be willing to do that.

BNM

 

[truebluefan]

Apparently, the Bulls want a 1st rounder + expiring contracts for Mirotic. That certainly won't happen, so it'll be interesting to see what they'll actually take.

agreed. One can always want. The difference this time is Mirotic will be traded. Portis is playing almost as well as Nikola. And he is 3 or 4 year younger.

 

[truebluefan]

They can't trade him until January 15th, but that still gives them a 3 and a half week window before the trade deadline on February 8.

Yes, we need to shed just under 3 million to get under the luxury tax threshold. Would the Bulls be willing to take back $15.5 million in salary for Mirotic's $12.5 million. They are way under the cap, but I'm sure they'd like to preserve as much space as possible to go after free agents next summer. We have Ed Davis, who is an expiring contract at about $6.35 million, plus several other smaller non-guaranteed contracts that the Bulls could rescind, if they wished (Noah Vonleh, Shabazz Napier, etc.).

I'm not sure we could come up with a package that would appeal to the Bulls, unless we sweetened it with a 1st round pick, and I'm not sure Portland would be willing to do that.

BNM

yes Bulls would take back short term money as well. We have space to make such a trade.

You would make good trade partners. The sticking point is the #1 pick and the fact that Bulls have interest from two other teams.

Yes technically teams have until Feb 8 to trade, but Nikola can be traded on or after the 15th of this month.