Working Out with Gomes, Williams, Maxiell

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">GREENBURGH, NY, May 25, 2005 -- Ryan Gomes was anything but a superstar coming out of high school. ?It?s pretty much the same deal right now,? the 6-8 power forward from Providence says, relaxing after his workout for Knick brass at the team?s Madison Square Garden Training Center. ?Some people get the hype, others don?t. But it doesn?t mean anything. I look at these workouts as a job interview. I have a chance to impress all over again.?

Gomes sees the recent NBA successes of Big East giants Ben Gordon and Emeka Okafor as a more-than-promising omen. ?They?re great players -- so I can?t say that I am surprised. In this conference it?s always a war, we?re playing at the highest level night after night. So Big East players are better prepared.? Still, the biggest difference between college ball and the pros? ?The NBA has more games and a far longer season,? says Gomes. ?So, as far as I?m concerned, it?s all about conditioning, man.?

And about defense, according to Cincinnati?s certified bruiser Jason Maxiell. ?I could be another Danny Fortson or Malik Rose in this league,? the bulky 6-8 power source avers. ?Give me the dirty work, I?m man enough to handle it. In fact, I just love to stop people on the basketball floor. I love being seen as a role-playing rebounder and a scary shot-blocker.?</div>
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[bbwSwish]

I really like Ryan Gomes and if the Knicks could land him in the late first round or early second round. He is a good player and would be a nice fit for the Knicks since Kurt Thomas and Jerome Williams are both aging.

I also like Jawad Williams. He would be a nice second round pick and could be a good backup G/F behind Trevor Ariza and Jamal Crawford.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">I really like Ryan Gomes and if the Knicks could land him in the late first round or early second round. He is a good player and would be a nice fit for the Knicks since Kurt Thomas and Jerome Williams are both aging.</div>
How would Ryan Gomes be a good fit for the Knicks? He?s an undersized power forward and the Knicks already have 5 players at that position. At 6?8, Gomes will be incapable of playing center in the NBA, and we don?t need another undersized power forward added to the roster.

 

[bbwSwish]

I'm not to familiar with the Knicks roster and I thought Gomes would be good since you don't have any young PF's.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not to familiar with the Knicks roster and I thought Gomes would be good since you don't have any young PF's.</div>
We have Mike Sweetney who hasn't turned 23 yet.

 

[bbwSwish]

Ooohhhh yeah. My bad I forgot all about Mike.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Again, you kids are crazy with your ideas of positions. Chuck Hayes an undersized Power Forward? Sean May a Center? I have read some of the worst misconceptions I've read in a long time in this thread. Just because a player plays a certain position in the NCAA, it doesn't mean that will be his position in the NBA. In college, Elton Brand and Zach Randolph were Centers, Jason Richardson was a Small Forward, Shane Battier was a Power Forward, and Gilbert Arenas was a Shooting Guard. There are many more players just like them who played on position in college and then another in the pro's.

Still, I don't think that Gomes, <u>the Small Forward</u>, will be a good pick for the Knicks anyway at #30, and I can't see him falling to #54. There will be much better prospects out there that will better suit the Knicks, like Rudy Fernandez or Andray Blatche.

 

[Mr. J]

You'll have to excuse me, Voodoo Child. I said that because of his NCAA position. I didn't realize he was capable of playing small forward as well as power forward. Regardless of whether he can play small forward or power forward, I still don't feel Gomes would be the best fit for the Knicks.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Again, you kids are crazy with your ideas of positions. Chuck Hayes an undersized Power Forward? Sean May a Center? I have read some of the worst misconceptions I've read in a long time in this thread. Just because a player plays a certain position in the NCAA, it doesn't mean that will be his position in the NBA. In college, Elton Brand and Zach Randolph were Centers, Jason Richardson was a Small Forward, Shane Battier was a Power Forward, and Gilbert Arenas was a Shooting Guard. There are many more players just like them who played on position in college and then another in the pro's.</div>

Ah, give us a break. Most scouting reports on Hayes says he's not quick enough to play small forward and that's where alot of my info comes from. But you say you've seen him play with your own two eyes and that he is capable of playing small forward so I'll take your word for it. Besides I've heard of stranger things than 6'6" powerforwards(ever heard of Charles Barkley?).

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">You'll have to excuse me, Voodoo Child. I said that because of his NCAA position. I didn't realize he was capable of playing small forward as well as power forward. Regardless of whether he can play small forward or power forward, I still don't feel Gomes would be the best fit for the Knicks.</div>

Yup. He is definetely more than capable of playing small forward. You really wouldnt want him?? Why not?? TT's contract is expiring this season so we'll have to fill up the small forward spot. I'd love to have Gomes. He's strong enough to take alot of small forwards in the low post and should be quick enough to take powerforwards off the dribble. Throw in his good midrange jumper and work ethic you have a steal in the second round. He sort of reminds me a little of Larry Johnson(the way he plays I mean). But I'm not sure about using the 30th pick to draft him and like Voodoo Child said there is almost no way he's dropping to our second round pick. Then again who are we planning on getting with our second first rounder?



Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Again, you kids are crazy with your ideas of positions. Chuck Hayes an undersized Power Forward? Sean May a Center? I have read some of the worst misconceptions I've read in a long time in this thread. Just because a player plays a certain position in the NCAA, it doesn't mean that will be his position in the NBA. In college, Elton Brand and Zach Randolph were Centers, Jason Richardson was a Small Forward, Shane Battier was a Power Forward, and Gilbert Arenas was a Shooting Guard. There are many more players just like them who played on position in college and then another in the pro's.</div>

Ah, give us a break. Most scouting reports on Hayes says he's not quick enough to play small forward and that's where alot of my info comes from. But you say you've seen him play with your own two eyes and that he is capable of playing small forward so I'll take your word for it. Besides I've heard of stranger things than 6'6" powerforwards(ever heard of Charles Barkley?).

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">You'll have to excuse me, Voodoo Child. I said that because of his NCAA position. I didn't realize he was capable of playing small forward as well as power forward. Regardless of whether he can play small forward or power forward, I still don't feel Gomes would be the best fit for the Knicks.</div>

Yup. He is definetely more than capable of playing small forward. You really wouldnt want him?? Why not?? TT's contract is expiring this season so we'll have to fill up the small forward spot. I'd love to have Gomes. He's strong enough to take alot of small forwards in the low post and should be quick enough to take powerforwards off the dribble. Throw in his good midrange jumper and work ethic you have a steal in the second round. He sort of reminds me a little of Larry Johnson(the way he plays I mean). But I'm not sure about using the 30th pick to draft him and like Voodoo Child said there is almost no way he's dropping to our second round pick. Then again who are we planning on getting with our second first rounder?



Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Yup. He is definetely more than capable of playing small forward. You really wouldnt want him?? Why not?? TT's contract is expiring this season so we'll have to fill up the small forward spot. I'd love to have Gomes. He's strong enough to take alot of small forwards in the low post and should be quick enough to take powerforwards off the dribble. Throw in his good midrange jumper and work ethic you have a steal in the second round. He sort of reminds me a little of Larry Johnson(the way he plays I mean). But I'm not sure about using the 30th pick to draft him and like Voodoo Child said there is almost no way he's dropping to our second round pick. Then again who are we planning on getting with our second first rounder?</div>
When I said the best fit for the Knicks, I feel that we can get someone else with our 30th pick than Ryan Gomes. I would rather get Turiaf, Blatche, Morrison, or Fernandez.