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Would you like Jrue to start the season as a Blazer?

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There seems to be a consensus that Jrue will bring in a haul right now. But I am guessing that there isn't a consensus on what we all consider a haul.

For example, the Chicago scenario seems fair if we get our pick back and they add another FRP along with Williams and filler. Is that a haul?
 
Last year there was a rebuild GM/President/Consultant available that had ties to the Blazers and Oregon available, if that was the route the Blazers wanted to go they should have reached out to Ainge. No idea if they did or didn't but Jody's pockets are deeper than the Jazz owners.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think it's more valuable to send him out now and essentially make it another aspect of the Lillard trade. I think with teams scrambling to answer the Bucks, the value might be higher now than it would be later, too.

The Blazers will find a veteran mentor for the young guards. It just won't be Jrue.
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It could be Lowry. It could be Batum. It could be a combination of Brogdon and maybe Horford.

There’s plenty of ‘mentors’ we can have on the team. No ‘mentor’ is going to get us a star level deal.
 
I would really like them to find a great deal soon and have all of this over with. That being said I can also see that maybe around the deadline there might be an offer that could be a better spot for both Jrue (who i also feel deserves some respect) and the Blazers.
 
I would like him to do some trick-or-treating on Halloween wearing a Dame mask.



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maxiep said:
That being said, Chauncey was a better version of Jrue Holliday. He's already on the payroll and has zero trade value. Why can't Chauncey be Scoot's mentor?
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Presumably he's got a lot on his plate, and the relationship between coach and player is different than between player and player. Further, if Scoot can be influenced positively by both, that would seem to be better than just one.

That's not reason enough to keep Holiday, but it's definitely a positive in my book.
 
Ed O said:
Presumably he's got a lot on his plate, and the relationship between coach and player is different than between player and player. Further, if Scoot can be influenced positively by both, that would seem to be better than just one.

That's not reason enough to keep Holiday, but it's definitely a positive in my book.
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Fair point.
 
maxiep said:
From a strategic standpoint, Jrue's value is at its maximum right now, before the reality of Dame in Milwaukee is set. Right now, it's theoretical and there's a bidding war for his services. Start the season, and someone may surprise, showing they upped their defense.

We need to trade Jrue by the weekend.
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For Dame I was willing to wait til deadline in no good offers were available.

For Jrue, he is just as in-demand as any player now, literally the best player no one ever thought would be available just became available. At least half the league crave him so an auction must end by Monday
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Zero interest. He is worth real trade assets and deserves to have a big role. Ant will likely get the bulk of the Blazers minutes/shots. I'd rather see what Scoot and Sharpe can do than a 33 year old Jrue.

If the Blazers need a few extra weeks to close a Jrue trade thats totally fine - there is no drama with bringing Jrue to camp. But the Blazers should work to get a deal done sooner than later.
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I don’t find value in bringing him to camp. Why risk any type of injury for one.
 
Trade Holiday to the Celtics:

Williams gets us a big-bodied PF/C
Pritchard brings us a back-up PG
And add an unrestricted number one pick and I see the above as a haul for Jrue.

If our young trio of Sharpe, Scoot and Ant play above expectations, we could make the playoffs. Team chemistry is 80% of a roster’s success and if Scoot takes off and plays mistake-free ball, we can win 45 games.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Trade Holiday to the Celtics:

Williams gets us a big-bodied PF/C
Pritchard brings us a back-up PG
And add an unrestricted number one pick and I see the above as a haul for Jrue.

If our young trio of Sharpe, Scoot and Ant play above expectations, we could make the playoffs. Team chemistry is 80% of a roster’s success and if Scoot takes off and plays mistake-free ball, we can win 45 games.
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Williams is a big-bodied PF/C who can't be trusted to stay healthy
Pritchard is a back-up PG who presumably wouldn't play if Scoot and Ant are both here and healthy
An unprotected first from Boston will likely never be in the top 20 between now and 2030

We can most certainly do better than that for Holiday.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Williams is a big-bodied PF/C who can't be trusted to stay healthy
Pritchard is a back-up PG who presumably wouldn't play if Scoot and Ant are both here and healthy
An unprotected first from Boston will likely never be in the top 20 between now and 2030

We can most certainly do better than that for Holiday.
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Fair enough - got some other ideas?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I've had a few in the Jrue trade ideas thread, including a variation on your Boston proposal. Chicago is currently my favorite
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I ask again: why does Chicago do that? It vaults them from first round exit in a sweep to... also first round exit, but maybe they win a couple.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I ask again: why does Chicago do that? It vaults them from first round exit in a sweep to... also first round exit, but maybe they win a couple.
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They thought they had something with the Levine, demar, ball trio, they just extended their center, so seemingly not ready to pull the plug.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I ask again: why does Chicago do that? It vaults them from first round exit in a sweep to... also first round exit, but maybe they win a couple.
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Because they’re still trying to win with LaVine and DeRozan. Why did the Twolves trade their future for Gobert? Dumb GMs do dumb GM things.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I ask again: why does Chicago do that? It vaults them from first round exit in a sweep to... also first round exit, but maybe they win a couple.
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Ball/Lavine/Derozan/Vucevic were 1st in the east in 21-22 before Ball got hurt. If Chicago thinks they can recapture that by replacing Ball with Holiday, maybe they make that deal.
 
Jeesh, here we are almost 2 years later and they still haven't resolved the JHNEC.
 
Totally different subject today, Jrue is in a different stage of his career and Blazers are in a different spot of building a team.

I'm really excited for Jrue this next season, he's always been one of my favorite guards in the league. His two way play and team offense is so much better to watch than the ISO ball of Dame/CJ/Melo/Ant that we've had for the last dozen years. I think Jrue will defer to Scoot just fine when they share the court and be a much better duo than Ant+Scoot.

Yeah I expect I'm really going to hate having Jrue and Grant contracts on our cap in 2028 - but really nothing I can do about that. Just hoping we either dump Ayton or let him walk in the summer, an extension would be horrible. Once the cap hits $200 million the contracts wont seem debilitating - the rest of our cap sheet is very clean. Still this isn't the optimal way to build a roster long term.
 
In these old threads, I find that I always agree with the Pinwheel1 guy.

As for now, two years later, I love having him on the team, I just don't like his contract. I would still move him if we could get a late FRP and a shorter contract.

However, if we do keep him, I think he could start this year and move to the bench after that. The guy already has two rings and has been paid. At his age, he won't have a problem coming off the bench. Coaches are important to the development of young players, but having another voice in the ear of Scoot and Shae from a player with his resume can only help.

 
It’s kind of crazy to think that he’s a two time All-Star with 10 years between his two appearances. Not sure that’s ever been replicated.
 
Not sure about the scoring, but this would be a helluva defensive group for end of quarter/end of game possessions when a stop is needed. ChatGPT doesn't quite get them right, but you get the idea.

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TBpup said:
Not sure about the scoring, but this would be a helluva defensive group for end of quarter/end of game possessions when a stop is needed. ChatGPT doesn't quite get them right, but you get the idea.

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Jesus, could AI get any creepier?
 
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